what are some interesting and tasty rare fruits

[SplorKeLZ]

i really like collecting the very very rare fruits (annona, Eugenia, duguetia, plinia etc.)what are some that are obscure and yummy? seed to flesh ration and short fruiting time is also good

[mcoambassador]

How about…

Z4 Abiu
Eugenia lutescens x pyriformis
Duguetia stenantha
Passiflora alata
Passiflora popenovii

[MountDoraOllie]

Pulasan. A friend of mine who traveled to Honduras just to try new fruits said that this one was like lychee but much better. I've since heard it's not as good as lychee, but of course taste is subjective.

[SplorKeLZ]

Pulasan. A friend of mine who traveled to Honduras just to try new fruits said that this one was like lychee but much better. I've since heard it's not as good as lychee, but of course taste is subjective.

i really want to try pulasan, i have heard it is better than rambutan and that the flesh doesnt stick to the seed which is rambutans main con

[Maypop]

I think you're also looking for plants to grow yourself in Seattle, so I just wanted to mention that pulasan is an ultratropical like rambutan, I don't think it's even been fruited in the continental US yet. But you should be able to find fresh fruit domestically in PR or Hawaii. You probably already know, but just in case!

[SplorKeLZ]

I think you're also looking for plants to grow yourself in Seattle, so I just wanted to mention that pulasan is an ultratropical like rambutan, I don't think it's even been fruited in the continental US yet. But you should be able to find fresh fruit domestically in PR or Hawaii. You probably already know, but just in case!

that has been my main holdup with immediately getting one, i plan to keep the ultra tropicals indoors where it is always warm. How prolific is a small pulasan?

[Rob From Sydney]

I reckon mulchi (plinia inflata) looks pretty crazy. I am yet to buy some seeds, looks quite exciting.
Soncoya (Annona Purplea) is a MASSIVE annona, can get to 20cm wide. Fibrous, supposed to taste good.

Also, give some thoughts to pouterias, like abiu, mammey sapote, canistel, etc. There are some really good rare pouterias, too.

[SplorKeLZ]

I reckon mulchi (plinia inflata) looks pretty crazy. I am yet to buy some seeds, looks quite exciting.
Soncoya (Annona Purplea) is a MASSIVE annona, can get to 20cm wide. Fibrous, supposed to taste good.

Also, give some thoughts to pouterias, like abiu, mammey sapote, canistel, etc. There are some really good rare pouterias, too.

i do want to get soncoya and mulchi, i have read that Mulchi can take upwards of 15 years to bear fruit though...

[ben mango]

Durio zibethinus x graveloens.

[SplorKeLZ]

Durio zibethinus x graveloens.

i want to try a durio species at some point but unfortunately i dont like the taste yet

[Maypop]

A durian of any kind would be absolutely impossible indoors...

Ultratropicals and trees that people struggle to container grow even in ideal conditions are definitely not something you should ever bother with as an indoor grower, OP, they're a waste of time and space and resources that you could be spending on something that's at least feasible. A dwarf mulchi that took 15 years to mature would be a wayyyy better payoff than an unhappy pulasan that never fruits.

[Bush2Beach]

Literally every thing in every thread from OP is impossible for OP to fruit. It's like we are being trolled, but everyone likes talking fruit so who cares. The advice given by multiple people to grow something you have a chance of fruiting or keeping alive is repeatedly rejected. 90% of the forum is for zone pushers but everything has it's limits.   

A durian of any kind would be absolutely impossible indoors...

Ultratropicals and trees that people struggle to container grow even in ideal conditions are definitely not something you should ever bother with as an indoor grower, OP, they're a waste of time and space and resources that you could be spending on something that's at least feasible. A dwarf mulchi that took 15 years to mature would be a wayyyy better payoff than an unhappy pulasan that never fruits.

[Jaboticaba45]

I think it's just an idea everyone gets when they start growing tropical fruits...
I used to have 10 different artocarpus sp.
And even with a greenhouse, I don't even mess with those anymore.
No durains or mangosteens or langsats or pulasans or coconuts.
Unfortunately cant be done. Also a lot of them get super big before fruiting so just cause you can grow it does not equate to fruit.
That's a lesson I had to learn. Even in SFL, you can't grow most ultra tropicals due to climate.

