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Tropical Fruit Discussion / The Grinch Who Stole Christmas Avocados
« on: December 30, 2025, 08:37:22 AM »
This clown cut a fence to steal 400 pounds of avocados in Homestead. Then he claimed he planned to sell them to buy gifts for his kids.

Link to WFTV article

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Edel Perez, 29, is facing charges for stealing approximately 400 pounds of avocados from a grove in southwest Miami-Dade early Monday morning, according to authorities.

The incident occurred when deputies spotted a black Mercedes parked near the avocado grove on Southwest 217th Avenue and 320th Street. They observed Perez, who was dressed in a black hoodie, picking avocados and loading them into the car.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Monstera Deliciosa Tasting Notes
« on: September 11, 2025, 12:22:04 AM »
People in New Jersey are growing Monstera Deliciosa as a house plant right now, but it also makes tropical fruit. Who knew? According to the internet, Monstera sells for premium prices of $30 or more by mail order. In real life, you can also buy them at Excalibur fruit trees for about five bucks a piece. You can probably also find them in piles of landscaping waste by the side of the road, thrown out by people who don't even know their ornamental vine makes fruit. Thanks to a buddy who stopped by Excalibur to pick up some of these fruits for me, I can bring you my Monstera Deliciosa tasting notes.

General: The fruit resembles a super jumbo ear of corn, covered in green dragon scales and should be plastered with warning labels.

WARNING #1: Full of sharp crystals that will stab your esophagus. Make sure it's totally ripe or it's really painful to eat. When fully ripe, it's only moderately painful.

WARNING #2: “Some folks” find the name difficult to say and fudge it by muttering alternate names like Mozzarella DeLorean or Minnesota DellaRosa. Just get the first letters right and wait for the internet to correct your pronunciation.



Texture: Imagine a can of mushy corn niblets packed in a slimy thick syrup. Then imagine your mouth and throat feeling irritated for 6 hours after eating a spoon of that corn.

Sweetness: Intensely sweet in a most delicious way.

Flavor: Wow! I'm tasting an utterly delicious mix of pineapple and jackfruit. How can something so devilishly frustrating taste so good? Sweet, wild, unconventional and really fun until the pain hits. Eating Monstera Deliciosa feels a lot like kissing a woman you know will break your heart.

Rating: I love the taste and I am extremely grateful for the chance to try this oddity. If you can harvest some Monstera from a neighbor's plant, or get a few pieces cheap, then it's worth trying once or twice. Don't pay crazy money for it – one fruit yields less than a cereal bowl of niblets over the course of two weeks. Beyond that, there are way too many drawbacks to plant or even consistently eat this fruit. Including but not limited to:

  • Monstera grows into a massive, invasive vine that will take over your trees.
  • The fruit ripens slowly, exposing about one or two tablespoons of edible niblets per day. It's a lot of fuss over very little fruit.
  • One fruit can take up to a week or more to finish eating as you wait for it to gradually ripen.
  • Mold and rot can damage the fruit while you wait.
  • The fruit looks dirty, with black particles (seeds? mold? dirt?) all over the part you eat and everywhere else.
  • Slimy texture.
  • Even when fully ripe, it still caused me mouth and throat irritation.
  • Why not just make a smoothie or sorbet out of some pineapple, banana and jackfruit to approximate the flavor and skip the rest of the aggravation?


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I am about to remove 4 pups from my full-size Namwa banana mat. They are free to a good home. Only take them if you are looking for a large, tall pseudostem banana (16 feet?) that gets big and mats aggressively. Perfect for privacy or as a hardy pioneer species.

Located near the intersection of St. James and Prima Vista in Port St. Lucie. Message me if you want to come by.

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I'm going to Loxahatchee / West Palm / Lake Worth on Saturday 8/30 and I'm looking to buy some fruit from farms or private individuals. I have a friend coming to visit from Europe who hasn't tasted any of this cool stuff.

Looking for:

-Avocados (Dupuis, Simmonds, Brogdon, Bacon, Catalina, Miguel, Reed)
-Sapodilla (any variety)
-Carambola (any variety)
-Mamey Sapote (any variety)
-Mango (whatever is left!)

