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There are lots of fruits that you should have no problem with: for example- citrus, passion fruit, sapodilla, avocado, sugar apple, dragon fruit, and the others you mentioned.

That being said, I feel your pain.  I grew papayas for a few years and at least here in my area of Saint Petersburg, they were nothing but a magnet for a number of nasty things.  And, often they tasted like crap even when they survived.  I rarely had a bad papaya when I lived in Hawaii.

No rambutans grown in Florida, so all the ones you've had are imports, probably from Mexico or Guatemala, meaning many days of refrigeration in transit.

That is the usual case, yes- and it is obvious because rambutan degrade aesthetically so quickly.  I can't imagine you'd ever find one that has been shipped that looks like it was just picked.  A rambutan just off the tree is a thing of beauty.

With that said, I picked up a few a few years back at the Saturday Morning Market here in St. Pete.  I was taken aback because they looked like they were just picked.  I asked the seller where they were grown and she said "locally!" (most of the stuff they sell is local produce.)   Still seems unlikely to me but I'm not sure the girl would have lied and I don't know how they could have looked so good unless they were sourced locally.... perhaps a rouge tree or two, who knows.

Another problem is that the cultivar is often unknown once you're outside of a place like Pine Island where they know what they're growing.  The stuff you pick up in the store (be it the local Asian store or some hipster market) could be any variety.  Just like mangos or anything else- some are good and some are not.

I used to get great rambutan and lychee by people selling beside the road on Kauai.  Have had plenty of good (and bad) fresh lychee here in FL but never a really good rambutan.  Locally grown longan are hit or miss as well in my experience.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: misidentified dragon fruit- advice?
« on: August 03, 2019, 10:56:38 PM »
Maybe Bloody Mary or Red Jaina. Zamorano is a much rounder fruit and the cactus looks different than normal DF so Iím ruling it out.

Thanks- those were my two guesses also after looking at the Pine Island viewer.  I was thinking about this, and even if I introduce another plant it seems the chances of them blooming on the same night would be exceedingly rare.  Could the pollen from one plant be frozen and used later to pollinate another.  (gosh that is starting to sound like a lot of work.)   Perhaps I should just scrap it and buy a better self fertile cultivar.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / misidentified dragon fruit- advice?
« on: August 03, 2019, 05:01:35 PM »
Hi all, two years ago I bought a dragon fruit at Lowes that didn't have a variety name but it did have the grower's name.  I emailed the grower and they said it was Hylocereus undatus, Vietnamese Jaina.

I've had a world of trouble getting it to fruit, even with hand pollination.  Dozens of flowers have just fallen off.  We just got our first runt (an understatement - that is a tiny dessert size paper plate it is on) fruit but it was enough for me to tell that it sure as heck isn't Vietnamese Jaina.  Deep, deep red inside.

So who knows what it is but maybe this explains a few things.  Do I need a separate pollinator?  Can the pollinator be a plant started from a cutting of this same plant, or should it be a different cultivar altogether?  Appreciate any tips or advice!

Nice!  Just this week we were having a discussion on a neighborhood forum here in Saint Petersburg.  Several folks growing Jackfruit successfully, with good fruiting.  This came as a bit of a surprise to me, I thought you'd need to be further south.  Lots of mangos and lychee, etc. here but for some reason I thought jackfruit were a little more sensitive.

Thanks, I picked up some BT from Amazon the other day and sprayed a couple nights ago.  Hopefully it it works.  I just planted this vine a few months ago so it is still of a size where a few hungry caterpillars could completely defoliate it.  (this happened to my neighbor's vine actually.)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / handling caterpillars on passion fruit
« on: June 17, 2018, 10:09:50 AM »

Caterpillar problem on my passion fruit vine- I smash them when I see them but I'm clearly not getting them all.

I have a few different Bayer products that I've used on my fruit trees, but none of them indicate they are for passion fruit expect for a Bayer Advanced fruit specific product that contains Imidacloprid.  Will a systemic like this work for caterpillars or do I need some sort of foliar spray that will kill on contact.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: best setup for growing passion fruit
« on: April 02, 2018, 07:12:43 PM »
Thanks, good point on a grid pattern making pruning more difficult.  I will probably try to go with a a few horizontal runs.  I do feel that this is a little like trying to herd cats, based on my previous experience, but I've also seen some relatively tidy setups so I have hope :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / best setup for growing passion fruit
« on: April 01, 2018, 03:38:48 PM »
I picked up a small purple possum at Jene's yesterday.  The spot I have in mind is adjacent to a 20' run of 6' picket fence.  My neighbors previously had an ornamental red passion vine (several, actually) on this fence and eventually it became quite a mess... rather untrained and eventually developed  lot of thatch underneath.  One issue was that there really wasn't anything to support it except the top of the fence.

I'd like to do something to keep the new vine a little more organized this time.  I was thinking about running some guide wire along the fence, maybe two or three horizontal runs stood off from the fence by a few inches.  Or, I was considering creating some type of wire grid on maybe just one of the 6' wide fence panels.  I have no problem spending time during throughout the week to train the vine but I'd (1) of course like it to do very well and (2) like to set up some sort of structure that is most conducive to managing it.