I'd focus on psidiums, plinias, eugenias, a few annonas, and some interesting berries like miracle fruit and maybe gin berry etc.
Mangos and others are possible to grow and fruit, but it's a big push to do indoors.
I'd also try to grow some cool fruits outside like loquat, yangmei, persimmon, etc.
Those are very tasty fruits.

Hope it helps!

[Maypop]

Growing something like a guava is going to bring you much more joy in both the short and long term than trying to make an abiu work in the PNW, trust me! 

(Ginberry is the perfect suggestion!)

[Bush2Beach]

That's great advice Ryan. You've already given it and it's piggybacking on what others have reiterated as well . People will always do whatever they want and don't have to listen to anyone, so at some point you gotta just throw your hands up and say whatever. That's a lesson I had to learn.

 

I think it's just an idea everyone gets when they start growing tropical fruits...
I used to have 10 different artocarpus sp.
And even with a greenhouse, I don't even mess with those anymore.
No durains or mangosteens or langsats or pulasans or coconuts.
Unfortunately cant be done. Also a lot of them get super big before fruiting so just cause you can grow it does not equate to fruit.
That's a lesson I had to learn. Even in SFL, you can't grow most ultra tropicals due to climate.

I'd focus on psidiums, plinias, eugenias, a few annonas, and some interesting berries like miracle fruit and maybe gin berry etc.
Mangos and others are possible to grow and fruit, but it's a big push to do indoors.
I'd also try to grow some cool fruits outside like loquat, yangmei, persimmon, etc.
Those are very tasty fruits.

Hope it helps!

[SplorKeLZ]

A durian of any kind would be absolutely impossible indoors...

Ultratropicals and trees that people struggle to container grow even in ideal conditions are definitely not something you should ever bother with as an indoor grower, OP, they're a waste of time and space and resources that you could be spending on something that's at least feasible. A dwarf mulchi that took 15 years to mature would be a wayyyy better payoff than an unhappy pulasan that never fruits.

i wouldnt try an ultra tropical and expect to get fruit, i would only do it for the fun of the challenge

[SplorKeLZ]

Literally every thing in every thread from OP is impossible for OP to fruit. It's like we are being trolled, but everyone likes talking fruit so who cares. The advice given by multiple people to grow something you have a chance of fruiting or keeping alive is repeatedly rejected. 90% of the forum is for zone pushers but everything has it's limits.   

A durian of any kind would be absolutely impossible indoors...

Ultratropicals and trees that people struggle to container grow even in ideal conditions are definitely not something you should ever bother with as an indoor grower, OP, they're a waste of time and space and resources that you could be spending on something that's at least feasible. A dwarf mulchi that took 15 years to mature would be a wayyyy better payoff than an unhappy pulasan that never fruits.

Right now im focusing manly on fruiting annonas, garcinias, plinias and eugenia. When i first joined the forum i didnt know hardly anything about fruit so many of my early posts were detailing something impossible

[ben mango]

I think it's just an idea everyone gets when they start growing tropical fruits...
I used to have 10 different artocarpus sp.
And even with a greenhouse, I don't even mess with those anymore.
No durains or mangosteens or langsats or pulasans or coconuts.
Unfortunately cant be done. Also a lot of them get super big before fruiting so just cause you can grow it does not equate to fruit.
That's a lesson I had to learn. Even in SFL, you can't grow most ultra tropicals due to climate.

I'd focus on psidiums, plinias, eugenias, a few annonas, and some interesting berries like miracle fruit and maybe gin berry etc.
Mangos and others are possible to grow and fruit, but it's a big push to do indoors.
I'd also try to grow some cool fruits outside like loquat, yangmei, persimmon, etc.
Those are very tasty fruits.

Hope it helps!

Even the guy in Cali (hapajoe I think is his name) thinks he will be able to fruit durian in a greenhouse in California. At one point Steve Murray , who is very knowledgeable on tropical fruits said he was going to devote a greenhouse to durian in Bakersfield, CA. But eventually pretty sure he came back to earth and reality kicked in lol

[Maypop]

Right now im focusing manly on fruiting annonas, garcinias, plinias and eugenia.

What Garcinias do you have on your list so far? Will you try achachairú? That's an odder one that I feel may have a chance in a container, its growth has been pretty vigorous for me compared to its cousins and it took some low 40s this spring and low 100s this summer with no obvious stress. It does seem to like a lot of bright light, though.
Brasiliensis and intermedia are supposed to be the premier container Garcinias, I'm just starting out with them myself and I'm curious if they'll be similar to achachairú?

