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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #175 on: May 21, 2025, 09:36:49 PM »
Anyone have new data on Parson mango?

Looking for info on the taste, growth habit, disease resistance etc. Thanks.

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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #176 on: May 21, 2025, 11:03:23 PM »
When spraying for PM, I use Sulfur. I use 4 tablespoons per gallon of water and spray every 7-10 days.


7-10 days is ideal for spraying for PM in SoCal but I find myself doing it every 14-21 days. I did take your advice Simon and purchased a electric fogger and it is fantastic. Far more effective than a hand sprayer. Thanks for the recommendation.

My Searcest-Coconut Cream mango tree is looking good in terms of production in 2025.

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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #177 on: May 22, 2025, 01:37:27 PM »
Asked Alex @ TAF for Top 5 mangoes for SoCal, and he recommended Sweet Tart, peach cobbler, Cac, Cotton Candy and to consider "Sunrise" for SoCal location on manila root stock. Never tasted Sunrise but other 4 are excellent tasting Mangoes. Sad that Lemon zest cannot make it to top 5.

I can vouch for Sweet Tart, Cac, Peach Cobbler and Cotton Candy. They grow well and will set fruit even with Powdery Mildew. I’m not growing Sunrise but a friend is and his tree is growing well last I heard.

Lemon Zest is one of my favorite mangos but the Powdery Mildew severely inhibits fruit set and the PM also causes the new growth flushes to get distorted in shape. For those that can spray with sulfur every 7-10 days, pre bloom to fruit set, you can still get a good harvest from Lemon Zest. Also, for those living in an area with good air circulation such as at the top of a hill, you can get good fruit set without spraying.

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I have heard LZ has issue with PM, so I spray 4x.

It's on my multi-grafted tree (15+ year old) grafted 2 years ago and it's full of fruits. Very vigorous variety.

Sweet Tart, Maha, CHL, Keo Savoy seems clean and fruiting well. KS is a heavy producer.



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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #178 on: May 23, 2025, 03:49:28 AM »
I just grafted many Orange Sherbert on my 2 trees that I dug up last year. Hope they taste good here. Next year I can graft more on my 2 old trees.

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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #179 on: May 23, 2025, 06:31:06 PM »
I just grafted many Orange Sherbert on my 2 trees that I dug up last year. Hope they taste good here. Next year I can graft more on my 2 old trees.

I hope yours take. I have one grafted OS and it's flushing again. Already grafted OS to another tree

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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #180 on: May 24, 2025, 04:50:31 PM »
Iirc, parson has a coconut type flavor. Hard to find though.

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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #181 on: August 19, 2025, 06:46:19 PM »
Can anyone shine on cac mango? Is it productive?
So far it's very vigorous. 3 flushes in 3 month on a huge rootstock.




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« Reply #182 on: August 19, 2025, 07:00:03 PM »
Nice.

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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #183 on: August 19, 2025, 08:33:27 PM »
Can anyone shine on cac mango? Is it productive?
So far it's very vigorous. 3 flushes in 3 month on a huge rootstock.

Cac checks all the boxes for you SoCal lads. The fruit is delicious. The tree is productive and disease resistant. Alex Salazar lists it as an insurance mango. And the growth habit is extremely vigorous.
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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #184 on: August 19, 2025, 08:51:21 PM »
True the Cac mango is vigorous and very delicious indeed but at my location Cac has been a shy producer taking 5-7 years just to come into production in SoCal. In contrast the Orange Sherbet grafts that are (3) years of age, are loaded with high quality fruit in 2025 and is a better choice for our location based on my observations. I do love Cac though I just wish it was more consistent in terms of production at my location. What does well in Florida does not necessarily mean it does well in California.

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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #185 on: August 19, 2025, 09:24:41 PM »
True the Cac mango is vigorous and very delicious indeed but at my location Cac has been a shy producer taking 5-7 years just to come into production in SoCal. In contrast the Orange Sherbet grafts that are (3) years of age, are loaded with high quality fruit in 2025 and is a better choice for our location based on my observations. I do love Cac though I just wish it was more consistent in terms of production at my location. What does well in Florida does not necessarily mean it does well in California.

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Thanks Johnny. I'm further in land. I got 107F here in San Gabriel Valley. Hopefully it is productive here in my area. I do have a few Sweet Tart, OS, M4, Maha as insurance mango.

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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #186 on: August 19, 2025, 09:52:03 PM »
Enclosed is a Orange Sherbet 2022 graft photo that is producing numerous fruit this year. My Cac graft has grown well but has few fruit in 2025. (See photo of Orange Sherbet Mango Tree with fruit)

Also the Angie Mango seems to do quite well in terms of production at my costal location but this is a slower growing variety. ( See photo of ripening Angie Fruit from one Branch grafted about four years ago)

Guava Mango does very well at my location. Every Graft of Guava I did is holding fruit. A winner at my location. I have no idea how these will do in much warmer desert locations that are 30 degrees warmer than where I am located. You have to do your own experimentation.

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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #187 on: August 20, 2025, 10:13:37 AM »
Sounds like I need guava mango

OS do really well in my yard. 4th flushes grafted this year


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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #188 on: August 20, 2025, 10:17:25 AM »
True the Cac mango is vigorous and very delicious indeed but at my location Cac has been a shy producer taking 5-7 years just to come into production in SoCal.