I might stop at Excalibur or Naga Gardens but also open to other suggestions and if you have fruit in your garden that you want to sell me, that works too. Happy to come to you or meet up wherever works.

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One of my very sweet neighbors has asked for my help with her garden. She grows some fruit but her real passion is making teas of all kinds. I've tried a few of them and it's wild how she combines ginger and turmeric and mulberry leaves and various fruit rinds into a hot or cold beverage.

She wants to expand what she is growing into a full blown tea garden. I made some basic suggestions like Roselle, Lemon Balm, Lemongrass, and Blue Butterfly Pea Vine. What else comes to mind that would work well and look nice in Florida 10A?

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SOLD A cool bundle of rare stuff. You get 33 total seeds for $39 + $11 shipping ($50 total). Payment by Zelle. USA only. Ready to ship.

Mammea Americana (3)
Imbe (5)
Achachairu (7)
Abiu (15)
Lemon Drop Mangosteen (3)



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Dellerman Gold Pineapples & Crowns
« on: July 09, 2025, 06:07:39 PM »
All sold out for now. If you don't have a tracking number from me yet, send me a private message.

If you missed out, or you just want pineapple crowns, I will most likely be offering more crowns in the near future. You are welcome to send me a private message if you have a certain request for a number of pineapple crowns or fruit if I do go back for more. Most likely it will be 4 big crowns in a large box for $60 - 70 shipped.



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Free Tropical Fruit Tasting
Port St. Lucie Botanical Gardens
10AM Saturday
July 19, 2025

Brought to you by the Treasure Coast Rare Fruit Club


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For $87.18 the 2025 Mango Festival VIP package included some perks. Was it worth the money over the standard $20 entry ticket to get the extra stuff?

  • Entry one hour early
  • Festival t-shirt
  • "Guided tasting" of 10 mango varieties

The early entry at 9am was crucial. I went in with a list of mangoes I wanted to try. Almost every vendor had racks of mangoes up on the tables and I found some crazy stuff including a Pettigrew, Alempur Baneshan and Ambrosia. The hall was almost empty for this first VIP hour and you could chat with vendors while taking time to select fruit from fully stocked bins. I bought about 50 mangoes from at least 10 different sellers. After 10am when doors opened for everyone, the aisles were swamped and huge lines formed to buy fruit which quickly became scarce. Elbows sharpened as guests competed for the few remaining Lemon Zest. Soon after the vendors put their trees up on the tables and only the most unfancied mangoes remained unbought.

The included festival t-shirt is 100% cotton with an eye-catching design - about as nice as you could expect for such an item. The shirt adds some value to the package, especially if you're the sort of person who buys the concert t-shirt when you go see Pink Floyd play The Wall.

The guided tasting turned out to be a bloody disaster - quite literally. Running a tasting presents logistical challenges, but for the money charged, it has to be better. The tasting rooms were tightly packed with 100+ tasters and the volunteer staff who cut and served the mangoes. The VIP Guests sat at long tables of 8 tasters with one volunteer per table. Understandably, many people wheeled in pushcarts of mangoes and trees, blocking movement. In Room A, Paul Nisson of "Fruitful Trees" youtube notoriety hosted and "guided" our tasting. Paul spoke into a microphone and PA system in the small room, almost shouting his way through familiar info which you better fact-check. He promoted his youtube channel, his lecture later that day and several other unrelated items during the tasting. I wished it had been a video so I could hit the mute button and just read the closed captions. As the event progressed, his overpowering volume and shouting became more objectionable.

Mangoes tasted included Edward, Angie, Sweet Tart, Maha Chanok, Lemon Meringue, Fruit Cocktail, Orange Sherbet, Coconut Cream and several other well-known varieties for a total of 11 mangoes. Each table had only one of each mango variety to be split 8 ways. It simply wasn't enough fruit, especially for small mangoes like Lemon Meringue. Can you form an impression on one bite? The volunteers bravely tried to cut the fruit and distribute the pieces after each mango was introduced over the mic. Volunteers were not told the serving order so they had to indentify, cut and serve the mangoes on the fly which caused confusion. The mangoes were served with skin on at room temperate on paper plates with a single napkin per guest. 11 mangoes split 8 ways works out to less than 1 and a half mangoes per person.

