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Citrus General Discussion / Re: lumpy oranges?
« on: February 05, 2026, 11:22:05 AM »
Could it be related to the short, large downpours california experienced in November/December?  We had lots of water briefly, the fruit was certainly developing then, although the other two citrus are fine..

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Citrus General Discussion / lumpy oranges?
« on: February 05, 2026, 11:19:19 AM »
My friend's yard has a lemon tree, a bear's lime tree, and an orange tree (unknown variety) next to each other in the ground in los angeles california area.  All three have produced normal looking fruit over the years, however, this year the orange tree produced lumpy, and uneven coloring affecting most of the fruits, some of the color was very orange other parts were less orange.  When peeling, some of the pulp sticks to the rind which also seems a little thinner than previous years, fruit tastes normal and good.  Most of the fruit was this way, but not all.  The lemon and lime are fine, no issues.

Any ideas what causes this?  I've searched a bit but didn't really find anything concrete other than typical "stress" "watering habits" and "nutrient" issues, oddly I cannot find some that look like these.





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Received, thank you  8)

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I would like a little if there will be any left :)  Thank you!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Pineapple Variety: Dole Colada Royale
« on: November 16, 2025, 05:51:07 PM »
It could just be placebo because of the name and brain playing tricks on me .  It's super faint, and again, only when inhaling while taking a bite along the core.  Otherwise, it tastes like a nice pineapple.  Worth a try I think.  :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Pineapple Variety: Dole Colada Royale
« on: November 16, 2025, 01:24:46 PM »
Gelson's seems to carry them.  Their selection looked a little rough, even the honeyglows which are usually a lot peppier looking.  It looks like the Coladas may have been picked a bit under ripe.  They were all on the smaller side, and all were covered in scale.  Off-white cream flesh and core is thin, easy to chew/eat.  Flavor was mildly sweet, well balanced tartness but not sour, and did have an almost suntan-lotion coconut flavor, mostly at the core if you breath in as you take a bite, but not sure that was placebo.  So many seeds, too!  I think it was about $10 - I was buying other over-priced groceries there and didn't get a receipt, just eyeballing my credit card.

I am not sure I am going to grow the top, I'm worried about the scale getting into my plants.  Maybe I'll drown the top in water/soap for a few hours... ?  I'll try seeds but those take a very long time in my locale.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: September 22, 2025, 01:32:45 PM »
I don't know, we'll see.  My Cheese Pine did exactly that: no ratoons, slips, or pups, and after I removed the fruit, I completely forgot about the plant, didn't even water it, and rediscovered it a couple months later, dry, with two pups that successfully took.  So maybe..?
I'll hold onto the plant through the winter and see what happens.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: September 21, 2025, 10:58:46 PM »
My paun (puan?) pineapple went full yellow three days ago.  No slips or pups.  Sadly the fruit did not grow large, it's about the size of a fist and the rind/eyes didn't smooth out.  I think I have figured out for future to grow healthier plants. 

I waited to harvest until today, so really pushed the "ripe" part.  Aroma wasn't really noticeable until cut from the plant.  It was sweet, mild tartness, and slightly salty.  I found the last part interesting... did not know fruit could be salty?
Not sure if this was a paun.  It has no slips or pups or ratoons, and was so tiny.  Ah well, it was fun.  On to the next one :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: September 13, 2025, 11:46:53 AM »
My paun (puan?) pineapple went full yellow three days ago.  No slips or pups.  Sadly the fruit did not grow large, it's about the size of a fist and the rind/eyes didn't smooth out.  I think I have figured out for future to grow healthier plants. 

The fruit has no aroma yet.  Given its size, it probably will be just mediocre.  Harvest now or give it a few more days hoping for aroma?



