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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #100 on: November 12, 2014, 03:44:37 PM »
Luis, are you growing lucuma?
Now i have!!! I just buy a lucuma de seda "Molina 4" tree!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D and a canistel tree too!!!  ;)

Luis, vai dar certo! Lucuma producing heavy loads of fruit in Oliveira da Azemis(terra da Fanny, para voc ver!  ;D )...so lucuma will grow well by you.  ;)
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #101 on: November 12, 2014, 04:26:03 PM »
Luis, are you growing lucuma?
Now i have!!! I just buy a lucuma de seda "Molina 4" tree!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D and a canistel tree too!!!  ;)

Luis, vai dar certo! Lucuma producing heavy loads of fruit in Oliveira da Azemis(terra da Fanny, para voc ver!  ;D )...so lucuma will grow well by you.  ;)
Thank God! It's a great tree!  ;D

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #102 on: November 12, 2014, 10:49:04 PM »
Interesting!
http://www.cbd.int/abs/side-events/icnp2/twn-icnp2-no4-Lucuma-Peru.pdf

This type of move by a corporation or university wanting to own rights to a fruit, in this case lucuma, happens very often. And that is why countries have clamped down on what they call biopiracy. Similar thing happened in Brazil, with a Japanese company wanting to trademark cupuacu fruit. Also in Malaysia corporations went in to "study" and then use forest products as patented ingredients in pharmaceuticals. Now both Brazil and Malaysia have some of the strictest rules about removing any plant products from their countries. What these corporations do has a very negative side effects on us gardeners and seed savers.

Those country's have the full right to sell the plants to who-ever they like. They don't care at all for slandering seedsellers from the USA who think they rule the fruitmarket. In fact they also want the world to see their fruits  grown to full size, not the midgets that are produced on Hawaii.

People with connections will get those seeds anyway.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #103 on: June 27, 2015, 07:34:24 PM »
Great , I hope my tree will produce one day , not holding my breath...maybe too hot here...

Hey Luc,

u know there's a few varieties..and one that is supposed to be better for the lowlands....I wonder what type u have??

I want the one that's for the low lands...and it was sacred because of the gold color of the skin.

here is a quote from my post about this earlier on the forum

If you can, locate the sacred lucuma, that grows in the low lands...the incas worship gold, and this lucuma has a gold color...it can be grown at lower elevations, and should be suitable for FL.

I think its called Lucuma de seda.
 here is a link...get me some seeds or scions now!

good luck...i don't think lucuma seeds are good to pass through your system! LOL better get permits.
http://www.ocfruit.com/files/LUCUMA.htm

Adam, did you ever find the lowland variety?

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« Reply #104 on: July 26, 2015, 10:01:09 AM »
Pouteria lucuma how nay years into production?

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« Reply #105 on: January 08, 2018, 05:10:33 PM »
So, a friend from Peru just told me that I'm not allowed to leave lucuma off my cultivation list.  ;)  I've been finding mixed info online about lucuma cultivation - specifically about humidity.  Does it require high humidity or not?  Or is there a difference between highland/lowland versions and/or moist/dry varieties?
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #106 on: January 08, 2018, 09:52:30 PM »
Pouteria lucuma how nay years into production?


Here in Taiwan probably 3-4 years, its a pretty easy thing to grow here.  My trees are left abandoned at my old farm covered in morning glory so no longer produce as far as i know haha.  but they are kind of a leave it and grow like mango as far as i have seen.  canistel the same.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #107 on: December 15, 2018, 01:30:15 AM »

 is there a difference between highland/lowland versions and/or moist/dry varieties?
[/quote]  Dry types are for processing. Moist can be eaten as dessert fruit. Grows and produces well in warm wet humid subtropics. Pest free after decades  BUT is intolerant of shade
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« Reply #108 on: December 15, 2018, 07:39:27 AM »
Ive got seedlings of molina, montalban, an unnamed moist type as well as seedlings of dry types, not sure if any are yellow skinned though.

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« Reply #109 on: January 22, 2020, 11:39:20 PM »
Tim kindly gave me a couple of the seeds from the original post, which I planted. Both grew well and just recently I noticed a fruit set on one!


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« Reply #110 on: January 23, 2020, 05:17:11 AM »
Tim kindly gave me a couple of the seeds from the original post, which I planted. Both grew well and just recently I noticed a fruit set on one!


Wow that is amazing! So it fruits only in 5-6 years from seed? its great.

Question;
I have 2 lucuma plants in pots around 5ft tall. I am planing to plant them in the first days of March. Do you have any recommendations regarding the location? Full sun (  max summer temps 104F maybe only for one week ) or semi shade (in a small forest i have) with full sun only for 6-7 hours each day? Also this winter we had min temp 29F and night temps near 32F for 10 days in a row. Could it suceed?
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« Reply #111 on: January 25, 2020, 12:32:36 AM »
Heya Daniel! Any ideas on the mini miracle of this fruit set and how it may have been pollinated?

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #112 on: January 25, 2020, 04:47:32 AM »
Tim kindly gave me a couple of the seeds from the original post, which I planted. Both grew well and just recently I noticed a fruit set on one!


Wow that is amazing! So it fruits only in 5-6 years from seed? its great.

