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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: mikesid on April 02, 2014, 11:34:50 AM
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This Honey Kiss mango is a tree in Walter Zill's grove. It is a dwarf, late season tree. It will fruit in clusters much of the time and is a heavy, reliable, bearer. Walter said it has very good lateral branching and makes a nice canopy. The ones I tired early last year were a little washed out but the late seasons were excellent.
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I saw the Honey Kiss mango tree's (grafted) for sale in Bangkok. Hope to taste one soon.
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I saw the Honey Kiss mango tree's (grafted) for sale in Bangkok. Hope to taste one soon.
I have serious doubts that we are talking the same tree.
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Looks like its going to be a big tree- its its the tree Im thinking of, its grown a low since last year.
I like the name; very appropriate
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I saw the Honey Kiss mango tree's (grafted) for sale in Bangkok. Hope to taste one soon.
I have serious doubts that we are talking the same tree.
Well i also doubt that but i saw them on a big fruit fair in a treeshop who only sells new variety's.
Is it a new developed variety and highly searched for? Then probably we are talking about the same one....Last year i saw Summer Snow mango for sale in that same shop, Summer Snow is only in Australia if i recall well.
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I saw the Honey Kiss mango tree's (grafted) for sale in Bangkok. Hope to taste one soon.
I have serious doubts that we are talking the same tree.
Well i also doubt that but i saw them on a big fruit fair in a treeshop who only sells new variety's.
Is it a new developed variety and highly searched for? Then probably we are talking about the same one....Last year i saw Summer Snow mango for sale in that same shop, Summer Snow is only in Australia if i recall well.
For now, except for a few private collectors, this is a tree in an individual's private yard and has not been propagated on any scale where it would have wound up across the ocean to where it was propagated for sale.
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Looks like its going to be a big tree- its its the tree Im thinking of, its grown a low since last year.
I like the name; very appropriate
Definitely not a big tree. A very compact grower. I would not say its a dwarf either, maybe along the lines of Carrie in compactness and possibly a tad smaller than Carrie size-wise. As Mike said, it bears heavy and in clusters, weighing the branches down to where they weep with the weight of the mangoes. It doesn't however seem to have the breakage issue that I have seen with Duncan when it is overloaded with fruit.
Again, it can be picked mature green but will ripen much better and with peak flavor is left on the tree until it begins to or heavily obtains its yellow/golden base color. When its allowed to color up on the tree, the texture and flavor will be amazing and a distinct honey taste is present.
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I saw the Honey Kiss mango tree's (grafted) for sale in Bangkok. Hope to taste one soon.
I have serious doubts that we are talking the same tree.
Well i also doubt that but i saw them on a big fruit fair in a treeshop who only sells new variety's.
Is it a new developed variety and highly searched for? Then probably we are talking about the same one....Last year i saw Summer Snow mango for sale in that same shop, Summer Snow is only in Australia if i recall well.
For now, except for a few private collectors, this is a tree in an individual's private yard and has not been propagated on any scale where it would have wound up across the ocean to where it was propagated for sale.
Well i have no idea how it is possible. This shop seems to have the newest mango variety's every year. No idea if they sell the real deal or just copy the name or any other trick. New variety tree's cost 10 times more then common ones and this shop only sells the expensive ones.
They had more new variety's but i had never heard of them.
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BK, perhaps you mixed up names with "honey gold" from Australia? Summer snow is from Taiwan.
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The trees that were recently propagated were labeled "43-26", I was surprised to see a number that would seem to indicate a column/row selection? That would hypothetically be a tree in slot 1118.
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Carrie a small tree . I have seen old trees 35 feet tall.
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Well i have no idea how it is possible. This shop seems to have the newest mango variety's every year. No idea if they sell the real deal or just copy the name or any other trick. New variety tree's cost 10 times more then common ones and this shop only sells the expensive ones.
They had more new variety's but i had never heard of them.
It's not the same mango you saw. I can guarantee is 100%. It's either a different mango with the same name or as someone else suggested a mango with a similar name but it is definitely not the same Honey Kiss that Walter Zill is selling.
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Allright i guess it is not the same then. I will check that stand next fair again.
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The trees that were recently propagated were labeled "43-26", I was surprised to see a number that would seem to indicate a column/row selection? That would hypothetically be a tree in slot 1118.
any idea how many were propagated? Was budwood from walter's tree grafted onto a tree in the field? Why would it have a row #, if it was just a private tree (just curious, not debating)?
