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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: theobroma bicolor
« on: August 17, 2021, 05:38:36 AM »
thank you

Tropical Fruit Discussion / theobroma bicolor
« on: August 16, 2021, 04:55:10 AM »
Does macombo only flower on new growth? I went a little coco loco and decided to add a macombo to my collection if I can get the seeds to germinate, but I have read that they do not flower on the trunk like cacao but on "thin" branches. What do they mean by "thin"?The pods look substantial.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ethylene gas
« on: August 16, 2021, 04:23:02 AM »
I looked up a master gardener class about phytochemicals and not sure I want to risk it, it seems that ethylene triggers both flowering and senescence in leaves of certain plants, depending on the species. Since I am fairly new to tropicals not going to experiment, at least not yet.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wild Paw Paw
« on: August 13, 2021, 12:37:04 PM »
paw paw patches are generally found on riverbanks, there are dead fish floating that attracts the carrion flies that pollinate them, if you grow them where there are not dead animals you have to hand pollinate them or (grosser method) place dog crap under the tree to attract the flies this year is the first year I have had two trees flower but our late frost killed the ones I pollinated so no pawpaws for me this year, you also need two genetically different trees to cross pollinate with

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ethylene gas
« on: August 13, 2021, 09:07:10 AM »
will give the passionfruit a try I have some flavorless maypops growing and they are the same family so it should work and I have some old cold frame covers large enough to tent with. thanks

Tropical Fruit Discussion / ethylene gas
« on: August 13, 2021, 04:37:22 AM »
ethylene gas will force a pineapple plants to fruit, does anyone know if will it work the same way on other citrus/fruiting trees or plants.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Volume of water
« on: August 13, 2021, 04:32:30 AM »
I had similar problem with chemicals in my water. For non tropicals I let my water sit out overnight that will remove chlorine but I have found that my citrus is way more sensitive to the chemicals and the ph, I fill a large food grade container with hose water and let it sit in the sun then I add white vinegar to lower the ph. I let my citrus dry out until I can stick my finger in the soil and it is dry to the second knuckle of my first finger then water until it comes out of the drainage holes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wild Paw Paw
« on: August 13, 2021, 03:58:35 AM »
I have 4 growing in my yard, I love pawpaws, they take a long time from seed but are worth the wait, but you will have to hand pollinate if you want fruit. the flowers are pollinated by carrion flies not bees.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: basalt
« on: August 13, 2021, 03:52:10 AM »
thank you, I bought a large bag of basalt dust and might try to grow another cacao without it to see if there is any difference. I broke down and called my former biology professor who basically told me the same thing about the difference between basalt and granite, he added that tropical plants are, in general, acid loving and that the minerals would break down faster in acid soil making the nutrients more readily available slowly over time. He brought up campari tomatos that are grown in heavily volcanic soil in italy and their superior flavor that is attributed to the soil they are grown in so it might be that the fruit flavor is affected by the additional minerals. again thanks to everyone for your help, I have gone overboard with the tropicals since I picked my first lemon 4 years ago, but tropical plants are to gardening what baking is to cooking and my citrus trees have flipped me the bird several times.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Potting Mix/Dirt
« on: August 12, 2021, 01:39:44 PM »
it is cheaper if you make your own

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: basalt
« on: August 12, 2021, 12:37:47 PM »
thank you, do you know if the minerals provided are specific to tropical plants or would sub tropical plants benefit (significantly) I watched a bunch of youtube videos but its either Yay basalt is great or Boo basalt is a scam. My little cacao seedling seems very healthy especially since it has never seen sunlight (grow light) after watching tons of youtube videos I was expecting some brown edges but so far nothing but green. I am considering adding it to my soil for my black sapotes and cherimoya as long as it doesn't throw off my ph too much as I have just gotten my large sapote to bud extra branches and do not want to do anything to set it back.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: basalt
« on: August 12, 2021, 07:44:20 AM »
thank you, I have a bag of vermiculite that I use for my other container trees. The basalt I ordered was in dust form, it just seemed like the mix used a lot of it (2lbs basalt dust, 2lbs sand, 4lbs of coco coir potting mix and a handful of dried chicken manure) I sprinkled a little bit on my other trees but was concerned that it might throw my ph balance off. I would normally use peat in my sandy mix. figured if the basalt mix was ok for cacao I could use if for coffee trees but wasn't sure it would be ok for anything else.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / basalt
« on: August 12, 2021, 06:06:22 AM »
My brother in law is from guatemala and has gotten me hooked on growing cacao. His sister has a criollo cacao in guatemala and he recently brought back seeds so now I have a nice little seedling cacao tree and I bought a forastero because I had read that you need two different trees to get fruit (even though he insists that you do not). My question is about basalt, I bought some for the cacao tree because I wanted to use the same mix that my BIL uses which is potting mix, sand and basalt (with a little chicken manure). He is adamant that the cacao needs this and the picture of his sister's trees look beautiful. Why would basalt make such a big difference?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing cacao criollo here?
« on: August 12, 2021, 04:34:13 AM »
I have criollo, forastero and unknown from beans from hawaii. White seeds do not mean that they are criollo, white seeds are a genetic anomaly that can occur in cacao plants.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: light vs heat
« on: August 08, 2021, 04:36:00 AM »
Thank you, going to be tight squeeze in the greenhouse but I can keep it over 60 so I think I will go that route

Tropical Fruit Discussion / light vs heat
« on: August 06, 2021, 04:46:55 AM »
I have two indoor areas that I plan on overwintering tropicals/other in. One is a small south facing lean to greenhouse that gets natural light but not as easy to keep warm (attached to living space plus supplemented with radiant heat from a chicken coup heater, (not large enough for heat sinks or stove as it is only 4x8) the other is our walk out basement that I am in the process of setting up a grow room in, it has baseboard heat so can be kept warm but only has one small south facing window so I am planning on using grow lights for light source on a timer. I have citrus, black sapote, banana, loquat sweetsop, cherimoya, ice cream bean and miracle berry. humidity is not a problem with either as I have humidifiers for both. I was planning on either one or the other for my tropicals as I also overwinter my peppers and rosemary which are not picky as long as I keep the temp around 50. which would be the best choice for my tropicals? Please and thank you

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Where to buy citrus online (USA)
« on: August 06, 2021, 04:22:00 AM »
newbie here, I noticed was not on the list, any problems with this nursery? I bought a black sapote from them and it came in very good condition did I just get lucky? I was planning on buying from them again

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: August 03, 2021, 11:27:23 AM »
southern ohio gardener zone 6. in process of setting up grow room in basement along with small lean to greenhouse. Have cherimoya, sugar apple, black sapote, miracle berry plant, ice cream bean, kumquats, grapefruit, blood oranges, key lime and meyer lemon and banana plant. I also overwinter all my pepper plants as well as figs and persimmons that, while not strictly speaking tropical, are outside my zone.

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