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All About the Zill Mangos!
« on: July 14, 2017, 02:22:57 PM »
So as I look around the forum there are tons of posts scattered through out with information pertaining to the Zill mangos. I thought it would be a good idea if we have one post that we can all refer to in the future for past, present and future Zill mango releases.

I currently have a few of them growing. Some have bloomed but have not fruited yet. Anyone else here currently growing them with successful harvests and photos of the fruits?
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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2017, 05:46:40 PM »
There are a couple threads, where someone has compiled reviews.  which include the new Zill varieties.    some of the really new ones have little information from backyard growers,  since they have only been recently introduced,  so only time will tell, how they will turn out in the "world".
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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2017, 08:52:09 PM »
Where is the best place in S. FL to procure Zill mangos?

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2017, 08:51:44 AM »
They have a stand by their house.
Zill's Mangos.
Search that, they have a Facebook page with all the relevant info
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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2017, 09:15:43 AM »
I too asked for a composite journal on Zill mangos a few years ago.  Would love to know the history, breeding activities, criteria of Gary Zill and of course characteristics of the fruit and trees.

Having said that a few days ago I grafted Fruit Punch, Pineapple Pleasure, Juicy Fruit and Cotton Candy on a stubbed back Mallika - 7 sticks.  Another stick of PP on a bearing Sweet Tart and a stick of Fruit Punch on a bearing Lemon Zest.    This about completes my Zill collection.



Just for shits and grins, a clothespin adds tension over Buddy Tape on 3 of them.  Cleft graft.



Last year's newly grafted Frankencado in the background is holding 15 fruit of Pinkerton, Sir Prize, Ardith and Holiday.  I probably dropped 60 small fruit on this tree. 

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2017, 11:15:25 AM »
No publication or journal on the Zill mangies and probably never will be.  Without getting the info directly from the source,  you would have nithing but assumptions and/or best guesses or at best, some third hand info on partial facts (or full facts is some cases)...and the source has no intention of providing all the background information.   A lot of the information is proprietary or "trade secret"...or at least "family secret" and not something that the family wants to share in general publication.
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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2022, 04:28:27 PM »
Alex has some new to me Zill varieties listed on the last page of this:

https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/_files/ugd/9c9af8_87fe2317202b43dcb793041145c9f8ea.pdf

Curious Alex or anyone else has experience with the fruits and if some has since been named.

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2022, 05:02:20 PM »
So I guess M-4 and P-22 still don't have proper names?
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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2022, 05:50:57 PM »
So I guess M-4 and P-22 still don't have proper names?

At last check that’s correct. Both make Future’s top 30 mango list though!

The ones in question are (with more info at the link)

Name
Zill 0
Zill 3-12 Zill 3-18
Zill 23-2
Zill 32-5
Zill 33-8
Zill 34-15
Zill 36-8 (India)
 Zill 36-43
Zill 40-17
Zill 40-26
Zill-80
Zill C-17
Zill M-4
Zill M-10
Zill M-17
Zill N-12
Zill O-15
Zill O-29
Zill P-22

Last I spoke to Dr. Campbell he had permission to name M10 and M17.  He also seemed to indicate one of them was only in his possession at the time. (Ie original tree killed)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2022, 09:12:31 PM »
 Of the Zill mangoes I am growing E-4 (sugarloaf) and pineapple Pleasure in my Coastal Miami yard.

 Insubstantial to mention but if we are making a log:  The pineapple pleasure i just planted last  year it was a 3 gallon. , it already has anthracnose on older leaves and has flushed leaves twice, no bloom this winter.

More informative: The sugarloaf I have I planted in 2019. It’s about 8 ft tall and relatively lengthy, not very symmetrical. But you asked about fruit, two years in a row I had full bloom, 2021 i had 3 mangoes that all dropped at chicken egg-size. 2022 I had just one fruit and it dropped at apricot-size. Both years the flowers were overwhelmingly male. Just a few female flowers. I enjoy the fruit so much(it’s my favorite) that i Plan on top-working one of my trees to sugarloaf as well. I figure I need two trees to have a chance at good harvest in future years judging by male flowers. The older leaves get anthracnose  but overall it’s a decent looking  tree with a fairly lengthy and vertical asymmetrical canopy, but pretty light colored leaves. Simaler growth to my “Keitt” but not quite as lengthy and much lighter leaves/ in believe E4 Has Keitt parentage….

It ain’t much but that’s my contribution.

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2022, 10:25:30 PM »
So I guess M-4 and P-22 still don't have proper names?

So Coconaught cheesecake and parsnips and cream didn't make good sales?

aw shucks!

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2022, 11:16:00 AM »
Alex has some new to me Zill varieties listed on the last page of this:

https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/_files/ugd/9c9af8_87fe2317202b43dcb793041145c9f8ea.pdf

Curious Alex or anyone else has experience with the fruits and if some has since been named.

I have Z34-15 and Z40-26 1 gallon grafts on the way. Im excited about these 2.

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2022, 01:33:26 PM »
So I guess M-4 and P-22 still don't have proper names?

At last check that’s correct. Both make Future’s top 30 mango list though!

The ones in question are (with more info at the link)

Name
Zill 0
Zill 3-12 Zill 3-18
Zill 23-2
Zill 32-5
Zill 33-8
Zill 34-15
Zill 36-8 (India)
 Zill 36-43
Zill 40-17
Zill 40-26
Zill-80
Zill C-17
Zill M-4
Zill M-10
Zill M-17
Zill N-12
Zill O-15
Zill O-29
Zill P-22

Last I spoke to Dr. Campbell he had permission to name M10 and M17.  He also seemed to indicate one of them was only in his possession at the time. (Ie original tree killed)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2022, 02:13:50 PM »
Anyone heard of Z-20? Gotta mango last year with that written on it. Was very good (floral, no fiber) and different, so saved the seed and growing a mono seedling. The 2 people that probably hooked me up both denied having "Z-20" or knowing anything about it. Feel like I was abducted by aliens, as no one will corroborate my experience.

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2022, 06:44:18 PM »
Anyone heard of Z-20? Gotta mango last year with that written on it. Was very good (floral, no fiber) and different, so saved the seed and growing a mono seedling. The 2 people that probably hooked me up both denied having "Z-20" or knowing anything about it. Feel like I was abducted by aliens, as no one will corroborate my experience.

Yes. This was featured in the most recent Future’s Florida Fruit Feast. It’s a citrus (Orange/tangerine) flavored delight. I had never heard of it, took and change and am  glad I bought a dozen. I also confirm: mono seed.

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2022, 08:10:19 AM »
Thanks for the info/reminder Future! Even more excited to be growing out seedling of Z20 now. 

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2022, 08:33:07 PM »
any updates on the new varieties from alex page? in terms of flavor profile

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2022, 03:55:36 PM »
any updates on the new varieties from alex page? in terms of flavor profile

No but if you check out his site most of those ones are explained in detail.

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2022, 12:22:44 AM »
any updates on the new varieties from alex page? in terms of flavor profile

No but if you check out his site most of those ones are explained in detail.


I would not post if the info was sufficient!

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Re: All About the Zill Mangos!
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2022, 12:40:54 PM »
M4 should be Coconut Dream.
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