My other pineapple plants are growing better, having better success with healthier looking leaves using plastic pots vs the grow bags, and changing up the planting mix to use less peat.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical fruit bush options
« on: April 09, 2025, 10:25:07 AM »
Blackberry jam fruit?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cacao for sale at H-Mart
« on: February 22, 2025, 01:30:32 PM »
Unfortunately, none of my seeds made it.. they all had little roots poking out after a 12 hour soak, and when I put them into a humidity seed starter tray with a heating pad, within 24 hours there was some white, fibrous growth.  I sprayed half with diluted peroxide and half with physan 20.. both killed whatever it was, it all appeared again in a couple days, and so was repeated. 
This past week all the roots went from white to brown and rotted. Oh, well.  Some day I'll move someplace where cacao grows and I can make my own tree to bar :)  It was fun to try!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cacao for sale at H-Mart
« on: February 12, 2025, 02:44:15 PM »
Congrats!  How's it taste?
The premier chocolate refiner (a tricked out wet grinder) isn't too pricey.  I've had mine for ~10 years, it's a lot of fun to whip out a couple times a year and makes for some seriously amazing silky textures, but omg what a pain to clean.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cacao for sale at H-Mart
« on: February 07, 2025, 10:35:19 AM »
I think you can do it with a blender but it’s probably very annoying

Most folks who venture into chocolate making try this only once for a reason :)  There are plenty of other forums that go into chocolate making, and you can search if you are interested.  I don't recommend chocolate making at home because it is time consuming, messy, and wasteful.  I still do it, I have the right equipment, and enjoy it 2-3x a year to make a dozen bars of chocolate each time - I purchase a few kilos of beans ready to roast from a few online vendors/brokers.  A pod or two of cacao is like what greg_D wrote, a novelty.  Having a few trees full of pods, now that's goals one day I hope to achieve.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cacao for sale at H-Mart
« on: February 06, 2025, 11:02:03 AM »
H-Mart in Irvine (westpark location) had some.  I took the largest, weighed in about 3lbs, the other two were very small.  Cost ~$20, I've never had this and unfortunately I won't be anywhere near ripe cacao fruit anytime in the next couple years.  "Cacao on the Cob", from "Sweet Seasons", produced by Hacienda Laia Margarita in Ecuador.

The flesh covering the seeds was very minimal, slimy, had a mild aroma of floral perfume similar to lychee, rose, etc.  Flavor was new to me, though reminded me of cherimoya first, then very mildly of fruits similar to lychee and rombutan and maybe mangosteen (been a while). 

Since I roast and make chocolate from cacao beans as an occasional hobby, I tried some of the seeds raw.  Super bitter, more so than their roasted counterparts.  Kind of a raisin/fig/dried-brown fruit flavor.

I also tasted the rind part.. it had no flavor, and as I chopped it up for the compost, it reminded me of a gourd so I tried roasting it.  After ~7 minutes, it changed to a dark grey color and softened up.  The taste reminded me of taro or generic tuber.  It was okay with salt I suppose.  No aroma.

I did eat all the "pulp" best I could, but couldn't get it all off, so peeled half the seeds and left the other half in the slimy coating.  Soaked overnight, all have little nubbies not sticking out.  I peeled the rest this morning.  Took about 45 minutes and my fingers are cramped up.  Total 45 seeds.  I read they have a tendency to mold quick, so I gave a 5-min soak in physan 20. 

Should I try growing these?  I don't have a greenhouse.  Coastal so cal Zone 10a.  I've read most people don't have luck.  As a houseplant it sounds interesting, however, though I used to have high humidity in my house that changed a couple years ago when I began using central air.  So.. hmmm.  Alternate is to roast and make chocolate, but now that they have a little root sticking out, no sure that is good idea.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lilikoi - Which Ones Do You Grow
« on: January 24, 2025, 11:33:11 AM »
I've always been under the impression one should wait for the outside of the fruit to become wrinkled before opening it up to eat.. interesting!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: starting coffee from washed green seeds
« on: November 07, 2024, 04:32:23 PM »
Brian: several years ago the local Trader Joe's and Aldi stores carried seedlings for a few $, but they were random, unknown types, and I was super busy so I passed at the time.  Today I am hoping to find specific varietals, as my goal is more than just fruit, I'd like to experience the whole "make my own coffee" thing others have pursued and tired of :)
Daintree, cool!  I'll reach out to you by PM.
Seanny: yeah, I figured that's the best way, meantime I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to get the processed seeds to get past the root-nubby stage without rotting.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / starting coffee from washed green seeds
« on: November 06, 2024, 02:46:16 PM »
Hi!
I have read the ideal way to grow coffee from seed is via its fresh cherries, and that the processing coffee seeds go through ((washed, honey, natural, anerobic, etc) potentially reduces the chance of successful germination - note, I'm not talking about roasted coffee here, but rather the greens.  I've also read it takes a long time for them to germinate, 2+ months.

