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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are there dwarf loquats
« on: November 23, 2023, 08:33:21 AM »
What Kaz said, but leave one branch of the seedling (un-grafted shoot) to see what your seedling produces.
I had a tree in the ground must have been 8 plus years before it fruited from the seedling, grafted varieties had been fruiting for a few years.  When the seedling fruited, it was a very excellent fruit.  Great tase and nice size.

This way, you both eat your cake and have it :)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / ended
« on: November 18, 2023, 07:17:50 AM »
Ended



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida weather South Southwest and Central
« on: November 14, 2023, 05:57:22 PM »
Expected to be heavier tomorrow.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Yangmei Giveaway
« on: November 13, 2023, 11:33:25 AM »
38 or 52. What is RKN? Donít know much about yangmei
Did you get an answer to your question, I assumed Root Knot Nematode.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rabbit discourager
« on: November 12, 2023, 08:07:37 PM »
Thanks, I will have to try higher cage for plants. 


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How do fruit trees in your neighborhood fruit like this?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Rabbit discourager
« on: November 11, 2023, 01:05:42 PM »
There are tons of rabbit in my area and around this time of year I often see young plants with the back completely stripped or in some cases gnawed in half.

It has been terrible the last few days and i  have lost at least 6 seedlings (they particularly love Chempajack they eat those to a stump).  They have gone after mango, gnawed a few in half and removed the bark of an in ground 2 year old plant.  In the past they never went after anything that big.

In cases where I wrapped or protected the plant they must have tiptoed and did the damage above the cage.

If there something I can spray on the plants to keep the rabbits away?

Interested in any suggestions other than making them rabbit stew or trapping and relocating There are way too many).





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 not sure some of those are graft compatible.

You might want to check to see what works. 

I will start with Cherimoya since most things can graft to it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Whatís up with my rollinia?
« on: November 09, 2023, 07:49:43 PM »
Is it shaded?

I did an unintended experiment.  I planted two potted seedlings from the same batch, one in some shade and the other in more direct sunlight.  The shaded one lost some leaves and had some dieback.  I am sure there are other factors including different soils and perhaps competition from the roots of the plants shading it but shade may be a factor.
This time of year the angle of the sun is different and lower in the sky, could it be getting more shade ?

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Other than taste, any opinions based on pollination and production?

I have been happy with PPC, Lisa and Birula (thought not this past year) for taste.  For production nothing has wowed me yet.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fuyu Persimmon Tree- Broke In Half
« on: November 05, 2023, 12:42:02 PM »
525

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote or June Plum?
« on: November 04, 2023, 11:17:28 AM »
Brian, I am familiar with both trees and you have a Redlands White Sapote. Although the exterior of a June plum is similar to your fruit, june plums have a large spiny seed that reminds me of the seed pods produced by a sweetgum tree. The Redlands at my Dad's produces fruits exactly like what you have. The seeds are always abortive and fruits are small. I finally realized that it needs a pollenator and grafted some other varieties to the tree about a year ago. I think that will solve the issue. I got most if them from Kaz and they grafted easily.
In here is your key, if the seed is spiny it is a June plum.  If not it is something else.

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I just watched the video and the cuttings he showed are not the same as the cuttings with growth at the end of the video.  Not to say the method doesn't work, just think it would have been better if he showed results of the same cuttings in the beginning of the video.  Also would have liked to see how the roots had formed on his cuts to confirm.

Janet
Hi Janet, I suppose you were commenting on the video I posted.
I was not vouching for his success but mine using a methods similar to what he showed with some important differences that I described.  I didn't mean to suggest that his approach worked, but that mine which was similar to his with those differences did.  Based on my success with a similar approach, I don't doubt his method and I am not as skeptical as I would be were I not doing something similar with good outcome.

I have used it successfully and have been able to share a guava that I like with a few friends on the forum. 
I believe one of them actually posted a picture of a started seedling still in its "dome."

Hope that helps


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This video is close to what I do but it is missing a couple of very important steps.

https://youtu.be/usTuFLEoyJ8?si=RzeeeBLo_eYH4ACT

First you are not cutting a wedge at the bottom just removing the bark on opposite sides about half an inch to one inch adjacent to a node.  I assume your roots come out at the node.

