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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Thong Dee pomelo
« on: November 25, 2020, 12:34:09 PM »
thank you Luak, so I see your pomelos get higher temperature over winter than mine.
O.K. will see how my fruit comes out in Early spring and if they are not edible  ;), I have next winter
to give them higher temperatures.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Thong Dee pomelo
« on: November 25, 2020, 11:31:56 AM »
Hello Poncirusguy,
I also had the problem with ants at Kakis where they destroyed my fruits and I also had it in spring with the pomelo.
I could solve the problem by attaching a sort of pergament paper with two cable fasteners around the trunk.
The cable fasteners have a distance from the upper to the lower of about 5 cm.
The paper between the cable fasteners i brushed with a biological glue. Would like to post a pictures but currently I can' t upload  pictures.
But since I have this barrier I haven't seen even one ant at the so treated plants.
best regards Frank
No upload worked

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Thong Dee pomelo
« on: November 25, 2020, 10:49:15 AM »
thats quite interesting, thank you for the experiences.
What still would be interesting, on which temperature do you heat your growroom ?
How do you recognize that the pomelos are ripe ? If they change colour or if thy get soft on light pressing between the fingers ?
Due to my first fruitharvest I really still have no method I would wait even til January or Februar and then test one.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Thong Dee pomelo
« on: November 24, 2020, 02:30:06 PM »
Hello Luak,
nice pomelo tree (valentine?).
I'm in zone 7 and got in march a flowering about 2-3 feet tall Chandler pomelo.
I' m very enthusiastic by pomelos, but I only tested Honey pomelo up to now.
Now I had also 4 nice balls and currently there are 3 left. Due to no practical experience in pomelo cultivating
I hope that you could answer me a few questions, especially you seem to be in the same zone 7 than me.
Do you know Chandler pomelo and can compare it to valentine pomelo ?
Often it is discussed that in colder climates (zone7?) the pomelos get not enough sun hours/heat and so don't get sweet, what is your experience ?
Due to energy safing I keep my greenhouse in winter at about 32 degree Fahrenheit, against a lot of informations which recommend to keep pomelos in winter not less than 50 degree Fahrenheit, how do you overwinter your pomelo ?
I heard that Pomelos need 14 month for ripening but also that Chandler pomelos are early ripe beginning of January, what is the timespan to get ripe ?
How do you recognize that your pomelos are ripe ?
Sorry for all the questions, but I really enjoy my pomelo and look forward to test a ripe pomelo.
Due to curiosity I took one of the four pomelos in October and cut and testet it, but it surely wasn't ripe, what I even not expected, but I wanted to see and smell. Smell was good, but still dry, hope the dryness was due to not beeing ripe.
Thanks in advance for your information.
best regards Frank

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: How to overwinter potted Poncirus
« on: November 24, 2020, 12:23:35 AM »
Hello Lebmung,
thanks for your experience, now I have a very good information with all the experiences and tips and I feel confirmed and safe with my strategy with pots in my lava soil and a fleece cover, thank , you all. Best Regards Frank.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: How to overwinter potted Poncirus
« on: November 23, 2020, 01:04:38 PM »
Thanks Citradia for your experiences.
I like very much the really huge experience in this Forum.
 I have the issue, that I have also Cactus and Pomelo in my Greenhouse, so I can' t go under
0 Grad Celsius.
But for my poncirus I will now use the fleece beside my greenhouse, see picture, and dig them in ground ( Ilyas advice).
Under the fleece I also will overwinter my potted Bloomsweet and Thomasville which I want to plant in ground next year, after having made grafts for security. I think Bloomsweet is in my zone 7 very risky and will need winter protection and heating cable.
Best regards

