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First taste of mangosteen
« on: May 19, 2014, 09:28:36 PM »
Yummmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!! Super tasty!!!! So no grow in SoCal right? It would be too good to be true.



I noticed as well that the mangosteens I am eating have no seeds is that common?

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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2014, 11:06:03 PM »
Why must you tease us like that??

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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2014, 11:32:45 PM »
Congrats Osito! very nice photos, where did you got the fruit or plant?
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2014, 12:14:51 AM »
Well let's put it this way, nobody so far has been succesful in getting mangosteen to fruit in Southern California. It's even very difficult to get them to fruit in S. Florida. Right now i'm on a mangosteen diet...eating loads of them has had a bumper crop for first time. Will try to post photos in another thread.
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2014, 06:19:01 AM »
Well let's put it this way, nobody so far has been succesful in getting mangosteen to fruit in Southern California. It's even very difficult to get them to fruit in S. Florida. Right now i'm on a mangosteen diet...eating loads of them has had a bumper crop for first time. Will try to post photos in another thread.
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2014, 09:12:13 AM »
Well let's put it this way, nobody so far has been succesful in getting mangosteen to fruit in Southern California. It's even very difficult to get them to fruit in S. Florida. Right now i'm on a mangosteen diet...eating loads of them has had a bumper crop for first time. Will try to post photos in another thread.

Hi, why is so difficult to fruit mangosteen there?
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2014, 08:19:45 PM »
Mangosteens will fruit in South Florida, not easily but it can be done. Like in most places, it takes years for them to fruit. I have seen a few fruiting outdoors including one next to a saltwater canal in north Broward county. The trick is that they were grown in transplanted acid soils. They will not grow in the local alkaline soils and are cold sensitive especially small trees. They have also fruited here in pots grown outdoors but need to be  protected in the winter. It's a great project tree for the dedicated hobby grower and you will have bragging rights when you do fruit one.
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2014, 12:59:29 AM »
Tried my first Mangosteen from Seafood city Asian Market today in San Diego....it was very good, but not $10.99 a pound good...a prepackaged bag came out to be 22.00 roughly...And in my opinion... this fruit does not even come close to a CA Cherimoya
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2014, 01:04:01 AM »
Well let's put it this way, nobody so far has been succesful in getting mangosteen to fruit in Southern California. It's even very difficult to get them to fruit in S. Florida. Right now i'm on a mangosteen diet...eating loads of them has had a bumper crop for first time. Will try to post photos in another thread.

Hi, why is so difficult to fruit mangosteen there?

Southern California: consistent winter temperatures below 50F (10C) and also super low relative humidity.
Florida: alkaline soils, periodic arctic blasts that kill them, and hurricane winds that shred them. It can be done by the ultra rich (Whitman) and the ultra dedicated (Grimal). Or in year round glasshouse (Fairchild Gardens).
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 01:07:08 AM »
Tried my first Mangosteen from Seafood city Asian Market today in San Diego....it was very good, but not $10.99 a pound good...a prepackaged bag came out to be 22.00 roughly...And in my opinion... this fruit does not even come close to a CA Cherimoya

I agree with you, not worth $11 a pound. But just keep in mind that what you tasted was probably picked several weeks ago in Thailand, irradiated, and then refrigerated for several weeks in transit and then upon arrival. Not gonna taste anything like right off the tree.
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2014, 10:05:47 AM »
I have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that a Mangosteen fresh off the tree is an incredible tasting fruit...I truly enjoyed the first one I had yesterday even though it probably fails in comparison to a fresh tree ripe Mangosteen by a Long shot....That being said.....Even if I pushed the flavor of the one I tryed yesterday to the maxium of greatness...It would still fall well short to the Glory of a CA Cherimoya AKA "The Fruit of the Gods"

Cherimoya is KING....there is no other fruit beside it, haven't tryed a top tier Mango yet, but I'm sure it falls short as well.
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2014, 10:15:28 AM »
Ummmmmm. ...chermoya is not king.  Durian.is THE KING.
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2014, 11:38:03 AM »
i can't speak on the behalve of Durian..I wonder if you can find that out here in Socal?
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2014, 11:49:11 AM »
i can't speak on the behalve of Durian..I wonder if you can find that out here in Socal?

