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Citrus => Cold Hardy Citrus => Topic started by: maesy on April 18, 2018, 05:44:46 AM
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Is anybody growing a clemyuz 3-3?
How are your experiences in terms of cold hardiness and fruit qualitiy?
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It's a lot less vigorous growing than it's parent yuzu. I had a small plant inside a greenhouse, and we had an extremely mild Winter, and the leaves still got trashed. I mean they looked really bad, even though most of them did not fall off. That's not necessarily an indication of its cold hardiness though. I noticed some cold hardy citrus varieties are quick to drop leaves at the slightest bit of cold, and it's probably a protection strategy, to go into dormancy to avoid possible damage if temperatures get colder later.
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It's said to be very hardy, but with being 50% yuzu and 50% clementine
is that hard to belive.
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Very slow growing plant, dead after -9C this winter.
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Mine was planted out three years ago. Maybe not at the best place. It was very good protected in winter but without any artificial heating.
The result was, that is died back down to two inches above grafting point.
We had probably around -10 c/10f, but with its good protection, I didn't expect that much damage.
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Ilya, is yours also from Eisenhut?
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No, it was a 5 years old seedling.
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Here it is in the ground
(https://s14.postimg.cc/63nwmtd99/20180423_163312.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/63nwmtd99/)
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Isn't there a second variety of the Clemyuz called 2-2?
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Yes, there is and I believe it is said to ripen earlier.
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3-3 overall tree growth is similar to 2-2 but my 2-2 was slightly more vigorous. 3-3 fruit is very juicy, looks tasty and has a more tightly adhered rind than 2-2 but 3-3's flavor is terrible even for me who has grown a lot of hardy citrus. It has too much of a kerosene/skunky flavor. I grafted over my 3-3 years ago. 2-2 is way better fruit in terms of hardy citrus flavor and is indeed a earlier ripening fruit. It is just sourish until fully ripe then it is okay. Keraji, MIC and Lemandarin are levels above either 3-3 or 2-2 if you are able to grow them.
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Yuzu is actually very cold hardy, but perhaps more important than that it's also very vigorous growing and can bounce back after damage, or in more northerly climates start growing soon after temperatures begin warming up.
Clem-yuz is noticably less vigorous than yuzu though.
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ClemYuz 3-3 is also known as Ten Degree tangerine. Its principle downfall, is that it matures so very late (around Christmas) therefore the fruit is frequently damage by November and December freezes.
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ClemYuz 3-3 is also known as Ten Degree tangerine. Its principle downfall, is that it matures so very late (around Christmas) therefore the fruit is frequently damage by November and December freezes.
It may hold some value to further breeding though. I was thinking a cross with an early ripening mandarin like Fallglo or Xie Shan.
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I have never cared much for Fallglo, but a cross with Xie Shan might lead to something.
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But then again, why not use the 2-2 for that cross?
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Good point Florian. Using Clem-Yuzu 2-2 as the cross could give fruit of larger size and perhaps a sweeter taste. Maybe earlier maturing.
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Are there any new experiences to the fruits and frost hardiness of clemyuz 2-2 or3-3 of some members ?
@ maesy, any update to your 3-3 ? Thank you