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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #400 on: April 12, 2018, 09:17:11 PM »
Holy cow, that's fast. You must be feeding it well.

I had thought it was older, but Seadation and I tentatively dated it back to 5 years old from seed.
Either that or there is a mistake in his records? My guess it that there is a mistake.

I did some research through old photo's and text.  Confirmed my tree is in fact a 2013 seedling.  Seadation gave me the small seedling August 3 2013.  I planted it right away in ground.  It is in an area of my yard that has better soil than the rest of my yard.  In an area where the previous homeowner kept pigs and chickens, topsoil is black, and gets irrigation.  It is planted between 3 mango trees and a Mulberry, getting 70-80% filtered sunlight, 20-30% direct sunlight for most of its life.  I give it some slow release fertilizer, and occasional foliar sprays of the "Patrick mix" ( chelated Iron, Southern Ag citrus spray, occasionally mixed with foliage pro). 

Obviously it is happy where it is planted.  Seems like a synergistic effect of proper sunlight, water, food, and genetics.
OK, but how old was that seedling when you got it? They grow very slowly at first, so even a small seedling can be a lot older than appears.

Seeds were delivered to Seadation April 9 2013.
OK, but above you said you got the seedling on that date. If it really is only 5 years old from planting seed rather than from planting in the ground then it would be pretty incredible.
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« Reply #401 on: April 12, 2018, 09:23:56 PM »
This new gives me some hope for my 2013s as well. Tallest is only 4ft tall but, this is some amazing news.

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« Reply #402 on: April 12, 2018, 10:46:48 PM »
Just catching up to this thread. Clint I am definitely jealous and hopeful you get some fruit soon, just donít forget about me when the taste test happens. Over the years I kept mine in pots until last year when I finally put one in the ground. No fruit or flowers yet but I am definitely excited! Attached is a picture of my messages with Luc when I got the seeds from him. Which indeed was in 2013. And a picture of the one I put in the ground. I still have one more from 2013 left in a pot which is similar in size just deciding where I can put it in my yard as Iím out of space.
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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #403 on: April 12, 2018, 11:01:35 PM »
So if my math is correct itís literally been 5 years and 3days since I received the seeds in the mail so technically Sleepdoc, yours flowered in under 5 years.

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« Reply #404 on: April 14, 2018, 01:18:41 AM »
My 3 year old Luc's


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« Reply #405 on: May 01, 2018, 06:02:24 PM »
Photos taken today - so far so good ...





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« Reply #406 on: May 01, 2018, 07:11:43 PM »
Wow. I"m jealous.
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« Reply #407 on: May 01, 2018, 09:04:57 PM »
ME TOO!  :P
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« Reply #408 on: May 02, 2018, 12:25:05 AM »
Today just saw 1st fluch of next  blooms, its like a machine but still looking for bugs to pollenate .

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« Reply #409 on: May 02, 2018, 02:56:13 AM »
Congrats SleepDoc. Hope they ripen up. You may be able to give first US taste report!
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« Reply #410 on: May 02, 2018, 04:38:37 AM »
I have 2 small ones with flowers now at under 4 feet tall, They are both under 4 years old and one had a couple of flowers last year. My larger 7 feet tall, 5 year old one has no flowers but it looks a bit sickly.I hope some set.

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« Reply #411 on: May 02, 2018, 09:10:07 AM »
Thanks !  - Iím hopeful but not overly optimistic.  Iíll update the progress intermittently.

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« Reply #412 on: May 03, 2018, 06:23:15 PM »
Whow guys , specially Sleepdoc , this is great !!!!  Now , one good advise ...let them ripen on the tree till they turn a little orange ( not bright yellow ) and give a little when pressed . Although this fruit is ' climacteric ' ( a still green fruit knocked of the tree by whatever will still ripen ) They are sooo much sweeter and juicier when picked at the right time .
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« Reply #413 on: May 09, 2018, 09:44:26 PM »
I didnt want to start a new thread but if that was the right thing then I can delete this and start one.

I got some scions of the premium Mexican from Raul for grafting.
I kept 3 and passed the rest on to friends.  I put all 3 on G. intermedia.
One browned at the top and is likely a goner.
One stayed green with no change, may still be a take.  Watching.
The third appears to be pushing.  Its early yet, I will keep an eye on it and report progress.
Stoked.  Anyone else has an experience to share?


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« Reply #414 on: May 10, 2018, 11:03:29 AM »
Sounds like you did good. All my scions (with the exception of one that's on the edge of life / death) failed to take :-(. I did get takes on the selecto acha though.

I didnt want to start a new thread but if that was the right thing then I can delete this and start one.

I got some scions of the premium Mexican from Raul for grafting.
I kept 3 and passed the rest on to friends.  I put all 3 on G. intermedia.
One browned at the top and is likely a goner.
One stayed green with no change, may still be a take.  Watching.
The third appears to be pushing.  Its early yet, I will keep an eye on it and report progress.
Stoked.  Anyone else has an experience to share?
Jeff  :-)

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« Reply #415 on: May 10, 2018, 12:32:21 PM »
So far one take on Aichacharu. Side veneer/side cleft type graft on lateral branch of 5 year old in ground tree.  Waiting on a few more scions to arrive in the mail. 


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« Reply #417 on: May 10, 2018, 02:47:14 PM »
I didnt want to start a new thread but if that was the right thing then I can delete this and start one.

