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Viejo and Tazumal are winter mamey cultivars. My Viejo and Pantin bloom at the same time, but Viejo fruit development period is shorter. My Viejo takes 11 to 12 months from flower to mature fruit, while my Pantin takes 1.5 years more or less.

Thanks! I personally dislike the flavor of Pantin. Tastes too sweet and doesn't really have the almond flavor I enjoy from Mamey.

I guess if you had to pick between Viejo and Tazumal, which would you pick? (or anyone else reading)

I have no experience with Tazumal with the exception of Julian of Lara Farms mentioning that it has a tendency of uneven ripening. Viejo is a productive tough tree, but fruits are on the small side most of the time and fruit quality can vary in regards to sweetness ( mamey flavored potato to a sweet delicious mamey).

Viejo and Tazumal are winter mamey cultivars. My Viejo and Pantin bloom at the same time, but Viejo fruit development period is shorter. My Viejo takes 11 to 12 months from flower to mature fruit, while my Pantin takes 1.5 years more or less.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey sapote in 10b
« on: January 25, 2024, 01:11:46 PM »
I think you can grow mamey with no issues in 10 b.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: K-40 Mamey Sapote
« on: January 22, 2024, 02:38:45 PM »
I asked Alex by email a while back, and he said that there's not much known about it.

I think the cultivar was originally from Costa Rica and obtained by Richard Campbell/Fairchild Garden. Alex said he hadn't tasted it yet, but if it was retrieved by Campbell and given a cultivar name, it most likely is pretty special!

This was back in 2021, so Alex's tree(s) may have fruited allowing him to taste since then.  I'm ordering one from Lara Farms now, hopefully can report back on it in a few years!


Cool. 🙂 Pozo azul is another cultivar from Costa Rica as well. It is listed in the Lara Farms website.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: plant id needed
« on: January 22, 2024, 08:38:21 AM »
If it is growing above the graft, then it is a grafted mamey tree. Green sapote leaves look different.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: plant id needed
« on: January 21, 2024, 05:43:15 PM »
Looks like mamey.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Bloom in South Florida
« on: January 12, 2024, 11:14:33 AM »
My Carrie has flowers.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My First Successful Mamey Graft!
« on: December 19, 2023, 08:21:57 AM »
Thanks! I think the key is timing ( fall or spring), leaving some leaves to keep the scion active, and bagging the tree to create a mini greenhouse around the plant to keep it in a humid environment. Also keep an eye out for developing suckers at the base of the seedling. Just use the parafilm/grafting tape to seal the graft union itself.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / My First Successful Mamey Graft!
« on: December 16, 2023, 02:09:33 PM »
I've tried grafting mamey scions onto new branches of my older mamey trees to make a cocktail tree a few times, tried grafting a couple of larger seedlings by doing a side-cleft graft with no leaves (wrapped in parafilm) like a mango a couple of times with no luck. Recently, I have tried doing a cleft graft using a scion with leaves on it and covering the plant and pot with a moisture bag to create a mini green house affect and it worked! I had a 2 year old Pace mamey that had an extra branch that I did not want, plus I had a young vigorous Viejo seedling with a thick stem, so I thought "why not give it a try". Grafted it, and a couple of weeks later, I noticed fresh sap leaking from the stem, which was a good sign. But, it started forming clusters of suckers from the base of the seedling. I left it as is, thinking that I will trim them off when I remove the bag when the scion begins pushing leaves. Unfortunately, it began dropping it's leaves. That is when I cut a small hole in the bag and snipped off the suckers with a pair of scissors and taped it back up.  A week later, it began pushing new leaves and I removed the bag. Only one leaf stayed on the scion. It took a total of 3 weeks. Here are pictures from a week ago and now a week later. I am not planning on selling it.

One week later.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona tree ID
« on: November 22, 2023, 09:24:23 AM »
Probably chirimoya aka reticulata. 

It's been a while since I've had them, but the flavor was quite good, just a notch below cherimoya and atemoya. However, getting them to fruit and remain healthy is a challenge. They are plagued by leaf hopper, which causes stunted leaves, chlorosis, and ultimately an unhealthy and stunted tree. Seed borer may also present a problem. And it usually requires boron to set fruit. I've only seen one productive / healthy ilama tree in south florida. I'd say it is only suited for the more advanced growers.

Green leaf hoppers have been a major issue in my back yard lately. Hard to grow sugar apple now without the use of some sort of insecticide. They also attack the new slow growing leaves of the Viejo mamey. They donít attack my Pace,  but do also attack the Pantin, but not as bad.

Lorina? Never heard of that cultivar. Is it actually Lorito?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vidal Redondo Mamey
« on: September 26, 2023, 08:47:14 PM »
Guys. I messed up and cut a mamey in half and it is rock hard but orange. Any chance it will ripen or should I throw it in the trash?

That sucks. Don't think that would ripen correctly now. Just wait until it gets soft with no firmness next time.  :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vidal Redondo Mamey
« on: September 26, 2023, 08:44:48 PM »
looks awesome Alex! I've tried Pantin, Pace and magana for sure. Not sure if I've had others, I often buy them and the varieties are mixed. Waiting for the tree at home to flower/set, hopefully sooner than later. How does viejo compare to pantin? Hope to try Vidal Redondo one day too.