Last year I purchased a couple pounds of green coffee that was organic, washed process, from a generally low elevation, and recently harvested.  The idea here was that I was trying to get close to the same environment (I'm at sea level), and the recent harvest with washed greens means minimally processed, so hopefully this maximizes my chance of success.

The seeds are soaked in water overnight, and a large percentage of them develop a tiny little white nubby which looks like a root.  I then transfer these to a planting medium.  Within a few days, they completely rot out.  I have tried a variety of techniques to sanitize the seeds, sanitize the growing medium, different growing mediums, planting shallow, planting deep, etc, ever since last year.  I have found others have had such difficulty, and recommendation is always to get fresh cherries.

Doesn't look good thus far, so thought I'd check here with folks who may have better experiences or offer other suggestions. 

Thoughts?  Should I just try sourcing some fresh cherries locally, or perhaps find someone with seedlings instead of growing one from seed myself?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: June 12, 2024, 06:21:37 PM »
Hi!  Late October 2023 my Cheese Pine variety began blooming.  Its eyes did not smooth out like other pineapples as it developed.

I picked it today, very aromatic.  Softball sized.  Mildly sweet, slightly dry for a pineapple, and no sourness at all.  I'm not sure if this is the variety or that it grew outside here in coastal so cal over the winter with nothing but marine layer and cool temps.  I did enjoy the pineapple. 

All that said, I think I'm going to stop growing pineapples until I have a larger property and room for a green house.  The plants look terrible coming out of winter.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Persian Mulberry Fruits - in SoCal
« on: January 29, 2024, 07:47:57 PM »
Okay, thank you!  The sour, small sectioned one (not pictured) must be the persion mulberry.  That plant has not been growing well for us, I'll try to get it growing better.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Persian Mulberry Fruits - in SoCal
« on: January 29, 2024, 06:46:49 PM »
Hi all, does this look like a persian mulberry?  Photos from last april/may, and the fruit was very delicious, great combination of sweet and tart.

There's another tree in the yard that has an even smaller fruit, and the little bobbles on it are larger and have little fronds sticking out from them, but they were rather sour.  There were a number of what I think are pakistani mulberries, 3-6" long fruit, pretty sweet but virtually no tartness.

Thank you for looking.






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If you don't have the vegetable beds properly prepped, won't the mango roots eventually over-run the beds?  I don't know what their root systems are like, I'm dealing with this issue with other trees in my family's yard.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: December 18, 2023, 01:54:19 PM »
We're right on six months and my costco or whole foods pineapple has begun to change color from green to yellow-green this week :)  I don't smell anything yet, taking a whiff daily, so, almost ripe, right? 


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: October 27, 2023, 05:20:31 PM »
Tropicaltoba: it's not very tall, and the leaves are mostly short - last winter was rough and I cut most back, probably why the pineapple is so small.  The trunk's diameter is nearly six inches.

My cheesepine began the flower/fruit phase the first of October, here is is now.  I'm kind of bummed because it means it will ripen over winter here, bah.  All the plants look great through the summer but are going to get pretty beat up in the winter here.  Would it make sense to maybe bring this cheesepine indoors?  Or just leave it outside?



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: October 27, 2023, 12:39:21 PM »
This small one's now five months.  It looks almost ready, I'm sniffing it daily waiting for the aromatic fragrance, but, likely needs one more month, right?  I'm rotating the pot every few days to even out exposure to sun (or actual lack thereof).  I'm pretty sure this is one of the MD2 types from costa rica, likely costco purchase.  I don't think they turn the same, full yellow color like the Maui gold ones?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal Tropical Storm Watch
« on: August 21, 2023, 12:08:46 PM »
Wasn't as bad as last year's storm where I'm at (coastal south OC).  After no ants for a year, overnight, they invaded and my entire floor is covered in them, ugh.  Guess they wanted out of the rain.

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