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: How to overwinter potted Poncirus
« on: November 22, 2020, 03:02:54 PM »
Hello Ilya,
thats a very good Idea and even easy to do, due to my greenhouse is situated on my garage roof which is flat and I have
it covered with an mix of earth and lava stones so it' s easy to integrate the pots.
You are right concerning the temperatures, I guess I haven' t expressed me properly, because I meant keeping 0 degree as lowest temperature.
Yes during day there are fast temperatures over 10 degrees in the greenhouse with light sun.
I think this should also be a proper solution for potted bloomsweet and Co, in combination with a heating cable for very cold temps.
Thank you very much best regards

Cold Hardy Citrus / How to overwinter potted Poncirus
« on: November 22, 2020, 12:34:08 PM »
Hello Citrus Experts,
I have some smaller Poncirus in pots which I want to take as rootstock for grafting next year.
The pot diameters are about 8 cm in diameter and the plants are about 20 to 30 cm high.
Now I ask me if they loose hardiness if I overwinter them in my greenhause which I keep
between 0 and 1 Degree Celsius (32 and 33,8 degree Fahrenheit).
Otherwise I fear that the roots of the Poncirus get freeze damaged if I let them unprotected on my veranda.
Similar question concerning some potted cold hardy plants as Thomasville, Bloomsweet, Ichang Lemon and Changsha mandarin with pot diameter about 15 cm and hights of about 50cm, which I want to plant in ground next early summer. Do they loose hardiness if they go to the greenhouse in Winter ?
Currently they still stand beside the greenhouse with fleece protection.
Thanks for your experiences.
Best regards Frank

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Where to buy citrus online (EUROPE)
« on: November 22, 2020, 04:18:04 AM »
I got plants from Adavo(Rakytnik), Pepinieres Quissac,,Zitronenlust, Agrumi Lenzi, Oskar Tintori.
And Baumschule Schleipfer in Augsburg ( no internet, but friendly and good plants, got there a New Zealand grapefruit which I couldn' t get elsewhere 😅).
All of the above mentioned plant nurseries sent me very good plants to reasonable prices and I was very content also with contacts and reliability
best regards Frank

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: “Winter is Coming!”
« on: November 21, 2020, 05:59:34 PM »
my garden with in white the protected citrus (Citrumelo variants, citrange morton and ichangensis Ivia).
Normally I wanted to show here some pictures of my winter protection.
But Sorry don' t know why the picture upload don' t works anymore 🙄🤔, guess I still have to look for the problem.
Best regards Frank

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: “Winter is Coming!”
« on: November 21, 2020, 05:53:00 PM »
my lemon got impressed by -4.1degree C, the young shots get frozen. The older leaves and the Satsuma are not impressed.
But today they moved to the greenhouse.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: “Winter is Coming!”
« on: November 21, 2020, 04:51:58 PM »
Hello together,
I live in zone 7 and I' got this year crazy for winterhardy citrus, but also for greenhouse citrus.
Last night we had unexpected - 4,1 degrees C, one m away from house wall on ground. Announced by meteo have been - 1degree.
So I was glad to have installed yesterday evening my regulated greenhouse heating and still a few wrappings around the most of my outdoor planted citrus.

So my greenhouse installation see below

the fan

the temperature regulation


and the min. temp stayed at +0,6degree C
Due to problems with further implementation of pics I will send them in a further post
best regards Frank

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: November 21, 2020, 12:37:00 PM »
Hello tropical fruit enthusiasts,
my name is Frank and I live in zone 7 in
southern Germany. After growing cactus as pupil,
my first holiday in southern France in the mediteranean coast, for windsurfing, led me to get enthusiastic with Citrus and figues.
And the last about 30 years i tried to cultivate
a lot of sub tropical plants in my garden, not always but often successfull .
This year after buying a potted Satsuma and a Pomelo
I got still more citrus enthusiastic and tried to get a great range of cold hardy citrus and planted them in my garden.
Quite a while I already visited this interesting forum and
now I decided to join.
I find it really huge and with a lot of god and interesting, helping posts - congratulation.
Best regards Frank

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