Go to 99 ranch market they often have it frozen whole.

A football with spike that smells like poo and texture can be mushy but taste sweet. It's an acquired taste like  eating a unborn baby duck fetus / balut.

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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2014, 11:49:53 AM »
i can't speak on the behalve of Durian..I wonder if you can find that out here in Socal?

Go to 99 ranch market they often have it frozen whole fruit with spikes and all. And also fresh jackfruit.

A football with spike that smells like poo and texture can be mushy but taste sweet. It's an acquired taste like  eating a unborn baby duck fetus / balut.

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Feijoa is queen

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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2014, 12:10:40 PM »
Natural Green Thumb - you are delusional.   The durian you describe from the market is not a good comparison to make.  As a matter of fact, it's a poor comparison.   That fruit has been picked underripe, irradiated if from Thailand, and frozen for who knows how long.  If you were to try a ripe, fresh quality durian, tasted wigh an open mind, I can bet you would think different.

I wont even comment with respect to fejoia is Queen. 
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2014, 12:42:59 PM »
Mango and Cherimoya connoisseurs....FLARE UP....

Mangosteen and Durian are being labeled King
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2014, 12:48:39 PM »
Agree...while frozen durians can be okay at best, they are a very poor substitution for a fresh one.  Same with frozen mangosteen.  Don't get me wrong, a good cherimoya is hard to beat...until you travel to Florida during mango season.  Many of these mango varieties rank right up there with the best of all fruits.  Mangosteen and durian have been labeled queen and king of fruits for a long time now.  A label that has stuck for many reasons.  There are other fruit that I believe give them a run for their money...and it all depends upon which one is in front of me at the moment!

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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2014, 12:59:49 PM »
Agree...while frozen durians can be okay at best, they are a very poor substitution for a fresh one.  Same with frozen mangosteen.  Don't get me wrong, a good cherimoya is hard to beat...until you travel to Florida during mango season.  Many of these mango varieties rank right up there with the best of all fruits.  Mangosteen and durian have been labeled queen and king of fruits for a long time now.  A label that has stuck for many reasons.  There are other fruit that I believe give them a run for their money...and it all depends upon which one is in front of me at the moment!

I'm looking forward to trying some of these amazing Mango Varieties...I have several trees including LZ, CC, Carrie, Pickering, Miha Chanok, Pina Colada, Edward, Sweet Tart, Nam Doc Mai, and Malika. The trees may not grow as fast as they do in Florida, but I have a feeling the Rich Soil (once conditioned) and hot days/cool night produce some amazing Mangos out here... I should be able do some nice side by side comparisons from my Cherimoya trees and Mango trees one day to really judge.
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2014, 01:02:35 PM »
Next time we hit KL, Maylasia or Phukett, Thailand on a deployment....I will make sure I try this Durian and Mangosteen fresh at the market...I have feeling they won't let me on the ship with this stinky Durian.
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2014, 01:10:50 PM »
i can't speak on the behalve of Durian..I wonder if you can find that out here in Socal?

Go to 99 ranch market they often have it frozen whole fruit with spikes and all. And also fresh jackfruit.

A football with spike that smells like poo and texture can be mushy but taste sweet. It's an acquired taste like  eating a unborn baby duck fetus / balut.

Mangosteen is king
Feijoa is queen

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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2014, 01:19:53 PM »
I too agree that a prime fresh picked/ripened Florida mango is hard to beat.  Of course you might say the same for lychees as well...
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« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2014, 01:25:29 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2014, 01:31:44 PM »
Agree...while frozen durians can be okay at best, they are a very poor substitution for a fresh one.  Same with frozen mangosteen.  Don't get me wrong, a good cherimoya is hard to beat...until you travel to Florida during mango season.  Many of these mango varieties rank right up there with the best of all fruits.  Mangosteen and durian have been labeled queen and king of fruits for a long time now.  A label that has stuck for many reasons.  There are other fruit that I believe give them a run for their money...and it all depends upon which one is in front of me at the moment!