Comments or other ideas (or photos!) appreciated...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Promising year for a St. Pete Carrie
« on: March 25, 2018, 08:39:25 PM »
palmcity, thanks for the encouragement!  You are spot on- Carrie's lack of coloration is a saving grace.  The only people in the neighborhood that might pick and eat green mangos are Asian folks and I happen to be married to the only Asian person in the neighborhood, and I'm good about sharing with her... so it is a perfect situation all around!  Both her and my son can tear through a green Carrie with the purple shrimp fry stuff from the Asian store in no time flat!

I try to pick daily once I notice the first ones turning yellow.. I'll grab the ones that are green but a mature size and let them ripen for a day or two on the counter.  I've found that if I pick them when they're already yellow, they really have to be eaten quickly!

The dense foliage you mentioned is also beneficial since by June you can barely see the mangos at all.  Do you thin your canopy at all by removing some of the more significant structural branches?  If so, when? 

Last year I had enough surplus to make a couple batches of jam (used the low sugar mix since the carries are already so sweet.)  I had multiple requests for additional jars :)  I also made popsicles for my kids (and uh, maybe I had one or twelve just to sample.)  Nothing but blended up carries... but so delicious.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Promising year for a St. Pete Carrie
« on: March 25, 2018, 01:24:58 PM »
I never had a good fruit yield from this tree until last year.  I also never sprayed with copper until last year because I didn't think it needed it... so not sure if it is coincidence but I'll certainly be spraying every year from now on.  This year looks to be the highest yield yet.  Tons of fruit the size shown below and in my experience only a low percentage of fruit that make it this size will drop prematurely.

This is after a narrow brush with disaster this winter when it get down to 31 degrees one night.    A few patches of leaves/terminal ends got burned but nothing major.  Whew...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's up with these Sapodilla leaves
« on: February 07, 2017, 10:11:23 PM »
Same exact thing happened to my potted Makok a few winters ago.  Others said it was cold damage but it was nowhere near freezing.  Never figured it out, but it didn't cause a problem.

Right now mine is dropping some leaves- probably leaf obsolescence, but it looks totally different- they're fully brown vs. the partial brown seen here.

How did this work out for you?

I just noticed my Carrie is putting out some new inflos (mostly from the spot of depleted inflos from a couple months ago.)  I didn't do anything special, but maybe if I would have I would have gotten a better second bloom.

I think the first bloom was too early- only a few fruit set.  I am hopeful the second bloom will produce more fruit.  It would be rather nice to have a second crop of fruit a couple months after the first!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / please help ID this makok's ailment
« on: January 02, 2013, 06:01:52 PM »
Hello all,

My first guess would be cold damage or some sort of leaf burn?  However, the tree has not encountered anything near dangerous temps... high 40's at the worst.  I should mention that the tree has a heavy set of fruit that is rapidly maturing.  Early on, I did thin some fruit, maybe from around 50 down to 30.  I am wondering if that is still too much stress on a young tree?   (It is 3-4 years old, about 6" tall or so.)

Many thanks,

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Mango Bloom for Upcoming 2013 Season
« on: December 17, 2012, 06:04:13 PM »
I found this thread interesting since last year my Carrie bloomed in March and as of now, late December, it is blooming again.  I am curious as to the cause... other than a early drop into cooler temps (50's), I can't think of what might cause it.

I am curious what effect the coldest months (Jan/Feb) might have now.   If the fruit hold, I'm also curious how early they will be.  This year they ripened in early July, if I recall.  April/May seems pretty early for mangos.  (I'm in St Pete, FL)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: thinning a makok sapodilla?
« on: October 14, 2012, 05:11:08 PM »
Thanks all,

So maybe for a tree this size I should thin from 50 fruit down to.... guessing... hmm... 30 or so?  It actually had blooms when I bought it last December so I am assuming it might try to set even more fruit.  The potential productiveness of this tree makes me consider putting it in-ground where it can achieve its full potential... but OTHO if I get 30 fruit from such a small tree in a container that is pretty good IMHO even if they are small.

I agree on the skin.  People eat much thicker skins on other fruits and vegetables.  A lot of fruit is lost no matter how careful you are in removing or eating around the skin.

The one fruit I actually ate from the tree so far was delicious.  Zero grit and basically tasted like someone mixed butter (not margarine!), brown sugar, and pear together.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / thinning a makok sapodilla?
« on: October 14, 2012, 12:02:56 PM »
Hello all,

My Makok has approximately 50 fruit.  I think this may be too many for it, based on what I have read.  While I am not interested in making the tree grow larger, I do want the fruit to be of decent size and I know Makok have small fruit to begin with.

What do you recommend?  I was thinking of thinning the larger clusters down to one or two fruit.  Perhaps, leaving a variety of sizes so that I'll have fruit for a longer part of the season?  What is a good target number for a container tree of this size?

When I bought the tree last December it had a couple small fruit that eventually ripened in August.  These fruit are already larger and it is only October so I'm guessing I might have fruit from early summer onward?


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