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Is anyone working on a wider range of Annona Hybrids?
« on: May 03, 2022, 08:39:34 AM »
such as A.spinescens hybrids, tomentosa, salzmannii, etc?
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Re: Is anyone working on a wider range of Annona Hybrids?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2022, 11:03:51 AM »
depends on what peoples definition of hybrid is as opposed to crossbreeds
pawpaw cross breeds within Asimina triloba  x asimina triloba

also of if you mean Annona species or
 Annonaceae family species
or Anonna species with other species (like Annona with Rollinia ) intergeneric hybrid (of  species)
but not certain how usual for  species  to cross genera in that  family rare from so far of what I read online.?



I do not have flowering florida asimina species
there could be crosses or not if unsuccessful pollination  ,
 but no way to protect the seeds yet.


Just kidding on top secret
but not a Annona species
I just took a hour getting the rose / apple family pollen , but it was raining last night.

Juneberry (or Alelanchier ) is a berry that taste like blueberry
there have been natural crosses out west known of for 100 years with mountain ash ( sorbus )  (rowen berry in Europe)

x amelasorbus  (The x in front of hybrid tells it is a hybrid of two different genera of plants
 (a + in between is a graft hybrid (like in a chimera  citrus)

I wonder if Annona has any  unknown chimera (or also known as  graft hybrids .)
I've looked but have not found
(maybe some hybrids or other strange stuff exist right in front of peoples faces it appears that even happens in front of researches ,
 but that's another topic. )




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Re: Is anyone working on a wider range of Annona Hybrids?
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2022, 11:13:30 AM »
depends on what peoples definition of hybrid is as opposed to crossbreeds
pawpaw cross breeds within Asimina triloba  x asimina triloba

this is just what I call plants cross breed when same species

I am not the best with all terminology

intraspecific hybridization like a horse is Equus with a Donkey also Equus (but different species (makes sterile offspring or mule )



I know some people call crossing 2 species of the same pawpaw cultivar
 (asimina triloba x asimina triloba a hybrid, but me personally I prefer crossbreed)
on the other hand a Pawpaw Asimina triloba x Asimina parviflora
(I would call intraspecific hybridization or just Hybrid )

Like the Horse x donkey is listed  -- (but a horse, and horse I would not say hybrid some people do though with plants)
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Re: Is anyone working on a wider range of Annona Hybrids?
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2022, 11:23:20 AM »
Sorry for long winded opinion


So what is your interest
#1  any crossing?

#2 Improving a existing  species by cultivars ?

#3 going out side the species Annona x rollinia (or attempting  -- best to try in Apple of  Rosaceae family)


Hey if the plant takes a male , and female to produce (dioecious )
 any seed you plant will be a cross breed  ( open pollinated .)

(people do that with female grapes (well I have some seeds at least from breeder )

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Re: Is anyone working on a wider range of Annona Hybrids?
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2022, 12:37:17 PM »
I think there's been hybrids of soursop and rollinia, but I'm not sure about that.
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Re: Is anyone working on a wider range of Annona Hybrids?
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2022, 02:07:26 PM »

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Re: Is anyone working on a wider range of Annona Hybrids?
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2022, 02:31:48 PM »
I think there's been hybrids of soursop and rollinia, but I'm not sure about that.


It's from Puerto Rico called Guanón.

It's supposed to be sold at "Govardhan Gardens" but his farm was destroyed by a storm some years ago. Idk if it's selling now.
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Re: Is anyone working on a wider range of Annona Hybrids?
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2022, 05:37:16 PM »
I know one of the guys I follow on Instagram is doing tons of hybrids. I think he was part of California rare fruit growers or something. I don’t know if he’s on here tho. Ryan Scion.
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Re: Is anyone working on a wider range of Annona Hybrids?
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2022, 01:21:31 PM »
I think there's been hybrids of soursop and rollinia, but I'm not sure about that.


It's from Puerto Rico called Guanón.

It's supposed to be sold at "Govardhan Gardens" but his farm was destroyed by a storm some years ago. Idk if it's selling now.
http://www.organicfarm.net/seeds.htm

It seems they’ve managed to secure the Guanón! I’d have to wait until I’m ready for lots of new species before I buy seeds, minimum orders, plus international shipping is just out of my way right now, also would need to find if they’re actively selling now.
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