I got some scions of the premium Mexican from Raul for grafting.
I kept 3 and passed the rest on to friends.  I put all 3 on G. intermedia.
One browned at the top and is likely a goner.
One stayed green with no change, may still be a take.  Watching.
The third appears to be pushing.  Its early yet, I will keep an eye on it and report progress.
Stoked.  Anyone else has an experience to share?

I grafted several scions from Raul on May2016 (2 years ago). Some on Luc's Garcinias and some on achachairu. About 80% of scions took well and are still fine, but growth has been really slow, just a couple of flushes a year on the grafted scions, much slower than regular luc's garcinia. Only time will tell if grafts produce faster than the ungrafted trees. F.
 
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« Reply #418 on: May 10, 2018, 07:56:53 PM »
 I have a 2 metre tall example that is thriving and getting about 4-5 hours of full sun per day in far north
queensland Australia where the temperature gets up to 37 degrees celsius in summer with very humidity
and also another one flowering for the 2nd time so hopefully will set fruit




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« Reply #419 on: May 11, 2018, 07:25:57 PM »
The bees (native and small) are buzzing around the flowers on mine right now so hopefully this season is it. It is only 4 feet tall and being shaded by a red hybrid jab and E.candolleana (thanks Oscar) that are a bit too close. Maybe the shade made it flower faster than my bigger older (1.5 years older) one in stronger sun. The E.condolleana might have to yield if I have a space war but I really like the fruit.

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« Reply #420 on: May 22, 2018, 08:59:25 AM »
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« Reply #421 on: May 22, 2018, 10:44:59 PM »
You have the key to success with that one!  ;D
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« Reply #422 on: May 23, 2018, 06:14:25 PM »
I didnt want to start a new thread but if that was the right thing then I can delete this and start one.

I got some scions of the premium Mexican from Raul for grafting.
I kept 3 and passed the rest on to friends.  I put all 3 on G. intermedia.
One browned at the top and is likely a goner.
One stayed green with no change, may still be a take.  Watching.
The third appears to be pushing.  Its early yet, I will keep an eye on it and report progress.
Stoked.  Anyone else has an experience to share?

I grafted several scions from Raul on May2016 (2 years ago). Some on Luc's Garcinias and some on achachairu. About 80% of scions took well and are still fine, but growth has been really slow, just a couple of flushes a year on the grafted scions, much slower than regular luc's garcinia. Only time will tell if grafts produce faster than the ungrafted trees. F.

I grafted a couple from that same batch in 2016 to my in the ground Imbe, and one of the grafts is over 3 feet tall now. My in the ground Imbes are over 10 feet tall so that might be the best rootstock for the Luc's.

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« Reply #423 on: May 23, 2018, 08:19:14 PM »
I didnt want to start a new thread but if that was the right thing then I can delete this and start one.

I got some scions of the premium Mexican from Raul for grafting.
I kept 3 and passed the rest on to friends.  I put all 3 on G. intermedia.
One browned at the top and is likely a goner.
One stayed green with no change, may still be a take.  Watching.
The third appears to be pushing.  Its early yet, I will keep an eye on it and report progress.
Stoked.  Anyone else has an experience to share?

I grafted several scions from Raul on May2016 (2 years ago). Some on Luc's Garcinias and some on achachairu. About 80% of scions took well and are still fine, but growth has been really slow, just a couple of flushes a year on the grafted scions, much slower than regular luc's garcinia. Only time will tell if grafts produce faster than the ungrafted trees. F.

I grafted a couple from that same batch in 2016 to my in the ground Imbe, and one of the grafts is over 3 feet tall now. My in the ground Imbes are over 10 feet tall so that might be the best rootstock for the Luc's.

I remember seeing your Imbe and was amazed how big it was.  Did you grow it from seed, or did you get a starter plant?  I have several imbe seedlings that are growing as slow as all other garcinias -- very slow.  The only one that seems to grow faster for me is achachairu.

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« Reply #424 on: May 24, 2018, 12:59:27 AM »
I didnt want to start a new thread but if that was the right thing then I can delete this and start one.

I got some scions of the premium Mexican from Raul for grafting.
I kept 3 and passed the rest on to friends.  I put all 3 on G. intermedia.
One browned at the top and is likely a goner.
One stayed green with no change, may still be a take.  Watching.
The third appears to be pushing.  Its early yet, I will keep an eye on it and report progress.

Hey Barath,

I started the Imbe from seeds in 2006 and they were in tall tree pots for a few years and then 15 gallons then they went in the ground. They grew real good with generous fertilizing. The huge one in the ground has put out about 6 water sprouts a few feet away, so they are perfect for grafting Luc's onto.

Stoked.  Anyone else has an experience to share?

I grafted several scions from Raul on May2016 (2 years ago). Some on Luc's Garcinias and some on achachairu. About 80% of scions took well and are still fine, but growth has been really slow, just a couple of flushes a year on the grafted scions, much slower than regular luc's garcinia. Only time will tell if grafts produce faster than the ungrafted trees. F.

I grafted a couple from that same batch in 2016 to my in the ground Imbe, and one of the grafts is over 3 feet tall now. My in the ground Imbes are over 10 feet tall so that might be the best rootstock for the Luc's.

I remember seeing your Imbe and was amazed how big it was.  Did you grow it from seed, or did you get a starter plant?  I have several imbe seedlings that are growing as slow as all other garcinias -- very slow.  The only one that seems to grow faster for me is achachairu.

 

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