Sorry guys i didnt want to start arguments on here was just venting frustration on my observations as someone new to the fruit world. Im sure i will get there in the end. I certainly will make a trip down to mission beach to try that fruit tour that sounds fantastic. I managed to pick up an achacha tree the other day so that was a cool find I have never tasted the fruit so a bit of a gamble but supposedly similar to mangosteen? I found mangosteen to be nice but certainly overated not comparable to rambutan or lychee but I have 2 x mangosteen trees planted anyway.