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-lychee
-Longan
-Sapodilla
-'Dream' atemoya
-Macadamia
-Lemon Guava

None of these will survive 22 degrees. Most of them will not survive 30 degrees. Not sure on the others as I have not tried them myself. I dont think almonds particularly like cold weather either.

Curious why pecans wont do well, the temperature is perfect on the cold side. I know the groves in GA regularly get down to the lower 20s and teens. I lived in GA for a time near the groves areas. Is it the lack of 90+ degree weather?

I've read several places that Lemon Guava at least are hardy to 22F https://www.tradewindsfruit.com/content/yellow-strawberry-guava.htm

At least I'll have pineapple guava for sure!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Requesting tips for germinating Spondias seeds
« Last post by sooperken on September 29, 2023, 12:33:11 AM »
Hello fruit experts...

I've tried some techniques for germinating SPONDIAS:  pre-soaking, sand papering the seeds (I read an article online), heat pads, humidity domes, sunlight, etc.
Airy potting mix with perlite and vermiculite... also tried the seed on top of the soil, covered with perlite.
I have had no success... I thought maybe all the Spondias seeds on Tradewinds were old and unviable; but I also purchased seeds from other sources and had similar results.

How many months should I wait for germination, before disposing of the seeds?
It's difficult to tell if they are alive or rotten, since they are so woody & dense.

Can anybody offer up suggestions or tips for germinating SPONDIAS?

Much appreciated!
-sooperKEN 

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I think people make up trade names for these varieties when they sell them in English speaking markets. I would just keep the original name to avoid future confusion.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge bunch of Goldfinger bananas
« Last post by hammer524 on September 28, 2023, 11:25:19 PM »
Hammer, my growing conditions are very different than yours. I don’t know what would grow or taste best in your intense heat. Here in my very mild coastal SoCal conditions I really like Goldfinger, Dwarf Brazilian and Mysore. I have yet to try my Dwarf Red, Gros Michel or Raja Puri.

Bill

Guess ill have to try it out for myself :) I'm leaning towards the Gros Michel or the dwarf variety of it "highland" for the novelty of it being the past commercial banana.
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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona deceptrix for sale
« Last post by Nick C on September 28, 2023, 11:19:33 PM »
Nick,

Is it known wheter this species is self-fertile or . . . ?

I'm sure it's unlikely, but is there any sense of this species' cold tolerance?

And lastly, what does it taste like?

Trying to decide if I want to try one of these.

Paul M.
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Honestly not too much information out there on this one. I would believe it to be self fertile but don’t quote me on that. There’s an older thread on here in regards to deceptrix and it’s says it was found 1600 ft above sea level and tastes similar to soursop


Grafted temoylata added

nice looking graft! is that 47-18?

Thanks Mike, I think temoylata is interchangeable with 47-18 and red geffner or do I have that wrong ?

I may be wrong but I believe a temoylata is any atemoya x reticulata not just specific to 47-18…

4-5 was a temoylata too I think..Priestly atemoya x  Fairchild Purple reticulata…Maybe Har could confirm.

ahh gotcha interested to see what that other variety looks like, sounds like it would look pretty cool
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pawpaws (fruit) for sale and/or to ship . . . .
« Last post by SHV on September 28, 2023, 10:54:47 PM »
Just tried my first pawpaw and was wholly unimpressed.  Very seedy, with a decent flavor, but a little bitterness on the backend. I have several more and will let them ripen further with hopes that they improve the softer they get. 
Even if they lose the weird aftertaste, it’s still not a top tier or even mid-tier fruit.  Good idea to try before you buy this North American overhyped delight.
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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles - Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Some plants for sale
« Last post by roblack on September 28, 2023, 10:48:49 PM »
Box 3 arrived today. Again, everything is looking great, sugar canes are popping some roots. Thank you D, your family nursery rocks!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge bunch of Goldfinger bananas
« Last post by BestDay on September 28, 2023, 10:15:10 PM »
Hammer, my growing conditions are very different than yours. I don’t know what would grow or taste best in your intense heat. Here in my very mild coastal SoCal conditions I really like Goldfinger, Dwarf Brazilian and Mysore. I have yet to try my Dwarf Red, Gros Michel or Raja Puri.