I'm looking forward to trying some of these amazing Mango Varieties...I have several trees including LZ (yes), CC (yes, when picked correctly), Carrie (meh), Pickering (NO), Miha Chanok (yes), Pina Colada (Soso), Edward (can be awesome, but...), Sweet Tart (yes), Nam Doc Mai (simple honey sweet flavor...but my wife loves it so I have it, luckily on dwarfing RS), and Malika (yes). The trees may not grow as fast as they do in Florida, but I have a feeling the Rich Soil (once conditioned) and hot days/cool night produce some amazing Mangos out here... I should be able do some nice side by side comparisons from my Cherimoya trees and Mango trees one day to really judge.

see bold above...will add Orange Sherbet, Taralay, Peach Cobbler aka Oh Too aka 0-2, Ugly Betty, Southern Blush, Amy (a Jakarta seedling which MIGHT be available at some point), Pineapple Pleasure, 33-10 aka Venus (especially being late season), Honey Kiss (must be picked with significant color), E-4, Cushman...I could keep going on but...

Oh, and in Florida, the best fruit is grown in that great soft sand, not a rich soil.
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2014, 01:35:19 PM »
Agree...while frozen durians can be okay at best, they are a very poor substitution for a fresh one.  Same with frozen mangosteen.  Don't get me wrong, a good cherimoya is hard to beat...until you travel to Florida during mango season.  Many of these mango varieties rank right up there with the best of all fruits.  Mangosteen and durian have been labeled queen and king of fruits for a long time now.  A label that has stuck for many reasons.  There are other fruit that I believe give them a run for their money...and it all depends upon which one is in front of me at the moment!

I'm looking forward to trying some of these amazing Mango Varieties...I have several trees including LZ (yes), CC (yes, when picked correctly), Carrie (meh), Pickering (NO), Miha Chanok (yes), Pina Colada (Soso), Edward (can be awesome, but...), Sweet Tart (yes), Nam Doc Mai (simple honey sweet flavor...but my wife loves it so I have it, luckily on dwarfing RS), and Malika (yes). The trees may not grow as fast as they do in Florida, but I have a feeling the Rich Soil (once conditioned) and hot days/cool night produce some amazing Mangos out here... I should be able do some nice side by side comparisons from my Cherimoya trees and Mango trees one day to really judge.

see bold above...will add Orange Sherbet, Taralay, Peach Cobbler aka Oh Too aka 0-2, Ugly Betty, Southern Blush, Amy (a Jakarta seedling which MIGHT be available at some point), Pineapple Pleasure, 33-10 aka Venus (especially being late season), Honey Kiss (must be picked with significant color), E-4, Cushman...I could keep going on but...

Oh, and in Florida, the best fruit is grown in that great soft sand, not a rich soil.


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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2014, 04:07:14 PM »
Had fresh durian ..ehhh... Grew up with sh1t smell in the house.
had fresh mangosteen as well.

Mangosteen is king
Feijoa is queen.

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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2014, 05:26:41 PM »
They are good but they aren't nearly as satisfying or filling as a durian or cempedek.

Seedless would be nice. Most of the ones I've had have seeds in them
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2014, 05:58:30 PM »
So many fruits, picked at their prime, right off your own tree at perfect ripeness, from rich soil, are king of fruits. That's why we're in this hobby right?  :D
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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2014, 06:27:39 PM »
So many fruits, picked at their prime, right off your own tree at perfect ripeness, from rich soil, are king of fruits. That's why we're in this hobby right?  :D


Good point oscar i'll submit to that

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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2014, 06:32:38 PM »
I think all these fruits can potentially be a "10" and i'd walk a mile for:
Lychee
Mango
Cherimoya
Durian
Pulasan
Longkong
And a bunch more i'm probably forgetting.
Funny thing about cherimoya is it's never made it to main stream marketing in USA. It certainly deserves it though.
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2014, 06:55:27 PM »
I think all these fruits can potentially be a "10" and i'd walk a mile for:
Lychee
Mango
Cherimoya
Durian
Pulasan
Longkong
And a bunch more i'm probably forgetting.
Funny thing about cherimoya is it's never made it to main stream marketing in USA. It certainly deserves it though.