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The trees that were recently propagated were labeled "43-26", I was surprised to see a number that would seem to indicate a column/row selection? That would hypothetically be a tree in slot 1118.
any idea how many were propagated? Was budwood from walter's tree grafted onto a tree in the field? Why would it have a row #, if it was just a private tree (just curious, not debating)?
That was its field planting number in Gary Zill's breeding program.
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Honey Kiss is a pretty nice tasting mango. To my buds, it sits on the milder end of mango flavor spectrum: sweet, sunny, vaguely "tropical"
If I had to pick just one variety (based on taste alone) that had the potential to be a mainstream success, something that would sell at Whole Foods and become widely-accepted among normal consumer tastes ... I would bet the farm on Honey Kiss.
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5 years later this is still the best info on Honey Kiss available online
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Had a lot of powdery mildew this year
None on Honey Kiss
Next to Phoenix which had it bad
Cotton Candy was spotless
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First year my honey kiss is fruiting, about 2 years in the ground and it is loaded. Will definitely have to cull of some fruitlets to avoid branches snapping.
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First year my honey kiss is fruiting, about 2 years in the ground and it is loaded. Will definitely have to cull of some fruitlets to avoid branches snapping.
My Honey Kiss is also two years old. It has set only a few fruit, which is okay. At least, I'll get to taste them. (And first year for Maha Chanok fruit--not a lot, but more than Honey Kiss. My two workhorses, Pickering and Angie, are once again loaded.)
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5 years later this is still the best info on Honey Kiss available online
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QuFA_3myGU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QuFA_3myGU)
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Anyone else find HK a bit more susceptible to fungus or scale?
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I have been testing the new Zills at my place so I have let them go without spray until I can telll more about them
The Phoenix would have lost its entire crop and had to spray it
Next to it the Honey Kiss had none
Might be other problems but pm isn’t one of them
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I have been testing the new Zills at my place so I have let them go without spray until I can telll more about them
The Phoenix would have lost its entire crop and had to spray it
Next to it the Honey Kiss had none
Might be other problems but pm isn’t one of them
my honey kiss is the same, right next to it is my orange essence which had problem with black spot earlier and it always looks kind of chlorotic. Phoenix is always green and clean
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I little HK is looking happy tiny though , I Belive I hand washed the black sooty mold with soapy water , once or twice .
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I have been testing the new Zills at my place so I have let them go without spray until I can telll more about them
The Phoenix would have lost its entire crop and had to spray it
Next to it the Honey Kiss had none
Might be other problems but pm isn’t one of them
At our farm with no spray Phoenix was noticeably more susceptible to disease. I wont be planting or propagating any more.
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I have been testing the new Zills at my place so I have let them go without spray until I can telll more about them
The Phoenix would have lost its entire crop and had to spray it
Next to it the Honey Kiss had none
Might be other problems but pm isn’t one of them
This year at our farm with no spray Phoenix was noticeably more susceptible to disease. I wont be planting or propagating any more.
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Taste wonderful however so I’ll take care of it from the beginning from now till it’s becomes a major pain to grow it
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Taste wonderful however so I’ll take care of it from the beginning from now till it’s becomes a major pain to grow it
Honey Kiss or Phoenix, which one?
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Phoenix has problems
Honey Kiss next door clean
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I am in cali and really want to grow a Honey Kiss. Seems like nobody sell it here, and online only Plantogram has it for $119 non including shipping fee. By I read some bad reviews about Plantogram including the variety not true to the name.
Does anyone know where to buy honey kiss here or who will be able to ship it here?
Thanks in advance
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I am in cali and really want to grow a Honey Kiss. Seems like nobody sell it here, and online only Plantogram has it for $119 non including shipping fee. By I read some bad reviews about Plantogram including the variety not true to the name.
Does anyone know where to buy honey kiss here or who will be able to ship it here?
Thanks in advance
contact pine island nursery in homestead, they're certified to ship to california
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thanks, @Das Bhut
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Tasted the very first Honey Kiss from my tree today. It was small with a red blush. Flavor is classic mango with floral and citrus notes. Very sweet, too, and much better than the one I tasted at Walter's in 2016. I really like this mango and am glad I planted it. It's 2 years old and has grown to 10 feet. So much for being a slow grower in the same league as Pickering! It IS a bushy and compact tree.
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Would anyone care to compare the flavor of this with Angie, Carrie, Nam Doc Mai, Mallika, Dwarf Hawaiian or Edward?
Or, as a bunny trail Carrie with Angie? Some people on FB said they can't taste a difference between Angie and Carrie.
Thanks.