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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Jabo Plugs
« on: March 21, 2022, 03:34:42 PM »
I have some extra plugs that need to be potted. Will send priority USPS unless requested otherwise. Plants are mostly 4-5Ē tall. Price is for 4 plugs and includes shipping-

Reds     $40
Scarlets   $45
Campo Ramon $45
Grimal (6pack)   $65
Sabara (6pack) $40
Grumichama  $45
Ma Prang (2pack)  $40

Shoot me a PM if interested

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WANT TO BUY INGA LAURINA
« on: March 15, 2022, 08:21:11 AM »
Pete Kanaris Green Dreams has

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WANT TO BUY OLO SAPO
« on: March 15, 2022, 08:20:11 AM »
How old/how big you hoping for?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB bulk sabara seeds
« on: March 06, 2022, 11:04:05 PM »
I second Shiloh, got a bunch from him this year, very high germ rates

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado poll
« on: February 27, 2022, 03:24:21 AM »
Have you tried the Brogdon? Iíve heard good things. Iím looking for any cold hardy varieties (I guess pretty much all Mexican?) that taste ok or better...

I understand commercial and even small farm applications, but Iím curious as to why backyard growers donít cocktail more trees? Too unreliable? Uneven growth? I would like some zutano etc. blooms but I donít want to sacrifice an entire treeís space to have it, Iíd rather just have a couple branches.

Iím on your page Brad, prefer to grow hardy seedlings out and top work later, the problem is that weather is too unpredictable here in gulf Texas. Everything I got from you last month I topworked then we hit 26 for 4 hrs. I wrapped them up, maybe one bacon and one zutano made it... the rest are toast. By late March-April it will be way too hot. I prefer November grafts, I guess Iím going to have to cold frame and Macguyver heat for better success

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Micro Grafting tips, tricks and questions
« on: February 26, 2022, 09:04:48 AM »
I like to take the 18 or 25mm buddy tape and split longways. I also prefer non perforated so you are more in control of segment lengths. Itís not that much of an extra step. After splitting tape longways, somewhere in the neighborhood of 10mm width, the smaller unions are easier to make a good seal and wind the union without the excess overlap getting in the way. Iím also having a lot of success wrapping 2ft+ lengths, new growth has been coming first on the tips of the long branches I normally would have cut off, then the entire branch is filling out. Once the diameter gets too small on down the scion, I use same tape method splitting longways. You have to stretch the tape a lot though and try not to overlap too much, so tip shoots are strong enough to poke through.

As an elk and deer guide I used to use knives called Havalon. They have removable blades. There are many different styles. I use the stag with 60A stainless steel blades. They were invented by a surgeon. Each blade comes sterilized individually in a foil pack and is scalpel sharp. You have to be very careful changing blades until comfortable. I highly recommend.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Queen Natal Pineapple Slips/Suckers
« on: February 24, 2022, 04:05:24 AM »
Received some great looking plants. Thanks for the extra slips!

Another fast delivery from FL native. Thanks again Frank!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lara farms = awesome
« on: February 24, 2022, 03:37:36 AM »
Great seller, very healthy plants and great variety of selections all around. Highly recommended

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 16, 2022, 11:04:04 PM »
Driftwood- traveling the world and finding fruit might be a business. I work with my hands for a living. Thereís no comparison. Iím not degrading anyone. Doesnít change my feelings that trying to recoup $2800 off 3 fruits is a lot of money. Maybe it costs $2800 to travel to find the 3 fruits. Maybe thatís a fair price to pay for the amount of seeds offered, and itís justified by how rare they are. And maybe it was very difficult. But thereís no way it took the time or effort it takes me, and many other people to make $2800. Also, I was commenting directly to a prior response. I agree the work is important. And yes rare seeds in general are expensive. Itís a choice to set these prices though and I still think itís expecting alot for people to cover that much of the expeditions. That being said, I realize that itís a lot to guarantee anything, and thereís a cost to that, so respect. Also, I wished him luck with the sales. And I genuinely mean it

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 16, 2022, 06:40:15 PM »
I mentioned that some of us work for a living driftwood, was not stereotyping. Im sorry you took offense to that. I was responding to comments comparing seed hunting to other occupations. I do this as a hobby. Iíve spend thousands of dollars trying to participate in preservation, and if someone wants to make it into a business, thatís fine. Iím not here to judge and Iím not here to compete. I just made an observation. I was not asking for discounts, simply stating for annona seeds I thought the price was high, too high for me to care to participate. If someone doesnít like that, fine. Maybe I was out of line. We all feed off of each other here. I respect everyoneís point that thereís no one else offering these, and agree itís hard to put a price on rare offerings. And Seeds Hunter... Iím not hating. I respect the species count for sure, and the fact you are out there finding these selections. We are all here doing mother natureís work. And traveling to find selections is a very high level of dedication. Respect. At the end of the day though, they are all truly mother natureís creations, and I do not believe any man should profit too highly from them. That said I know there are costs associated. I own a business, and I understand. Itís a free market. Good luck selling the seeds.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 12, 2022, 03:33:30 PM »
I agree JCorte, and apologies if anyone is offended. If someone is willing to pay those prices more power to them. I wasnít trying to tank his post or any sales, just stating my opinion. People might think Iím out of place and thatís fine. I come here to share with people, and it doesnít change the facts or my feelings that some people prefer to prioritize money over actual preservation. Itís just my opinion based on limited facts. And anyone is free to comment. I personally spend a lot of money preserving all type of stuff and donít try to make a dime