[SplorKeLZ]

Right now im focusing manly on fruiting annonas, garcinias, plinias and eugenia.

What Garcinias do you have on your list so far? Will you try achachairú? That's an odder one that I feel may have a chance in a container, its growth has been pretty vigorous for me compared to its cousins and it took some low 40s this spring and low 100s this summer with no obvious stress. It does seem to like a lot of bright light, though.
Brasiliensis and intermedia are supposed to be the premier container Garcinias, I'm just starting out with them myself and I'm curious if they'll be similar to achachairú?

i got a few brasiliensis seeds, i want to try imbe, its been quite the hype these last few weeks. i will probably at some point get an achachairu and/or a lucs

[nullzero]

I would suggest a good tamarillo (aka tree tomato). It fruits well in containers and a good one taste guava like with very faint tomato acidic flavors.

[SplorKeLZ]

I would suggest a good tamarillo (aka tree tomato). It fruits well in containers and a good one taste guava like with very faint tomato acidic flavors.

i tried tamarillo once and HATED it, i have had a lot of fruut and that was my least favorite. Maybe I had a bad one though

[nullzero]

I would suggest a good tamarillo (aka tree tomato). It fruits well in containers and a good one taste guava like with very faint tomato acidic flavors.

i tried tamarillo once and HATED it, i have had a lot of fruut and that was my least favorite. Maybe I had a bad one though

I grew a red type in the past and it was extremely sour and had tomatish flavor.  Very wide variation in flavor. You need a good tasting selection to make it worth it.

[BloomAndSprout]

I think it's just an idea everyone gets when they start growing tropical fruits...
I used to have 10 different artocarpus sp.
And even with a greenhouse, I don't even mess with those anymore.
No durains or mangosteens or langsats or pulasans or coconuts.
Unfortunately cant be done. Also a lot of them get super big before fruiting so just cause you can grow it does not equate to fruit.
That's a lesson I had to learn. Even in SFL, you can't grow most ultra tropicals due to climate.

I'd focus on psidiums, plinias, eugenias, a few annonas, and some interesting berries like miracle fruit and maybe gin berry etc.
Mangos and others are possible to grow and fruit, but it's a big push to do indoors.
I'd also try to grow some cool fruits outside like loquat, yangmei, persimmon, etc.
Those are very tasty fruits.

Hope it helps!

Even the guy in Cali (hapajoe I think is his name) thinks he will be able to fruit durian in a greenhouse in California. At one point Steve Murray , who is very knowledgeable on tropical fruits said he was going to devote a greenhouse to durian in Bakersfield, CA. But eventually pretty sure he came back to earth and reality kicked in lol

So how foolish am I trying to grow kwai muk that must be brought in during the winter?

[Jaboticaba45]

I think it's just an idea everyone gets when they start growing tropical fruits...
I used to have 10 different artocarpus sp.
And even with a greenhouse, I don't even mess with those anymore.
No durains or mangosteens or langsats or pulasans or coconuts.
Unfortunately cant be done. Also a lot of them get super big before fruiting so just cause you can grow it does not equate to fruit.
That's a lesson I had to learn. Even in SFL, you can't grow most ultra tropicals due to climate.

I'd focus on psidiums, plinias, eugenias, a few annonas, and some interesting berries like miracle fruit and maybe gin berry etc.
Mangos and others are possible to grow and fruit, but it's a big push to do indoors.
I'd also try to grow some cool fruits outside like loquat, yangmei, persimmon, etc.
Those are very tasty fruits.

Hope it helps!

Even the guy in Cali (hapajoe I think is his name) thinks he will be able to fruit durian in a greenhouse in California. At one point Steve Murray , who is very knowledgeable on tropical fruits said he was going to devote a greenhouse to durian in Bakersfield, CA. But eventually pretty sure he came back to earth and reality kicked in lol

So how foolish am I trying to grow kwai muk that must be brought in during the winter?

Kwai muk is an exception in that it can take a frost and be ok.
They still get pretty big though, but theoretically it's the easiest along with jackfruit and a. nanchuanensis. the kwai muk and nanchuanensis come from China where it's totally different compared to say Indonesia where a lot of ultra tropical ones come from.
Brian has a big tree, and I also have a decent sized one.
But they are in greenhouses and not indoors.

