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Hall Avocado
« on: July 30, 2022, 12:21:41 PM »
Are any members growing the Hall avocado?  Can you tell me about its ripening dates, productivity, and flavor?  Also, growth characteristics?  Would it be along the same lines as Simmonds, Choquette, or Monroe as far as oil content and flavor?  Or perhaps a little denser (drier) and more flavorful like Lula?  Anything else you can tell me about this variety and whether it's worth growing?  I'm looking for something that starts ripening in the fall a couple months before Monroe kicks in.  Thank you, friends.  Even if you tasted it and didn't like it, let me know.  I know it's one of the "SlimCados."  God, I hate that name!
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Re: Hall Avocado
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2022, 07:31:20 PM »
Carlos knows. ;)  While I'm at it, Simmonds, Pollock, or Dupuis?  Which is the best summer avocado?  By a whole lot, or just marginally?  Carlos has said that Dupuis is fussy, so would Monroe pollinate it?
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Re: Hall Avocado
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2022, 08:36:50 PM »
More oil content and drier. Antracnosis hit it hard

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Re: Hall Avocado
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2022, 11:41:56 PM »
More oil content and drier. Antracnosis hit it hard
So maybe it's disease-prone?  Can you suggest a variety, canito, for fall ripening in South Florida, other than Lula?  Also, looking forward to seeing your varieties in the not-too-distant future!
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Re: Hall Avocado
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2022, 11:04:43 AM »
John, this is all I could find on Hall :HALL   Florida Originated on place of Willis Hall, Miami as seedling of unknown origin. Tree heavy bearing & hardy. Fruit season, Nov., Dec.; color, dk. green; weight 20- 30 ozs.; shape, pyriform; skin, smooth, thick; quality, fine; oil, 12-16%. Seed medium. (CAS Yearbook 1950) Origin, FL; Race, WIxG; Flowering group, B (Lahav & Gazit) (originated in Miami; of unknown parentage; fruited in 1937, propagated in 1938); pear-shaped; lg.;skin smooth, fairly thick; flesh deep-yellow, 12-16% oil; seed med. lg.,tight. Season: Nov. & Dec. Heavy bearer & cold-hardy but subject to scab. (J.Morton 1987)

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Re: Hall Avocado
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2022, 03:28:14 PM »
John, this is all I could find on Hall :HALL   Florida Originated on place of Willis Hall, Miami as seedling of unknown origin. Tree heavy bearing & hardy. Fruit season, Nov., Dec.; color, dk. green; weight 20- 30 ozs.; shape, pyriform; skin, smooth, thick; quality, fine; oil, 12-16%. Seed medium. (CAS Yearbook 1950) Origin, FL; Race, WIxG; Flowering group, B (Lahav & Gazit) (originated in Miami; of unknown parentage; fruited in 1937, propagated in 1938); pear-shaped; lg.;skin smooth, fairly thick; flesh deep-yellow, 12-16% oil; seed med. lg.,tight. Season: Nov. & Dec. Heavy bearer & cold-hardy but subject to scab. (J.Morton 1987)
Thanks, Scott, I did happen to see that information myself.  So maybe if it's subject to scab and anthracnose, it wouldn't be a good choice.  I was hoping someone who's growing it around here might relay his first-hand experiences and opinion of the variety.  It seems that Carlos, who knows about all things avocado in south Miami-Dade (where Florida avocados are grown commercially), has been away from the forum for several days.
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Re: Hall Avocado
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2022, 06:07:40 PM »
The Hall is a very very prolific avocado. You can start picking in Homestead the first week of October at 26 oz Will taste better in November and will decline in quality and flavor in January. Manny people don’t pick them until December.  If you don’t fertilize much.
I have seen them in a yard in Hialeah in March.
I had two: Laurel Wilt took one and I cut the other to graft a Waldin on it.  If you pick these at the right time people will make comments like “this is the best avocado I ever had” I had them in the section that I have the Monroes they were sprayed 7-9 times a year.  They were very susceptible to anthracnosis. Hard to keep clean.  Commercially they ripen when the Dominican fruit is coming in, so not worth for me to grow them, more like impossible to compete with $1.00 or $2.00  hour labor rate in DR. 


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Re: Hall Avocado
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2022, 06:38:55 PM »
Thank you, Carlos!  What's your favorite fall variety?  One that does NOT require spraying and not a monster tree.  A few more questions.  I know you really like Dupuis, but how much better is it than Simmonds?  Isn't Simmonds more reliable?  Would Monroe pollinate Dupuis?  What's your opinion of Pollock?
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Re: Hall Avocado
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2022, 03:05:03 PM »
Is all a matter of taste. Dupuis and Simond both are excellent. Dupuis a bit early For the fall a good Waldin is really good and stays relatively clean. The downside
the large seed. I'm testing a new cultivar, Denise. Ripens in September extremely creamy, let's see how well it is this year to confirm production. A 25oz fruit with small seed.   Pollock is good but production is poor, especially since we are in this warming trend, very susceptible to Laurel Wilt.
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Re: Hall Avocado
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2022, 11:08:17 AM »
Denise sounds interesting, how big is the mother tree? This could be a winner for me if the tree is not terribly cold sensitive.

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Re: Hall Avocado
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2022, 11:13:27 AM »
Denise sounds interesting, how big is the mother tree? This could be a winner for me if the tree is not terribly cold sensitive.
Yes, I'd like to know more.  Also, Carlos, do you think Monroe would be a good pollinator for Dupuis?
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Re: Hall Avocado
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2022, 05:35:58 PM »
Monroe is not the best B flower to pollinate Dupuis because flowers a few weeks later. Although weather has been crazy, and anything is possible.
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