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Free persimmon fruit alert
« on: November 08, 2025, 10:00:46 AM »
Saw this on FL fruit geek instagram and thought to share with the group that really appreciates fruit
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQzH8QaEShB/?igsh=MWlmN2p5b3VqZDB2dw==

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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2025, 10:03:28 AM »
Thats a heck of a tree wow! I'd check it out for sure if I was closer

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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2025, 11:48:49 AM »
Me, too  ;D

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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2025, 02:26:31 PM »
I prefer the non-astringent ones. That just looks to over ripe for me to eat. But when I got some ripe saijo persimmons (astringent) to taste from a member, it was the sweetest persimmon I ate. So, I did graft some scion on my Hyakume tree. I don't eat Hachiya since it needs to be so soft before it gets sweet.

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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2025, 05:14:59 PM »
You can freeze the astringent type and it will lose astringency and will get much sweeter

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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2025, 06:35:13 PM »
Yes, that's what I read about getting rid of some astringency on those varieties.  I just went back to the Sprouts market to buy more of the new grapes they had on sale (Autumn Crisp) and they had some really nice-looking Hachiya persimmons (3/$5) so I bought them. Just to try the Hachiya fruit again. This is probably the second time I ever ate the Hachiya persimmon. I will compare the taste with the Saijo fruit that I liked.
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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2025, 09:28:56 PM »
Yes please let me know. Wish you were closer to the tree above to try its fruit as well!

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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2025, 10:47:34 PM »
I got a fuyu type persimmon tree this year and planted it outdoors.  It is just barely cold hardy in my zone, not sure how it will do.  I let it hold a single fruit this first year and it was better than any store bought fuyu persimmons I've had, I'm really happy about it.  Hope it survives and thrives, but I've noticed the deer eating it.   

I don't like the astringent types... they are far too squishy when they become edible.

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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2025, 12:02:49 AM »
Yes, I agree, taste of the astringent varieties is very sweet, but the astringent one is too squishy for me as well. But the Saijo seemed to be soft, super sweet and not as squishy. I have been eating the Japanese non-astringent varieties all my life (over 60 yrs) so I'm to use to eating it like an apple.

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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2025, 10:47:35 AM »
Saijo has a better texture than Hachiya and other varieties at the soft stage that I've tried.  I've grown up eating both and enjoy the texture of the non astringent types but when dried, fuyu types and Hachiya are no match for Saijo.  Also, most non astringent varieties you find in the markets are harvested when still green or barely orange, including Saijo.  The quality changes significantly when allowed to fully color up.  Ideally, I like to wait until there are black markings on the skin.

I've been able to try many non astringent and pollination variant non astringent varieties, evaluating which one I want to add.  A Korean variety had the best crunchy texture of the ones I've tried so far.  I don't like how the pollinated non astringent varieties have so many seeds in the center and it's hard to tell when they've been pollinated to lose astringency.  I also removed grafts from my Saijo tree that were pollinating it because of the seeds.  I have an american persimmon x kaki hybrid to try in a week or so.

I've heard that American persimmons have a butterscotch flavor.  If anyone has some for sale or would like to trade for Saijo, please message me. 

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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2025, 04:36:38 PM »
American persimmons have been extremely difficult for me to grow from seed, they sprout randomly at a rate of 1-2 every half a yer (from the same batch) and then die in infancy. What have been your experiences growing them from seed?

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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2025, 09:23:22 PM »
Satya,

I haven't grown them, but I would guess they need cold stratification.   I would store them in the fridge for 2-3 months, soak in a weak seaweed solution then dust with a mycorrhizal inoculant like BioCoat Gold. 
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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2025, 11:39:46 PM »
There’s an old American persimmon tree at Sacramento capitol arboretum as well that might be going off right now. Massive tree

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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2025, 12:59:44 AM »
I feel so tempted to drive there and try it. I love the idea of a truly native fruit tree. I wonder if it's ok to dig up a root sucker from the mother tree to grow? In the interest of maintenance, of course.
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Re: Free persimmon fruit alert
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2025, 07:14:29 PM »
Satya,

I haven't grown them, but I would guess they need cold stratification.   I would store them in the fridge for 2-3 months, soak in a weak seaweed solution then dust with a mycorrhizal inoculant like BioCoat Gold.
Thank you Janet, will try.