That's a bummer, Cac is a great mango. On the positive side, Orange Sherbet tastes even better so roll with that.
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« Reply #189 on: August 20, 2025, 11:45:19 AM »
Cac - super productive. I'm in Orange, 8 miles from the beach. Got loads of fruit on 1 branch that has powered it's way to production size in just 3 or 4 years.

Pound for pound, it is as productive as the best producers for me - honey kiss, sweet tart, venus. I've got someone coming over soon for a fig tasting, but I'll take a picture soon. Also, with respect to taste, cAC is up there with the best after trying a few earlier this season, it is now in my top tier category. Medium sized, fiberless, very sweet, sometimes with a tropical Hawaiian Punch like aftertaste. Ended up as my second son's favorite mango

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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #190 on: August 20, 2025, 01:05:36 PM »
Really wish we could change the name cac to something else. It literally translates to “cock” in Vietnamese.

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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #191 on: August 20, 2025, 01:40:21 PM »
Cac - super productive. I'm in Orange, 8 miles from the beach. Got loads of fruit on 1 branch that has powered it's way to production size in just 3 or 4 years.

Pound for pound, it is as productive as the best producers for me - honey kiss, sweet tart, venus. I've got someone coming over soon for a fig tasting, but I'll take a picture soon. Also, with respect to taste, cAC is up there with the best after trying a few earlier this season, it is now in my top tier category. Medium sized, fiberless, very sweet, sometimes with a tropical Hawaiian Punch like aftertaste. Ended up as my second son's favorite mango

Do you have any picture of it? Any disease issue? Fruit splitting? How's the growth habit of it? Did you have to spray and how much?

Thanks for sharing your experience.
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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #192 on: August 20, 2025, 03:03:53 PM »
All the mangoes except the one with red blush are Cac from a single graft a couple years ago. There are 2 or 3 more fruit hidden in the leaves. No splitting so far. 1 dropped after being hit because the branches are growing into a pathway.

The red blush mango is rootstock. Forgot what the seedling was but brix of 28 with a classic flavor.


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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #193 on: August 20, 2025, 03:30:11 PM »
True the Cac mango is vigorous and very delicious indeed but at my location Cac has been a shy producer taking 5-7 years just to come into production in SoCal.

That's a bummer, Cac is a great mango. On the positive side, Orange Sherbet tastes even better so roll with that.

Prime to prime OS beats CAC. Cac advantage is vigorous & productive.

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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #194 on: August 20, 2025, 03:41:24 PM »
Here's that seedling photo with brix 27.5

Cac - no splitting or anthracnose. Pm hits everything. I do spray roughly every 7-10 days February - may. I should have sprayed through June too though.

For reference, my lz tree is as big as Johnny os and has about 12 or 15 fruit on it. Used to have more but between splitting and fruit drops that's what is left on the tree and sizing up.

My os gets hit hard by pm too. Last year os fruited heavily this year a lot less so.

Pina colada is a beast. Constant flushing. Shy producer but still holds fruit. I have some pc seedlings as well, 1 is fruiting this year.

Honeykiss grows easily and produces a ton. too much. True branch breaker.

Venus is another easy aggressive grower with lots of fruit.

Ppk is hit and miss. I have 1 branch with 4 fruit and another with none. I have a standalone tree with 5 or 6 fruit but it only puts out 1 or 2 flushes per year and grows in the shade of a Marge fig tree (unfortunately).

Fruit punch grows well and sets fruit easily

I have Gary seedling covered with fruit.

Giselle is an aggressive grower and fruits easily first year for me. Had some 20 fruit on a 2 year old graft, slowly dropping and splitting but it's been stable now at 10-12 fruit for the last month.

Orange essence grows easily. Sets fruit but drops fruit easily. This is the longest it's ever held fruit for me and I'm expecting it to ripen some fruit this year.

Cotton candy also grows well and sets fruit. Not this year though. It stalled...

M4 Grows well and sets fruit but mine is growing in the shade so it has suffered from some dieback between limited sun and my forcing it to fruit. The past 2 years I'm just letting it grow until it is taller than the grape trellises that shade it.

Sweet tart is pretty disease free and sets fruit. Still hit with pm in June when I stopped spraying.

I'll take photos of those trees and post later.




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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #195 on: August 20, 2025, 04:34:49 PM »
Pina colada. Note there is a seedling I planted that is poking out the right side. Waiting for that to fruit before I decide what to do with it.
Otherwise it's pretty easy to tell where the Pina colada is because the whole tree is flushing with light copper colored leaves.


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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #196 on: August 20, 2025, 04:36:27 PM »
Venus, several different branches with fruit.






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« Reply #197 on: August 20, 2025, 04:39:49 PM »
Sorry I don't know how to make sure the photos load in a specific order.

Next is sweet tart from different sides of the tree. I think St is a no Brainer for us. Lots of fruit, high quality, high brix, unique taste, relatively problem free




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Re: Best tasting and most reliable Mangos for Southern California
« Reply #198 on: August 20, 2025, 04:40:52 PM »
Mallika
Just 1 fruit this year


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« Reply #199 on: August 20, 2025, 04:42:43 PM »
Giselle
2 yr old graft. Grew like a monster last year and set fruit like a champ. I counted over 16 fruit when taking the picture. More than I thought were still on. 1 graft grew several long branches. All the fruit you see are growing on the tips of Giselle branches from that 1 graft.



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