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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: guavas ziploc method: what to do next?
« on: August 01, 2013, 11:33:35 AM »
Vary thanks Karen, I did it just like you said.

How many days should I spect them to start to push up?

Usually, I just sow them in soil and wait for 40 days or more, but now in just 10 days they have roots so, I suspect I will have to wait 30 days, dont you think?

Not sure for guavas, it totally depends on the type of plant.  Some plants spend so long working on their root system that you might give them up for dead before they do anything above ground.  Some, are just the opposite and will be standing up in their pots the day after you plant them.  One of my funniest ones is santol, which first does the latter, then the former  ;)




Yes, in my little experiencie, jaboticaba vexator and camu-camu take a long time to develop roots and then push up, in fact, I think they took 3 or 4 months here in my room in winter... :S


By the way: should I use the ziploc method for jaboticabas too? (adam... oscar...)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: guavas ziploc method: what to do next?
« on: August 01, 2013, 10:52:24 AM »
When I move seeds from backs, I usually plant them very shallowly, just enough to cover the root with soil, and then I loosely set plastic (often the bag that they were in) over the top of the soil to help keep it moist.  When the plants start pushing up I take it away.  Check the moisture levels every 1-2 days, small pots dry out fast and even a brief drying out will likely kill your delicate seedlings.

Congrats with your baby guavas!  :)

Vary thanks Karen, I did it just like you said. (and then I put the seed starter in a tupperware I open from time to time.)

How many days should I spect them to start to push up?

Usually, I just sow them in soil and wait for 40 days or more, but now in just 10 days they have roots so, I suspect I will have to wait 30 days, dont you think?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / guavas ziploc method: what to do next?
« on: August 01, 2013, 10:33:10 AM »


Alright! Finally a method that works for me with the guavas! were germinated in about 10 days, 100%, sometimes at temperatures of 32 ° C, because I have them over an old PC monitor... temperature raising.

Now the big question is: what substrate should I use? How much should I bury them? Should you use garden soil as compost sometimes generates diseases? How much should I water them? sorry, too much questions...

Please note that I am in a dry room, in winter, temperatures between 19 º and 25 º C.

I imagine that I have to deal with them very carefully, place them on the soil in seed starters, and then cover with soil without pressing, a little water to spray ....

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Alright! Finally a method that works for me with the guavas! were germinated 10 days, 100%, sometimes at temperatures of 32 ° C, because I have them over an old PC monitor, temperature raising.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I harvest a tamarillo?
« on: July 30, 2013, 11:40:39 PM »
Good news: the seeds will probably be viable. Bad news: don't think the green fruits can continue to ripen off the tree.
Suggestion: if possible, better frost protection.

One of the fruits is ripening off the tree, look:


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I harvest a tamarillo?
« on: July 30, 2013, 09:26:38 AM »
Yes viable seeds are light brown color. Did you know they are also very easy to start from cuttings?

yes, but I'm a total fool: two friends of mine asked me cuttings but as I saw that even in winter the tree kept growing and giving new flowers and fruits, I did not cut it ... now those parts are frozen wood  ...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I harvest a tamarillo?
« on: July 29, 2013, 07:42:47 PM »
Hi again, I took the yellow and wrinkled one and cutted it:



I doesnt tasted bad: very acidic.

It had some brown seeds... these are the ones that could be viable?







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I harvest a tamarillo?
« on: July 29, 2013, 02:40:43 PM »
Good news: the seeds will probably be viable. Bad news: don't think the green fruits can continue to ripen off the tree.
Suggestion: if possible, better frost protection.

I'm glad. Today I cut one by the middle, it was green but rotting, I guess that was due to frost. The aroma is good! still being green ... seeds do not seem well-developed ... I hope that the yellow and wrinkled has any viable seed, but, the only hope is the one that is red has viable seeds...,  still needs to mature on the plant.





Yes, the next frosts I will use the blanket again, I have to use anti-freeze blanket again, what happens is that previously had used and also had frozen leaves touching the blanket, but should have left it on, that was better than this.

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Looks nice, thanks for the photo. What size is the fruit? Is it similar size to surinam cherry?


really dont know, this is a photo from a nursery at facebook, I will ask, but it seems to be very similar.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I harvest a tamarillo?
« on: July 28, 2013, 08:01:37 PM »
Ok Camile and Oscar: bad news, frosts were very hard the last week, and the tree sufered a lot... only 3 fruits hanging now... 1 almost mature and 2 starting to change colour...




6 green fruits (that fall of the tree) were translated into my room, into a tupper with apples to see if they can ripe

the oldest of them now is yellow and arrugada... of course I dont think it could be edible but, ¿maybe some seeds could be viable/ alive/ready to seed?




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Yes, slow groing

habita bosques ribereños del Río Uruguay e islas lo compartimos con Argentina, Brasil y Paraguay
I hope yours fruit soon and you can tell us what do you think about the taste :D



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I am so happy!!! one of the guabirobas started to sprout leaves afeter 6 months of "praying"! thank you very much!





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Hi Luc, do you have Eugenia repanda? I have a small plant and wondering if the fruits are any good? Thanks,

Hola Oscar, hoy hablé con un viverista que tiene eugenia repanda (acá la llamamos ñangapirí negro...) y dice que su sabor es bueno, una mezcla entre pitanga y jambos.

Parece que es de crecimiento lento y que fructifica bastante bien en lugares sombreados.
Espero conseguir algunos ejemplares.

_____________

Hi Oscar, today I spoke to a nursery that has eugenia repanda (black ñangapirí ...) and says that it tastes good, a mix between pitanga and jambos.