[nullzero]

Mature Kwai muk probably handle brief temps around 28f. It's more hardy than Jackfruit.

[BloomAndSprout]

Mature Kwai muk probably handle brief temps around 28f. It's more hardy than Jackfruit.

My plants are the center of my life (every man needs a hobby) and I have no problem bringing them indoors; what I'm wondering is whether it will fruit in a container without having to get too big for my garage.  Of all artocarpus, kwai muk seemed like the only potentially realistic option (with the slightly higher cold tolerance to boot).

[Altrexy]

The tastiest rare fruit I’ve ever had by far is cinnamon apple (pouteria glomerata). They are just incredible. I’ve read the tree is pretty slow growing and not too big at maturity for a pouteria. They grow outdoors unprotected at the fruit and spice park. If we’re including more common ones I’d say maybe white sapote? I believe they can fruit small and when dead ripe they’re on par with some of the best fruits I’ve ever had

[Rob From Sydney]

The tastiest rare fruit I’ve ever had by far is cinnamon apple (pouteria glomerata). They are just incredible. I’ve read the tree is pretty slow growing and not too big at maturity for a pouteria. They grow outdoors unprotected at the fruit and spice park.

Please tell me more!
I have two seeds that are about to pop up, and I would love to know more about the taste. Apparently it's smoky with no cinnamon nodes?

[Jaboticaba45]

The tastiest rare fruit I’ve ever had by far is cinnamon apple (pouteria glomerata). They are just incredible. I’ve read the tree is pretty slow growing and not too big at maturity for a pouteria. They grow outdoors unprotected at the fruit and spice park.

Please tell me more!
I have two seeds that are about to pop up, and I would love to know more about the taste. Apparently it's smoky with no cinnamon nodes?

Whoever named it must've been high or something.
Nothing like cinnamon or apple.
Name probably derives from it turning brown from oxidation.
It's sweet and creamy. Towards the rind it's a bit gritty.
It's very underrated and very good in my opinion.

[Altrexy]

Without having one in front of me it’s a little hard to recall and dissect the flavor. I didn’t get any cinnamon notes that I remember, although my mom says it has some. It has a creamier interior (super tasty) and a grainy almost crunchy layer before the skin (less tasty but still tasty). The flavor is inoffensive (nothing overpowering) and very very good. There’s many fruits I love which I can understand people disliking (think durian or Indian turpentiney mangos) but cinnamon apple I can’t imagine someone disliking. It’s always hard to describe new flavors but the closest I can come is bread pudding. I’d really look into the fruiting size though. The fruit is on the bigger side and you might need some decently sized branches. Grafting if you can get your hands on some fruit and spice park cuttings is also a great idea. God knows how much genetic variety there is out there and you might get something totally different from what I ate. So far, it’s the best rare (not even in specialty rare fruit nurseries) fruit I’ve had.

[SplorKeLZ]

Without having one in front of me it’s a little hard to recall and dissect the flavor. I didn’t get any cinnamon notes that I remember, although my mom says it has some. It has a creamier interior (super tasty) and a grainy almost crunchy layer before the skin (less tasty but still tasty). The flavor is inoffensive (nothing overpowering) and very very good. There’s many fruits I love which I can understand people disliking (think durian or Indian turpentiney mangos) but cinnamon apple I can’t imagine someone disliking. It’s always hard to describe new flavors but the closest I can come is bread pudding. I’d really look into the fruiting size though. The fruit is on the bigger side and you might need some decently sized branches. Grafting if you can get your hands on some fruit and spice park cuttings is also a great idea. God knows how much genetic variety there is out there and you might get something totally different from what I ate. So far, it’s the best rare (not even in specialty rare fruit nurseries) fruit I’ve had.

could it graft onto P. sapota? i dislike mamey and cinnamon apple sounds yummy

[Rob From Sydney]

I got my seeds from Trade Winds Fruit. Not sure what the fruit will taste like, but I hope it will match your descriptions.