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 12, 2022, 01:16:35 PM »
Also I think people are conflating what people grow on their farm and sell, vs someone that ďfoundĒ something traveling. I know itís work but it doesnít compare to what I do for a living to be able to grow and collect rare plants. My money is well earned and well spent. Iíve invested $1000ís just this season, from people I thought were very fair. And will continue to do so.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 12, 2022, 01:14:21 PM »
Maybe scions or a tree is worth that much. In my opinion annonas are too untrue and itís like selling expensive lottery tickets. Also you can find normal salzmanii seeds much cheaper. So the mother fruit may be rare but itís not like you could even know what youíre getting out of the seeds.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 12, 2022, 12:57:06 PM »
Just because no one else has them, does not mean a fruit should be worth $1000 after someone got to eat it. Its not that Iím not willing to travel there, itís just that Iím not willing to pay that price for such a big gamble. Itís simple business. Also Iím not blasting him. I responded to comments. I value my time and this forum, and if someone is going to try to sell something here, itís not blasting anyone to say if we think itís too high of a price. Itís just how some of us feel. And this isnít a personal website. If you try to make a sale here you are subject to criticism and comment. Regardless of enthusiasm or ability to afford anything, many of us just donít think itís truly in the spirit of preservation. And itís simple business not to buy. That being said maybe making known how we feel will at least start a conversation

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 12, 2022, 09:47:13 AM »
Also I donít know of the laws, and maybe itís not possible to do so and cross borders... but it seems to me the best way of actually preserving a specific variety is to graft budwood onto potted or preserved rootstock, wherever possible. Maybe you are already doing that. It would not be so much of a risk for us though if we were able to purchase scions or trees, and I think higher prices would be justified..

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 12, 2022, 09:32:43 AM »
I would love to participate in your social structure. And I would love to establish almost all species you have. If the prices came down a little I would be able to do that. I donít know when that will be possible, but those are my thoughts. We are all busy, and we all have overhead in our gardens and in our businesses, and we make sacrifices to do this. Itís all for the same cause. Peace, and respect

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 12, 2022, 09:21:13 AM »
I very much applaud your preservation efforts. I never said anyone is forcing anyone to participate. Itís a public sale forum. No one is asking you to respond to my comments. I understand there is a cost structure. And I understand the challenges. Every single one of us has a cost structure in our own lives. And every single person here makes investments of their own time and money to preserve rare species. My main point is that you cannot try to recoup 100% of your investment every time and say itís in the name of species preservation. We all pay a lot for species preservation. People have to make investments to do this. Difference is some of us work hard to make our money and donít get to travel and eat $1000 fruits. Everyone very much appreciates your efforts for preservation, but if you were willing to spend a little of your own money in the name of preservation and meet us in the middle, or find better ways to make things more affordable, I think more species would actually be preserved. I know it is not easy. I am in no way judging anyone, Iím mostly commenting on how I spend my own money. And Iím sure they were expensive to obtain, but youíre asking 75 euro for 10% of a fruits seeds that you have 3 of. You donít know how they were pollinated, if they come true to type, or if they will even grow well in the US. To some of us thatís not a risk worth taking, and itís not a judgment of you personally more of your business practices. Itís just too much money for many of us growers to actually establish, though the vast majority would love to

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When it's time ......
« on: February 12, 2022, 07:57:21 AM »
Rather than pull the Fuerte, have you considering too working? Can cut the tree down pretty far to remove spindle effect, then graft to the new shoots. Might be too late for this spring? I always like to graft another type of two on. Sure it might grow funny, nothing a little pruning canít fix. Always seems to help in fruit production though

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: grumichama flowering early this year
« on: February 12, 2022, 07:53:35 AM »
Do the leaves get the taco effect and start looking bad in full sun? I have mine in mostly shade and itís really pretty but doesnít set much fruit. Been considering acclimating to sunnier location

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 12, 2022, 07:37:20 AM »
A little fairness goes a long way. If they were 10 seeds for 75, I would have already made the purchase and then gone to the website to see what I can add to the order. Iím sure youíd like to recoup all of your travel expenses, but those of us that work for a living arenít gonna pay for you to traverse the globe in the name of ďpreservationĒ and have us pick up the entire tab. Weíre all grateful that you are passionate about collecting and sharing, but I think you would get a lot more business if you were a little more reasonable, and it would allow many more people to grow and preserve these rare species. It seems to me like a couple sellers here have the money prioritized above species preservation.

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