Hedvekuli: a rare, vining annona endemic to India

[Roy-Ind]

Seeds are available.

The title credit goes to Patrick

Thank you Patrick

Some members have already germinated the seeds.


Roy

[dxgn]

Hi pat, how much are you selling the seeds? Do you have a pic of the fruit? Thanks,

Regards,
Jet

[Sanddollarmoon]

Roy, you are welcome. I had germination in just 72 hours, the fastest I have had for any plant. Jet, I payed Roy 25 USD, for 140 hedvekuli seeds plus a number of others.

[EvilFruit]

Roy,

Your snakeroot and Ashawagandh seeds have germinated, Thanks.

How much for Hedvekuli seeds (including shipping) ?.

Mohd

[huertasurbanas]

Hi, I am trying to germinate some. Do you know how many years does it takes to fruit?

[Roy-Ind]

I am sorry to say that some members reported me these were not to be true Hedvekuli seeds

I am trying my hard to get these  ones again.

Once I find them,I will send some to those I gave Hedvekuli seeds earlier.

I am sorry for causing inconvenience.

Roy

[Luisport]

I am sorry to say that some members reported me these were not to be true Hedvekuli seeds

I am trying my hard to get these  ones again.

Once I find them,I will send some to those I gave Hedvekuli seeds earlier.

I am sorry for causing inconvenience.

Roy

This photo seedlings are not the ones? What is it?

[HIfarm]

So the seeds you provided earlier are not Fissistigma?  Any idea of what they are? 

John

[huertasurbanas]

Thanks for reporting, Roy, hopefully you can find those hedvekuli, and also be good to know what species are these other ones, greetings

[Roy-Ind]

From a book on Edible Plants in Himalayas,
I found this sketch of Hedvekuli-Fissistigma verrocosum



Roy

[Luisport]

So, what plant is the one we have instead of Hedvekuli?

[HIfarm]

Any idea of what we have Roy?  Those of us in tropical areas may have concerns that what we have may actually be some sort of noxious weed that we should be destroying instead of keeping to see what it is.  We already have enough undesirable "invader" species here in Hawaii.

John

So, what plant is the one we have instead of Hedvekuli?

[Taparyal]

It is  some Cassia, Senna or Chamaechrista most probably.
!00% it is from Caesapinoidae

[Roy-Ind]

Taparyal
You mean member of Caesalpiniodeae(Fabaceae or Leguminosae)?

In that case,some are invasive what I found on the internet

I am sorry again for this episode.

I will try my level best to get true Hedvekuli(Fissistigma verrocosum) for the forum members.

Roy

[Taparyal]

Yes dera Digpati. Sorry, i typed it wrong!
In a few days I will see the seeds myself and try to identify the species.
I had myself once various Senna and Chamaechrista absus growing.
From pictures of the seed and the seedlings I am 100% sure they are from Caesalpinioidae

[Taparyal]

What I thought, the time You had Fissistigma You had available also Cassia fistula seeds. Can it be that the collector simple mislabled the two seed packages?

[Roy-Ind]

I have different collectors in some states of India and
some of them are knowledgeable in the subjects and the rest of them are not.
My collector from Assam just wrote Hedvekuli on the bag and sent it
(The plastic bag was much bigger than the paper envelope
containing Cassia fistula from a different collector).
My this collector from Orissa wrote Cassia fistula clearly on the
smaller paper packet with date and place of collection.
There was no confusion in both the items.
The mistake was done by the collector from Assam.
Usually I will ask photos of fruit,seed and leaf but that time he did not send.
Roy

[Luisport]

Ok, but when you have the right hedvekuli seeds i'm interested. Thank you 

[huertasurbanas]

Hi, thanks for your work: it seems to be a nice tree:



if it's cassia fistula...

[Taparyal]

I have different collectors in some states of India and
some of them are knowledgeable in the subjects and the rest of them are not.
My collector from Assam just wrote Hedvekuli on the bag and sent it
(The plastic bag was much bigger than the paper envelope
containing Cassia fistula from a different collector).
My this collector from Orissa wrote Cassia fistula clearly on the
smaller paper packet with date and place of collection.
There was no confusion in both the items.
The mistake was done by the collector from Assam.
Usually I will ask photos of fruit,seed and leaf but that time he did not send.
Roy

At least for sure we know subfamily. I think I will be able to find out species

[Luisport]

Hi, thanks for your work: it seems to be a nice tree:



if it's cassia fistula...

It's not cassia fistula, because seeds don't match! http://www.seedsplants.kimeracorporation.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_images.tpl&product_id=154&category_id=23&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=5

[sanitarium]

According to this site and pictures of seeds it could be cassia hebecarpa or maralandica

site:

http://www.junglekey.fr/search.php?query=Senna+alata&type=image&lang=fr&region=fr&img=1&adv=1&fqhist1=Senna+alata&start=50

Pictures of cassia seeds:

http://www.jaymer.com/garden/cassia/seed_project_99aug/seeds_1aftsoak_081199.jpg

http://www.jaymer.com/garden/cassia/seed_project_99aug/seeds_1befsoak_081099.jpg