[Altrexy]

Without having one in front of me it’s a little hard to recall and dissect the flavor. I didn’t get any cinnamon notes that I remember, although my mom says it has some. It has a creamier interior (super tasty) and a grainy almost crunchy layer before the skin (less tasty but still tasty). The flavor is inoffensive (nothing overpowering) and very very good. There’s many fruits I love which I can understand people disliking (think durian or Indian turpentiney mangos) but cinnamon apple I can’t imagine someone disliking. It’s always hard to describe new flavors but the closest I can come is bread pudding. I’d really look into the fruiting size though. The fruit is on the bigger side and you might need some decently sized branches. Grafting if you can get your hands on some fruit and spice park cuttings is also a great idea. God knows how much genetic variety there is out there and you might get something totally different from what I ate. So far, it’s the best rare (not even in specialty rare fruit nurseries) fruit I’ve had.

could it graft onto P. sapota? i dislike mamey and cinnamon apple sounds yummy

I doubt considering mamey is a finicky grafter even within its species. Also, look into quality mamey cultivars. 90% of mameys I’ve had have been unpalatable, 5% acceptable, and another 5% incredibly good. My dads (seedling) tree has unbelievable fruit. I could eat tons of them out of hand. Make sure you get a small fruited variety. In my experience those are way tastier. Key west and pantin I believe are the favorite cultivars but I have no idea. Several people here know more about mamey than i do. Magaña is horrible. I know proper ripening also matters a lot which another plus to small fruits

[barath]

Without having one in front of me it’s a little hard to recall and dissect the flavor. I didn’t get any cinnamon notes that I remember, although my mom says it has some. It has a creamier interior (super tasty) and a grainy almost crunchy layer before the skin (less tasty but still tasty). The flavor is inoffensive (nothing overpowering) and very very good. There’s many fruits I love which I can understand people disliking (think durian or Indian turpentiney mangos) but cinnamon apple I can’t imagine someone disliking. It’s always hard to describe new flavors but the closest I can come is bread pudding. I’d really look into the fruiting size though. The fruit is on the bigger side and you might need some decently sized branches. Grafting if you can get your hands on some fruit and spice park cuttings is also a great idea. God knows how much genetic variety there is out there and you might get something totally different from what I ate. So far, it’s the best rare (not even in specialty rare fruit nurseries) fruit I’ve had.

Sounds great. Are you growing Pouteria glomerata or know where I could get some scions? I've been thinking it'll be fun to try grafting it on my Lucuma (no idea if it's compatible, but can't hurt trying).

[Rob From Sydney]

I reckon mulchi (plinia inflata) looks pretty crazy. I am yet to buy some seeds, looks quite exciting.
Soncoya (Annona Purplea) is a MASSIVE annona, can get to 20cm wide. Fibrous, supposed to taste good.

Also, give some thoughts to pouterias, like abiu, mammey sapote, canistel, etc. There are some really good rare pouterias, too.

i do want to get soncoya and mulchi, i have read that Mulchi can take upwards of 15 years to bear fruit though...

They can take up to 15 years in more marginal areas, but if they're happy they can fruit in the 5-10 year range. My attitude: Start now.

[SplorKeLZ]

I reckon mulchi (plinia inflata) looks pretty crazy. I am yet to buy some seeds, looks quite exciting.
Soncoya (Annona Purplea) is a MASSIVE annona, can get to 20cm wide. Fibrous, supposed to taste good.

Also, give some thoughts to pouterias, like abiu, mammey sapote, canistel, etc. There are some really good rare pouterias, too.

i do want to get soncoya and mulchi, i have read that Mulchi can take upwards of 15 years to bear fruit though...

They can take up to 15 years in more marginal areas, but if they're happy they can fruit in the 5-10 year range. My attitude: Start now.

mine too, but my wallet's is start later

[Rob From Sydney]

I reckon mulchi (plinia inflata) looks pretty crazy. I am yet to buy some seeds, looks quite exciting.
Soncoya (Annona Purplea) is a MASSIVE annona, can get to 20cm wide. Fibrous, supposed to taste good.

Also, give some thoughts to pouterias, like abiu, mammey sapote, canistel, etc. There are some really good rare pouterias, too.

i do want to get soncoya and mulchi, i have read that Mulchi can take upwards of 15 years to bear fruit though...

They can take up to 15 years in more marginal areas, but if they're happy they can fruit in the 5-10 year range. My attitude: Start now.

mine too, but my wallet's is start later

Ha! Agreed.