Mangosteens are very good but not worth 22 euro a kg like here in Holland. And that's for very small ones.

Pedalai should taste like a mix of mangosteen and jakcfruit, i have to try that one day.

Jackfruit also sure belongs in the top 10.

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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2014, 09:04:22 PM »
I think all these fruits can potentially be a "10" and i'd walk a mile for:
Lychee
Mango
Cherimoya
Durian
Pulasan
Longkong
And a bunch more i'm probably forgetting.
Funny thing about cherimoya is it's never made it to main stream marketing in USA. It certainly deserves it though.


Never even heard of the word Cherimoya until I joined this forum....For that alone...I am greatful....had another Mangosteen today....It's growing on me...

Anyone out here in Socal had success in growing mangosteen?
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2014, 09:37:41 PM »
Mangosteens will fruit in South Florida ... I have seen a few fruiting outdoors including one next to a saltwater canal in north Broward county. 

I would very much like the address of this canal, please.  ;)

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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2014, 09:44:19 PM »
I tried my fast  mangosteen at the begging of this year, in Thailand , while I was there on business trip

We normally have them available locally in bayarea, but those are hard like rock and read in this forum that those are not good

I really like them , for me they have texture that melt in my mouth with slight rose scent , love it

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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2014, 10:01:34 PM »
I tried my fast  mangosteen at the begging of this year, in Thailand , while I was there on business trip

We normally have them available locally in bayarea, but those are hard like rock and read in this forum that those are not good

I really like them , for me they have texture that melt in my mouth with slight rose scent , love it

Some picks of the local market in Thailand










179 for ndm mango! 6 us$ a kg (2 big mango's) for a local mango grown in Thailand.

60 baht a kg for mangosteen is normal in a supermarket, in season on local market they are 20 baht a kg.

But what is a fast mangosteen?

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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2014, 06:58:39 AM »
Well let's put it this way, nobody so far has been succesful in getting mangosteen to fruit in Southern California. It's even very difficult to get them to fruit in S. Florida. Right now i'm on a mangosteen diet...eating loads of them has had a bumper crop for first time. Will try to post photos in another thread.
Please do!

OK, i posted some shots of mangosteen i just took. Combined it with an old thread. Just so you don't miss it here they are: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?action=post;topic=10054.0;last_msg=129300
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« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2014, 04:43:06 PM »
I stand corrected!!! out of my pre-packaged bag ($10.99lb) of Mangosteens....I just can't get enough of these things!!! Perfect blend of sweetness, texture, tartness, and slightly unique flavor....I'm in love!!! Not sure if it can beat a CA Cherimoya, but it's up there...

Now for the first time...I can't wait for my next WestPAC deployemnt to raid Thailand and Malaysian Fruit Markets for tree Ripe Mangosteen to maybe get a taste of what a real Mangosteen tastelike....that and I want to try this poo poo Durian
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Re: First taste of mangosteen
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2014, 06:17:17 PM »
Mangosteens will fruit in South Florida ... I have seen a few fruiting outdoors including one next to a saltwater canal in north Broward county. 

I would very much like the address of this canal, please.  ;)

Sadly most of the trees and the house were leveled to construct a new mini mansion on the property. The owner offered the tree for sale for $1000 and did not find a buyer. I did get a photo of the it and it was hard to believe but it was a fruiting tree about 12 feet tall and 10 feet around. I have been trying for a long time to find the guy who planted it to get the whole story but have not been successful.   

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