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Citrus General Discussion / Re: House in greenhouse. Citrus garden
« on: June 02, 2019, 09:43:20 AM »
Wow, that's really neat looking.  I'm still waiting for my variegated minneola's stripes to turn red.    I didn't realize there were  variegated varieties of so many types.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: House in greenhouse. Citrus garden
« on: June 02, 2019, 09:33:24 AM »
Those are Sanguinelli?  I thought Sanguinelli was very lightly colored and I've never seen stripes.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Tree Dieback??
« on: June 01, 2019, 02:45:47 PM »
I fought scale unsuccessfully for years using smothering sprays, but a strong application of systemic pesticide imidacloprid seems to have eradicated it.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Tree Dieback??
« on: June 01, 2019, 12:26:24 PM »
Usually when I've had twig dieback it was due to unchecked scale infestations

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: House in greenhouse. Citrus garden
« on: May 30, 2019, 05:58:24 PM »
That's really neat.  Is that your house?  You've already done this?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: PT seedlings growth rate
« on: May 30, 2019, 05:58:01 PM »
I've never tried soil to container, though I am about to for the first time.  I don't know how well it will work.   I can't imagine why it would not work.

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Sphagnum peat moss is readily available, I've never seen coco coir for sale in any retail outlet I've visited.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: greenhouse updates
« on: May 30, 2019, 03:45:46 PM »
EDIT - just realized you were asking Millet, sorry

My greenhouse soil is warm from retained solar heat.  I certainly don't heat the water.  The foundation is insulated all the way around with 2in foam board, to about 2ft below grade.

Even in winter soil is pretty warm.  I forget the temp but I was pleasantly suprised.  Warmer than the air for sure at night.


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: House in greenhouse. Citrus garden
« on: May 30, 2019, 03:41:00 PM »
Assuming zoning/building codes allowed something like this, excess heat would be the most immediate problem. 

There's a lot of good solutions for really efficient houses and greenhouses using nonstandard building techniques.   I couldn't even my local government to approve a foundation type specified in the national contruction code that they base their codes on - because they weren't familiar with it - a Frost Protected Shallow Foundation.

Insurer's wouldn't insure something like this either.

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I have a ton of moss growing around my property that I was planning to pull up and do *something* with.  I'm curious if moss around roots would contribute to rot the same way mulch is repoted to.

BTW, I think sphagnum moss is a particular type of moss that grows in peat bogs, and what you and I have is likely some other kind of moss.   I don't know much about it.  When people read sphagnum moss they likely think of the bagged non-living moss sold as a soil amendment.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: PT seedlings growth rate
« on: May 30, 2019, 09:48:57 AM »
My containerized PT/FD grow painfully slowly in small containers.  The ones I've put in rootmakers grow considerably faster.  I haven't planted them outside yet, but I suspect that would be even faster.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: greenhouse updates
« on: May 28, 2019, 06:47:18 PM »
I have a bunch of random tropical seedlings, plus tomatoes, peppers, jackfruit, guava, mango.  I think Millet has said he’s growing pineapples.

I have piped natural gas heat that is really cheap so its not terribly expensive to set 55F min and I am hoping it helps winter tree growth

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Very nice!   

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: greenhouse updates
« on: May 27, 2019, 10:40:55 AM »
I want to plant directly into the dirt so I can reclaim the 16” of height that the rootmaker containers consume.  Interior space is expensive!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: greenhouse updates
« on: May 27, 2019, 10:30:36 AM »
Thanks for the video, Laaz.  Funny to see him pulling up the same Acurite phone app I use.  I have thought about this type of greenhouse, and if it were not for township codes and resale value, I would have considered building a greenhouse like this inside the hill that spans my entire back yard.  It would be much more energy efficient as I could use a lot of water storage in the rear and rely on the insulation of the ground

alternate plan:



Also, I wonder if you just put LED lights in an insulated warehouse?   Might work just fine.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: clay soil amendments?
« on: May 26, 2019, 09:11:30 PM »
I ordered from ebay or etsy.  The seller sent me a couple whole fruits for $5, which gave me around 50 seeds

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: greenhouse updates
« on: May 26, 2019, 01:22:08 PM »
I poked a bunch of small holes anywhere water was pooling, and cut holes around the in-ground tree trunks.  I'm going to leave it this way for some time and see how it goes.

Soil temp was 75F @ 10am, and is now 80F @ 1pm.   I think this is fine.  I'll check again on a very hot day and again in the fall & winter.  According to http://calag.ucanr.edu/archive/?type=pdf&article=ca.v009n11p13 "the optimum temperature for citrus root growth is around 79F". and the soil will only get warmer as summer comes.  The only question is if I'm letting get too cool in winter.  I have my heaters set to 55F but I recall the soil stays warmer beacuse it is insulated and absorbs sun.


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: clay soil amendments?
« on: May 26, 2019, 01:20:50 PM »
Yes, I'm not sure if I want them or not.  I may simply practice grafting onto these and then use the FD stock once I get better at it

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: clay soil amendments?
« on: May 26, 2019, 11:37:23 AM »
I have a bunch of trifoliate seedlings, a mix of FD and non-contorted seedlings from the same batch of FD seeds.  I'm thinking I will start grafting my favorite varieties onto these and at some point replace the trees on c-35 with them

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: greenhouse updates
« on: May 26, 2019, 09:20:42 AM »
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What does the white cover do to your soil temperature? Might remain too cold?

Good question, I don't know yet.  I will have to take soil temp readings throughout the year and see (assuming I keep the white covering)

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This is going to be cramped in there once those trees get to size...

Yes... I am thinking I will try some severe pruning methods and perhaps slowly replant everything onto FD rootstock, which I have a ton of seedlings for.   Also, the ceiling is about 14ft high in the center row, so I could let the center row trees get the largest and prune the side trees smaller.  Not sure.   "too much" is always a fun problem to have.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Interesting...
« on: May 26, 2019, 09:14:53 AM »
If you need a citrus to frighten off children, I think buddha's hand has been dethroned

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: greenhouse updates
« on: May 25, 2019, 10:04:31 PM »
Millet, I thought about drain holes, but is it an issue that the material does not breath?  I know gravity will pull the drip irrigation water down, but wouldn't the mulch (and any roots) under the fabric stagnate and rot?  I could cut circles to expose ~3ft area around the in-ground tree trunks, but I'm not sure if leaving the remaining area without oxygen is a problem or not

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit any Good
« on: May 25, 2019, 02:19:53 PM »
It's $1.99 a pound here, and I'm fortunate I can find it at all.   Sometimes they sell slices or chunks instead of having to buy a whole fruit.

Jackfruit is possibly my favorite fruit.  My daughter loves it too.  Nobody else in my family likes it.  You'll just have to try and see.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: greenhouse updates
« on: May 25, 2019, 01:41:39 PM »
Nope, it didnt' drain at all.  What a waste.  It was expensive, too, and I ordered it last year so too late to return. 

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I recall there was a thread about this a year or so ago.  If I remember correctly the plants did fine for months but started to decline somewhat towards the end.  I don't know the final outcome.

I left all my trees in my dark basement for a month last winter when I was in India.  They did fine.  Temps were around 60F and I had my brother water them once or twice.

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