Bill
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge bunch of Goldfinger bananas
« Last post by BestDay on September 28, 2023, 10:11:09 PM »
I fertilize with a lot of different fertilizers. But the main one that I use on bananas is the vigoro 6-4-6. I add some extra potassium to make it 6-4-9.

Bill
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Other than avocados, I've got 4 loquat seedlings a few years old, tallest about 5' tall, a couple feijoa bushes that flowered this year but the fruit never developed (hoping for better luck in future years since this was their first), two Helen's hybrid banana seedlings on their third year regrowing from the corm after melting at first frost, a highly productive Luma apiculata bush, two small guabiju seedlings on their third year in the ground, a handful of first-year Texas persimmon seedlings about to face their first Seattle winter, some maypop vines barely clinging to life after 2 years (they seem to hate the dry season, hate the cool spring and fall, and get devoured by slugs and snails most of the year), an Oregon Curlfree peach tree on its second year since bareroot (minimal PLC but didn't set fruit on the handful of flowers this year), two honeyberries on their second year (very productive for their small size, they love the drizzle and cool spring, I can't wait until they get big), a Dunstan citrumelo that went in the ground on its own roots this summer, a trifoliate seedling on its second year in the ground, a yuzu seedling on its first year in the ground after it thrived in its pot in my relatively cool greenhouse last winter, three grafted pawpaws that have grown very slowly in two years, a bunch of different figs I rooted last year that didn't set any fruit this year but should start next year, a few mulberries, including two different Morus nigra cultivars I grafted this summer, one small Psidium longipetiolatum seedling that has been killed to ground twice but keeps sprouting back, and I'm sure I'm forgetting something.


Damn! I didn't know about so many of these! I'm going to be doing more research, look forward to hearing how they do for you going forward.

According literature black sapote is not cold tolerant, "young trees are damaged or killed at or below 30°F (-1°C) and mature trees at or below 28°F (-2°C)", BUT if you have winters like mine, mean January and February 40-45°F, lowest some years just a 2-3 days 30°F, but once in 5-7 years drop for a couple of days to 22-23°F, it goes dormant and don't suffer from cold. I noticed this in BS their first winter in greenhouse, knew from literature that they are not hardy, but they are very vigorous, my greenhouse is only 350 feet square meters, so I took a risk and put 3 of 5 in ground in spring, they were happy and last year I moved others outside. This February we had severe frezee down to 22°F ,  my 3 years seedlings behaved like deciduous, lost all the leaves and became dormant like cherries, apples, no damage at all, even for small branches, while my avocados and some citrus were killed to the ground. I can even add, they all flowered this spring, but unfortunately, didn't fruited ( I read first year it's normal). I think this numbers are right for, say, Florida, where they stay evergreen and I suggest, the cold hardy apples, plums would be damaged if cold is applied during summer.
I agree with drymyfolia about loquat ( damage temperature for flower), mine had good crop this year after exposing to 22°F. Would advise you to think about grafting it to quince to improve cold, heat and drought resistance.
I also recently started with most of plants mentioned here,  so still evaluating their hardiness. Have to put my grafted cherimoyas next spring in ground, they are too big now.
Date palm doing fine here, my oldest 5 years seedling ( 3 years outside) flowered this year ( unfortunately male-)), just take it inside first 2 years or cover if outside. I just started with coquito this year but it supposedly  hardy enough for my zone.


Really really gotta try the black sapote now. You've made me very interested in growing them. Cherimoyas are some of my favorite fruits, I didn't know they could handle so much cold! Coquito sounds really interesting to me as well, I'm going to do a lot of research. Thanks!
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