It seems to be slow growing and fruiting quite well in shady places.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: L-shaped root in pots
« on: July 25, 2013, 03:08:00 PM »
I have this problem with some guavas I will have to repot, but I suspect that it's better not to cut

I moved an established guava tree and only took a 24" x 24" root ball, leaving behind much of the root system including much of the taproot, I'm sure.  The tree responded by immediately shedding leaves but rebounded within a couple of months and has since flushed and fruited regularly.  You should be okay with guavas.

God to know it! maybe I will have to do this in the future, as I have 2 guavas in my garden and only need one

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: L-shaped root in pots
« on: July 24, 2013, 01:58:48 PM »
I have this problem with some guavas I will have to repot, but I suspect that it's better not to cut

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I want them all :(

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The fruits are still hanging in the tree, I will try to protect it all the winter, we are 2 months from spring...

photos:

http://www.huertasurbanas.com/2013/07/23/tomate-de-arbol-todas-las-hojas-quemadas-por-helada-de-4o-c/

what do u think? will it survive?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When should I harvest a tamarillo?
« on: July 22, 2013, 06:16:06 PM »
Ok, thanks to all, I agree it is a very beautiful fruit, I will wait a few days :D

When the striping disappears then they are fully ripe. I really love this fruit. Especially good mixed with avocado (palta).  :P

Ahora está bien claro el asunto: tienen q desaparecer las rayas! gracias Oscar; cuando tenga suficientes, las probaré mezcladas con paltas

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And now, they are getting better:

http://youtu.be/U9kkSc2c3vk

thanks

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There Red Guava Bought From My Local Grocery Store , The Leave Pattern are the same as My Large Red Guava Tree.

They look very good,
how you manage to separate the roots without dying :

I removed the seedlings by taking my garden hose & switching the setting to rain , Them I aimed the Hose at the guava roots and they come apart easily ! no damage , then i pot them , havent lost 1 seedling yet.'

Thank You,..

I made something similar last year with a series of seeds who had come from Peru, and had planted all in a flowerpot: I made sure that the soil was wet and took a spoon, but I think your method is better, from what I understand, you flood them

the roots are completely clean without soil when you extract them?

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I had 100% germination rate using the baggie method (germination took place from < 1 week to > 3 weeks).  For the health of the plants, I'd imagine it's better to start them in pots, but if you want to check your seed viability & germination times the baggie method is pretty user friendly.

yes, Ok, but i had problems transplanting the germinated seeds to the pots then:

at what time of germination do you sow them? before the first leaves? when just out the root? and what type of substrate do you use?

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Here are all the Guava Seedlings..



Then I separate them :



Good Luck..


They look very good,
how you manage to separate the roots without dying?

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When starting seeds in pots, I've never had good luck if I used a soil mix that was "rich"-- one that has compost, worm castings, etc. as all those good nutrients will feed not only plants but also fungus and bacteria.  I generally try to use a relatively nutrient-free medium composed of things like peat moss, perlite, vermiculite or milled sphagnum moss.  Once the seeds germinate and have their first leaves, you can top-dress with a little compost (but just a little to start!) to give the plants some nutrients, and when you transplant them into a larger pot they can certainly get a richer soil mix.

For watering, it does sound like you're watering too much.  When starting seeds indoors, low humidity will dry out the top of the soil where the seeds are, but it likely isn't drying out the bottom of the pot, and by watering every day or even multiple times a day you are encouraging the growth of seed- and root-rotting organisms lower in the pot.  Instead of watering every day, try mixing up a good batch of seed-starting mix, get it moist but not wet, plant your seeds and cover the pot (or whole tray of pots) with some clear plastic.  This will keep the humidity constant and high and prevent the pots from drying out.  Every few days lift the plastic up for a minute or two to let air in.

19-25 degrees may also be a little on the cool side for germination of tropicals like guavas; if you can put the pots / trays somewhere warmer (25-30 degrees C) you'll likely get faster and much better germination.  Covering the pots with plastic will also help to keep them a little warmer and hold the heat in.

   Kevin

P.S.  Pebbles / small rocks are generally a bad idea to use in potting mix, unless they have a lot of pore space like volcanic cinders / perlite, or if the entire mix is made of similarly-sized particles (such as the "gritty mix").  But if you're including things like peat moss / compost / worm castings in the mix and adding small pebbles, they won't help with aeration, but rather make it set up into something akin to concrete over time.

Thanks, it was very clear your explanation, I'll see if I can do what you say, but I fear it will be difficult to maintain healthy seedlings if the caps with nylon, as they have compost, lots of organic matter. In some way this will improve.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / guavas, water and low rate of germination
« on: July 20, 2013, 11:00:34 AM »
How do I know if I'm following good methods to germinate guava (Psidium guajava) and Pisidium cattleianum? I'm getting a low percentage of germination, every day I keep the substrate (compost or vermicompost) moist, but how wet should it be? The room temperature is between 19º C and 25º C.

How do I know if I'm doing overwater? Do I have to let the soil dry out sometimes?

I water with a bottle that strip droplets, but it is true that sometimes i am watering 2 times per day if I see the soil drying out.

The first batch of strawberry guava seeds planted in compost (vegetable) had high (for what I know) percentage of germination and survival (approx half), the second batch planted in vermicompost, only 12 of 60 in 4 months, and not likely to germinate any more, although I have noticed that some continue to appear after 4 months in vegetal compost.

On the guava (Psidium guajava), germinate only one sixth (15% approx) or less; maybe I am over watering? the compost will be bad? there was a batch planted in compost with many "little rocks" (with a few pebbles to put in the compost to aerate the soil) that was not very successful.

What would you do?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: does some fruit has b12 vitamin?
« on: July 17, 2013, 12:18:46 AM »
I think B12 only comes from meat sources or supplementation
Nope. Dirt is where animal sources get B12. We clean are food, so no B12 for us.

Right! so, would it be good not to clean too much our food?

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