In place of the orange powder I use a root hormone.  To make the hole for you cutting, use a pencil or something  else with about the same diameter.  Gently push the soil against your cutting after placing it in the hole.  I don't know if this step is important but I do it.  At a minimum, I know it prevents the rooting hormone from being displaced which may occur if you push the cutting into the soil.

The most important missing information is how to keep the soil moist and the top humid.

In my case, I partially bury the cup in a larger pot to that the holes cut in the cup are below ground.  I create a dome above the cup with am old plastic bottle.  I usually will use a 2 liter soda bottle.  I cut off the base and push the bottle into the dirt covering the partially buried cup so that the bottle forms a dome over the cup. I can open or close the cap of the bottle to let in air or keep the humidity vey high.  To keep the soil in the cup moist I thoroughly water the pot (outside the dome) and the soil in the cup will pull what it needs from the pot. The soil in the pot should be a well draining soil and will usually be moist not wet.

I have a slight variant which works well too where I cut a bottle in half, plant in the lower half and use the upper half to make the humidity dome.

Considering some people can root guava in water, I am not sure how critical the moisture management is but it worked for me that way and I continued using that approach.

Good luck.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First year fertilizing my mangoes
« on: October 25, 2023, 08:22:16 PM »
Did you mean 0-0-50?

I read somplace not to use 0-0-60 with mango because of the salt but instead to use 0-0-50, yes they are different.

Check to confirm what you are using.  You want sulfate of potash (K2SO4) not Muriate of Potash (Potassium Chloride)


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango pruning
« on: October 22, 2023, 10:50:16 AM »
Is it going in the ground and will it have space to grow wide?

I ask because I suspect with its first big fruiting many of those thin long branches will lay down some.

If you don't have lots of space of want to keep it as compact as you can then you may need to give up on near term fruiting and make some major pruning cuts to try to shape the tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When and where to tip a mango
« on: September 26, 2023, 10:10:25 PM »
Looks like you want a bush and not a tree.
Check out this link  https://youtu.be/ZlhF-YphevA?si=D44LdQGTZZ7NOYmA

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: HELP: Topworking 5-ft. Mango Seedling
« on: September 24, 2023, 08:36:59 PM »
If I were to topowork this I will cut either at the yellow or orange line and wait for it to send 3 or 4 new branches.  I will graft the two varieties I was interested in to the regrowth.

In this case I will cut just above the internode and hope for 4 or more shoots that I can reduce to 3 or 4 to graft in to.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The ď Coffin ď Grafting Method ?
« on: September 22, 2023, 08:37:57 PM »
I know you are excited to see your raft take, but be patient and don't be messing with it. :)
Remember, there is almost nothing you can do to improve that graft now, but messing with it, there are a few things, perhaps many, you can do that will not be good for it.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Air layering Mango Trees?
« on: September 22, 2023, 08:31:12 PM »
By the way, in my case the airlayer took some time to fruit even though it was taken from a tree that had fruited several seasons.
I don't know why other than perhaps it was busy making roots sufficient to feed a tree its size.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Air layering Mango Trees?
« on: September 22, 2023, 08:23:45 PM »
Yes, I believe members have airlayered mango and posted about it on the forum.

If you do keep your airlayer and plant it in the ground, plant a seed next to and and do an approach graft after it grows to add a second root system with e tap root.  You may end up like me though and just keep the second tree, in my case it was very vigorous and is not bigger than the airlayerd tree which by the way, is doing well.  I grafted the variety and airlayered unto the seedling, added a couple more too.  Both tree are inches appart from each other.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=48202.msg466212#msg466212

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=2024.msg27744#msg27744

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Forcing mango to branch out
« on: September 17, 2023, 10:00:03 AM »
Search on YouTube for how to tip mango by Dr Campbel.
It shows how to tip to grow a mango bush vs a tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Good Florida atemoyas
« on: September 13, 2023, 07:50:07 PM »
Perhaps I will have a candidate for this post next year.

I have a seedling AP (I think it is AP) that is really good.  More on the purely sweet side with no tart.  Perhaps next season I will share some fruit around to get the opinion of others.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Thief Caught
« on: September 13, 2023, 07:45:28 PM »
..... I love when I get to share fruit, even with a stranger.

Noting beats gifting some nice fruits, ok there are things that are more fun including the stranger coming back to say thank you and sharing how they enjoyed the fruit, ... and getting to leave with even more or different fruits.

I love it and it happen often enough.

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