Thanks! So far, the viejo has been kinda average in flavor. Not much sweetness at all. I've read that quality can vary with Viejo. If most fruits are like that, I might end-up getting it top worked to another variety if possible. It's a shame, cause the color and texture is really nice. The fruits I've had from Pantin/Key-West were richer, more creamy, and much sweeter. The only downside to the Pantin is that the the larger fruits can ripen unevenly. One part would be perfectly ripe and the other part of the same fruit would be moldy and over-ripe.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your favourite tropical fruit?
« on: September 24, 2023, 11:22:17 AM »
Mamey sapote :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Vidal Redondo Mamey
« on: September 23, 2023, 08:39:27 PM »
Bought this cool specimen at Lara Farms last weekend and planted it. Looking forward to tasting it in 3 to 5 years.  :)

My list of mamey cultivars have been growing lately. Currently have Pantin, Viejo, Pace, Cepeda Especial, and the newly planted Vidal Redondo. Might add a "Papa" mamey later on or Whitman Green Sapote. For now, been enjoying some Viejo fruits. Last year my tree did the same thing. Ripened a crop in September into October, then a second wave in December-January, and a few fruit in February.

The Pace:

Cepeda Especial (small one on the left) next to a Viejo seedling (just an experimental seedling that is likely a viejo x pantin cross):

Pantin that was recently trimmed:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: K-40 Mamey Sapote
« on: July 02, 2023, 03:46:15 PM »
Email Julian of Lara Farms and/or Alex of Tropical Acres. The first time I've seen K40 was on the Lara Farms website. I'm curious about it as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pantin Mamey Ripening in May?
« on: May 27, 2023, 06:07:15 PM »
Has anyone had a pantin mamey tree ripen fruit in May, instead of late June into August? There is another cultivar called "Florida" that is supposed to be similar to Pantin, but ripens in May/June, so I am wondering if I have a Florida cultivar instead. I have some pictures of the tree and fruit. The fruit is rich, sweet, pasty (not watery) and the pulp is a pink-orange/salmon color (does not get red/pink).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I picked my first Rollinia today
« on: April 27, 2023, 12:34:17 AM »
Cool! From the videos I watched about Rollinia, it gets mucousy/slimy if you let it ripen too much. Someone recommended harvesting the fruit when it has some green and yellow, then eating it the next day for the best texture. I actually just got my rollinia seedlings that I ordered online on Etsy from a local seller in Jupiter FL. I'm looking forward to growing and tasting my first rollinia fruit within a few years.  :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: is this mamey seed germinated?
« on: April 23, 2023, 02:50:01 AM »
That is part of the seed. The reddish pointed end should be where the tap root would grow from. The seed will then open up into two halves and a shoot that would produce leaves would pop out once the root has grown out. I would plant that seed with the pointed end facing downward at around a 20 to 45 degree angle with the top part of the seed (non-pointed blunt end) just barely below or at soil level. I've seen them planted vertically into the soil with the seed buried 3/4ths of the way. Looks like the seed is primed for growth.  :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Unknown Seedling (Abiu?)
« on: April 21, 2023, 01:55:50 PM »
Hello everyone,

I've had this interesting looking plant growing in my backyard for a couple of years and it had been whacked with a weed-eater once. It looks different compared to all the other weeds/wild plants that are growing around. It was planted by some random animal. It kinda looks like an Abiu based on the pictures that I've seen, but I'm not sure. I would greatly appreciate any input as to what this plant is.

Looks great!

Do you do anything beyond fertilizer for your mamey trees?  I planted a Lorrito and Pace last year and am hoping that I can meet their nutritional needs growing out west in SWR.

Thanks! I have been using southern Ag 10-10-10 granular fertilizer 3 times a year (spring, middle to late summer, and late fall) and southern ag Essential Minor Elements granular fertilizer during the winter months (once or twice during the winter).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pantin Mamey Height Reduction.
« on: April 18, 2023, 02:34:18 PM »
5 years later...

Amazing update, looks like you need another height reduction haha

Thanks! Yup, it does. I'm weighting to harvest some fruit first before trimming it. Thankfully, the tree seems to be actively growing away from the power lines, but I want to make sure that it doesn't get too close.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pantin Mamey Height Reduction.
« on: April 18, 2023, 02:33:18 PM »
Your tree turned out nice. Did you get any fruits on your tree?

Thanks! Hopefully about to enjoy my first fruits this June-August. lol

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tropicalgrower's 04/18/2023 Yard Update
« on: April 18, 2023, 02:32:09 PM »
Pantin Mamey holding it's first set of fruit to maturity since planting it as a 7 gallon tree in November of 2012.

Viejo Mamey planted in 2014 as a 3 gallon.

Gary Mango, originally Nam Doc Mai #4 tree.

Coconut Cream Mango.

Carrie Mango.

Grafted Miami Soursop, nothing much to look at, but should sprout back to life soon.

Grafted Hipolito Caimito:

Tikal Sapodilla.

Alano Sapodilla (much more dwarfish).

Sugar Apple coming out of dormancy. Background bananas are mysore and manzano (or namwah).

1 year old Pace Mamey.

Ross Sapote.

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