Question;
I have 2 lucuma plants in pots around 5ft tall. I am planing to plant them in the first days of March. Do you have any recommendations regarding the location? Full sun (  max summer temps 104F maybe only for one week ) or semi shade (in a small forest i have) with full sun only for 6-7 hours each day? Also this winter we had min temp 29F and night temps near 32F for 10 days in a row. Could it suceed?
Thanks!

Hey there! It should do okay in part shade. Mine are partially shaded and they don't seem to kind the cold much! It would definitely be worth planting in ground!

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #113 on: January 25, 2020, 04:52:31 AM »
Heya Daniel! Any ideas on the mini miracle of this fruit set and how it may have been pollinated?

Heyo Jonah!

So this is the only one I've seen so far (but I haven't taken a real thorough look yet)  this is gonna sound weird but I had a "premenision" there was going to be a fruit, I went and looked and saw this!

As far as pollination, I tried  squeezing the flowers as recommended for pouteria  but that didn't work yet. This one was high up on the plant where I couldn't reach so it must have been pollinated some other way!

Also the Lisa atemoya I got from youbis fruiting this year. Can't wait to try it!


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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #114 on: February 17, 2020, 01:49:47 PM »
Lucuma definitely prefer full sun to fruit
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #115 on: February 18, 2020, 06:48:14 AM »
Damn......mine is growing in half shade  :-\
4ft high...do you reckon I should move it?

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #116 on: February 23, 2022, 05:02:23 PM »
I've been travelling through South America for some time, passing also through Peru, Ecuador and Colombia.
In Peru and Ecuador I've eaten Lucuma several times without knowing anything about the two types ("lowland" and "highland"). I've had good ones and bad ones. The fruit that was most similar in taste to me was the macauba or bocaiuva palm fruit (Acrocomia aculeata) while being totally different in texture.

When arriving at the hot and moist tropical coast of Colombia I got to know the "Zapote costeo", the Mamey Sapote. There I heard that people graft Lucuma scions to Mamey Sapote rootstock to adapt it to the hot and moist climate. Does anyone have experience with that?
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« Reply #117 on: February 23, 2022, 10:09:30 PM »
What were the good ones and bad ones like? Are the differences mainly textural or taste?  Thank you!

Sounds interesting that they are grafting onto Mamey but seems like something that would be done in Florida.  I know a lot of people graft Green Sapote (Pouteria viridis) and Ross Sapote (Pouteria sp.) onto Mamey out in Florida.   I am going to try and graft a bunch of different Pouteria spp. onto Lucuma to try and increase cold hardiness and highland temperatures/climate.
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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #118 on: February 23, 2022, 11:40:02 PM »
I chuck my two lucuma two years ago.  I got the trees from san diego CRFG.  The fruits were so dry compare to canistel.  The plants are very nice though.

Last year, I also chuck my canistel because it did not fruit for the last decade.  Just flowers.

My green sapote fruits are too sweet and salty.  Yes, salty fruit.  More moist than canistel.  Way too cold sensitive.  All the air layer died on the tree except two.  Now only one air layer is survived with difficulty.   The mother tree is not doing well as well.

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« Reply #119 on: February 24, 2022, 12:03:23 AM »
How long does lucuma take to fruit from seed?  I have a couple seedlings I got on a whim, I wonder if they are a decade-long commitment.  I already have a grafted canistel so I wonder if seedling pouteria is worth the wait.  I got a Ross Sapote also that is plenty healthy but might not fruit for a long time.

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Re: Pouteria lucuma
« Reply #120 on: February 24, 2022, 12:31:04 AM »
lucuma seedling about 7 years.

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« Reply #121 on: February 24, 2022, 10:46:07 AM »
@nattyfroootz: Some were sweeter and had a more aromatic taste, others were more or less tasteless. All of them were on the dry side, like really hard boiled egg yolk - but still with some minor variations. This "dryness" didn't bother me though - I rather thought it to be interesting in comparison with all the other fruit varieties I had in South America.

I learned that you need to let Lucuma wrinkle on the outside before you eat it.

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« Reply #122 on: February 24, 2022, 11:27:46 AM »
Thanks for the info on your experiences!  That's interesting to hear about the dry firm texture. Do you think that the fruits may have been picked early?  I've definitely noticed some Pouteria spp. need to be picked at proper ripeness and can vary dramatically in texture if not done so. 
I have spoken with another forum member who is living in Peru and he mentioned that in the past couple years Lucuma is abundant in most markets and has become more of an agricultural commodity.  I wonder if many of the trees are grafted or if they are breeding and creating cultivars.

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« Reply #123 on: February 24, 2022, 01:21:40 PM »
Maybe the tasteless ones are a poor cultivar or have been picked early. But I find it hard to imagine how an unripe Lucuma would taste like. No lucuma had a "green" taste, if you know what I mean. The texture was a little creamier in some of the Lucumas what didn't appear to be a difference in ripeness.

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« Reply #124 on: February 24, 2022, 01:30:55 PM »
lucuma seedling about 7 years.

thank you


When I tried canistel for the first and only time I bought two fruits.  The first was very dry and chalky, the second I let sit a few more days and was one of the tastiest fruits I'd ever eaten.  Not sure if the fruit is variable, but I suspect it really is the ripeness.
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