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Plantinyum:
Found this for sale, red its a sour type fruit. Is it worth growing this, how is it tastewise ??

Francis_Eric:
These are sour the berry is pure juice no fiber , but in my opinion not as good as sour cherry.

The fruit after some time becomes    not sour
 it loses it sourness even if stored after being picked for some time
(maybe in 2, or  3 weeks , but have not kept perfect records )


The wood on the other hand is very nice (see link it's P. serotina black cherry)

you could also buy this, and if did not like it graft on it
Black cherry is good


I like to forge , and have different opinions then others would have
to the typical person  I do not think it is the best.


https://www.wood-database.com/black-cherry/



I can say in Europe They tried starting a lumber industry growing US native cherry,
but I CANNOT REMEMBER what part (maybe England)
It did not go that well the wood is better then then the native cherry wood over there
They also tried cross breeding it with there native cherry for survival  ,
 I think I kept dying (maybe canker), but I read that like 10 years ago
it could of been the environment.

(I almost deleted my entire post)
If any of this for wood interests you you could google it for lumber in Europe 



Plantinyum:

--- Quote from: Francis_Eric on May 02, 2022, 05:37:29 PM ---These are sour the berry is pure juice no fiber , but in my opinion not as good as sour cherry.

The fruit after some time becomes    not sour
 it loses it sourness even if stored after being picked for some time
(maybe in 2, or  3 weeks , but have not kept perfect records )


The wood on the other hand is very nice (see link it's P. serotina black cherry)

you could also buy this, and if did not like it graft on it
Black cherry is good


I like to forge , and have different opinions then others would have
to the typical person  I do not think it is the best.


https://www.wood-database.com/black-cherry/



I can say in Europe They tried starting a lumber industry growing US native cherry,
but I CANNOT REMEMBER what part (maybe England)
It did not go that well the wood is better then then the native cherry wood over there
They also tried cross breeding it with there native cherry for survival  ,
 I think I kept dying (maybe canker), but I read that like 10 years ago
it could of been the environment.

(I almost deleted my entire post)
If any of this for wood interests you you could google it for lumber in Europe

--- End quote ---
thanks! Well no ,i do not oln a lumber industry or smt so the wood guality does not matter, was interested in the taste, qnd since u say its sour i will pass this one.
As for rootstocks i have a unlimited volume of those ,the regular wild cherry type.

Galatians522:
Some relatives from the north tell me that it makes excellent jam and that some trees have fruit that is paletable enough to eat out of hand. Choke Cherry should be a shrub or very small tree. My understanding was that it is not graft compatible with regular cherries (sour or sweet) because it is in the bird cherry section with Capulin and Black Cherry.

Francis_Eric:
Galatians Thanks I mistaken Prunus virginiana , and P. serotina
I blame quickly google images  (I should of did a image search on  Cal Photos )
Quickly though the tree could get 25 feet


https://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/trees/plants/chokecherry.html 
https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/search/?q=prunus


 Pin cherry Prunus pensylvanica that is a small one
https://gobotany.nativeplanttrust.org/species/prunus/pensylvanica/


That is short lived  I seen it  growing  about 5 feet to maybe 7 but mostly small (maybe not even 7 feet)
but I suppose from images on above link it gets bigger (I swore a native IL. book I have said different as well as what I've seen)

(see next post for more about it growing)


When I said The flavor is not as good I mean depends on what you use it for.

I picked some, but have not explored culinary as much as I liked
(hence as keeping them to long they lose all there acid, but store long also they can taste good .)
 (and I forgot the  non alcohol experiment drink I made)

Prunus pensylvanica pin cherry


But dang Prunus Pumelia (drawf is tiny like a foot or so tall)

They say not graft compatible
I Wonder if that is long term, and that could be used for speeding up flowering

(there are other mutant dwarf prunus from cultivated finds  though I think named under nana (for small)

(I may have info some place saved on the mutant (there is a technical term for it as well -- there are tiny grapes too.)


I may sell seeds eventually though , and nursery plants
Since I do not have a web site up or even know how to do that
 not very motivated to take time finding info , and trying to write anything up on it.
(to make traffic to web site for selling seeds)




 

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