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Citrus => Cold Hardy Citrus => Topic started by: maesy on April 18, 2018, 05:44:46 AM

Title: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: maesy on April 18, 2018, 05:44:46 AM
Is anybody growing a clemyuz 3-3?

How are your experiences in terms of cold hardiness and fruit qualitiy?

Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: SoCal2warm on April 19, 2018, 12:55:05 AM
It's a lot less vigorous growing than it's parent yuzu. I had a small plant inside a greenhouse, and we had an extremely mild Winter, and the leaves still got trashed. I mean they looked really bad, even though most of them did not fall off. That's not necessarily an indication of its cold hardiness though. I noticed some cold hardy citrus varieties are quick to drop leaves at the slightest bit of cold, and it's probably a protection strategy, to go into dormancy to avoid possible damage if temperatures get colder later.
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: maesy on April 19, 2018, 01:26:44 AM
It's said to be very hardy, but with being 50% yuzu and 50% clementine
is that hard to belive.
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: Ilya11 on April 19, 2018, 03:09:33 AM
Very slow growing plant, dead after -9C this winter.
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: maesy on April 19, 2018, 03:20:32 AM
Mine was planted out three years ago. Maybe not at the best place. It was very good protected in winter but without any artificial heating.
The result was, that is died back down to two inches above grafting point.

We had probably around -10 c/10f, but with its good protection, I didn't expect that much damage.
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: maesy on April 19, 2018, 04:23:47 AM
Ilya, is yours also from Eisenhut?
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: Ilya11 on April 19, 2018, 07:56:33 AM
No, it was a 5 years old seedling.
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: SoCal2warm on April 23, 2018, 07:34:54 PM
Here it is in the ground

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Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: Zitrusgaertner on April 25, 2018, 06:01:23 PM
Isn't there a second variety of the Clemyuz called 2-2?
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: Florian on April 26, 2018, 12:10:43 PM
Yes, there is and I believe it is said to ripen earlier.
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: eyeckr on May 26, 2018, 03:38:32 PM
3-3 overall tree growth is similar to 2-2 but my 2-2 was slightly more vigorous. 3-3 fruit is very juicy, looks tasty and has a more tightly adhered rind than 2-2 but 3-3's flavor is terrible even for me who has grown a lot of hardy citrus. It has too much of a kerosene/skunky flavor. I grafted over my 3-3 years ago. 2-2 is way better fruit in terms of hardy citrus flavor and is indeed a earlier ripening fruit. It is just sourish until fully ripe then it is okay. Keraji, MIC and Lemandarin are levels above either 3-3 or 2-2 if you are able to grow them.
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: SoCal2warm on June 26, 2018, 07:40:14 PM
Yuzu is actually very cold hardy, but perhaps more important than that it's also very vigorous growing and can bounce back after damage, or in more northerly climates start growing soon after temperatures begin warming up.

Clem-yuz is noticably less vigorous than yuzu though.
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: Millet on June 26, 2018, 10:10:07 PM
ClemYuz 3-3 is also known as Ten  Degree tangerine.  Its principle downfall, is that it matures so very late (around Christmas) therefore the fruit is frequently damage by November and December freezes.
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: SoCal2warm on June 26, 2018, 11:34:44 PM
ClemYuz 3-3 is also known as Ten  Degree tangerine.  Its principle downfall, is that it matures so very late (around Christmas) therefore the fruit is frequently damage by November and December freezes.
It may hold some value to further breeding though. I was thinking a cross with an early ripening mandarin like Fallglo or Xie Shan.
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: Millet on June 27, 2018, 12:02:05 AM
I have never cared much for Fallglo, but a cross with Xie Shan might lead to something.
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: Florian on June 27, 2018, 09:21:00 AM
But then again, why not use the 2-2 for that cross?
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: Millet on June 27, 2018, 11:42:19 AM
Good point Florian.  Using Clem-Yuzu 2-2 as the cross could give fruit of larger size and perhaps a sweeter taste.  Maybe earlier maturing.
Title: Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
Post by: tedburn on August 30, 2022, 02:56:52 PM
Are there any new experiences to the fruits and frost hardiness of clemyuz 2-2  or3-3 of some members  ?
@ maesy, any update to your 3-3 ? Thank you