Many mangoes were overripe or poorly stored. Our Sweet Tart was the worst example I've experienced with an awful carrot flavor - the table nodded in agreement and laughter when I said it tasted of carrot. The Lemon Meringue was perfectly ripe and the best one I ever tasted. Our table lagged behind the others as the volunteer assigned to cut our mangoes struggled to keep up. He was working hard but obviously uncomfortable handling the knife. We were often still tasting a mango while Paul was plowing forward with his introduction of the next fruit over the public address system. As we tried to discuss our impressions and compare tasting notes, we were rudely shushed by another volunteer. Later she actually told me to shut up and be quiet as I discussed a mango we were eating with my friend across the table. Here I am, a paying VIP guest being treated like an unruly child.

Guests sitting next to our volunteer had politely suggested that he cut the mangoes on the cutting board, rather than holding them up in the air in his hand. As he cut the Orange Sherbet, sure enough, the knife slipped in his wet hands and he cut himself badly enough to jump up and dash out of the room for medical assistance. He was a polite young man and I hope it's not a bad cut. We struggled to get the attention of Paul and another volunteer. Paul came to our table and attempted to resolve the issue by picking up the bloody knife and cutting the bloody mango on the bloody cutting board as if he was going to hand it out to us to eat. We finally convinced him to discard the knife, cutting board and mango. Then Paul went back to the podium to introduce the next mango while we recruited another volunteer to cut for our table. After some time, another Orange Sherbet appeared for us to sample. By that point, any sense of "guidance" in terms of flavor or tasting was gone. We were asked to raise our hands if we liked or didn't like a certain mango with no exploration of the flavor, taste or texture. As a final complaint, I had hoped for some more exotic varieties, at least one or two of the 11 choices should have been exotic / new / rarely eaten (P-22, Apricot, Tymour, etc).

Folks who got the VIP pass for early admission and skipped the tasting probably came out ahead. They had extra time to shop for the rare mangoes we wished we were trying in the not very pleasant tasting room. Next year I will skip the tasting - more effort will be required to create an appropriate environment and better guest experience, and I'm not convinced it's practical to make that effort. It would require:

  • More napkins
  • Enough fruit to taste a decent-sized piece
  • Better guidance through the tasting, focus on flavor instead of "fun facts"
  • Let the tables talk, make friends, and share the experience
  • Bottled water
  • Mix in some exotic mangoes that few have tasted
  • Turn off the PA

Xain's mango party last week provided a far superior tasting experience. For five bucks which included a free barbecue dinner and some free mangoes.

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I've got a few extra trees. I do get down to WPB and Loxahatchee every once in a while.

-Cheena Jackfruit grafted 3g $65
-G1 Mamey Sapote (Guatemala #1) 3g $85
-"Improved Pollock" aka Lara-Pollock Avocado 7g $120
-Butterscotch Sapodilla oversized SOLD
-Fernandez Custard Apple 1g SOLD
-Campbell White Sapote 3g SOLD
-Guava Mango 3g SOLD
-ST Maui Mango 7g SOLD
-White Piri Mango 3g SOLD

-Sugarloaf Mango 3g $40
-Sugarloaf Mango 7g $65
-Sprouted Coconuts with roots $20

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Update 7/27: lots of new and rare mango seeds added. Pick whatever you want for $4/seed plus shipping. Minimum order 12 seeds. I can fit up to about 22 seeds in a small priority mail box for $11 shipping. The medium box will hold way more for $17. Payment by Zelle only. Seeds are dehusked, bagged and labeled. Some varieties will need a few extra days but most are ready to go now.

Seed Variety (quantity) if no quantity listed I only have 1
White Piri
Mesk

Giselle (2)
M-4 (3)
Pina Colada (2)
Cecilove (2)
Honey Kiss
Orange Sherbet (2)
Lemon Zest

Valencia Pride
Raw Honey
Cotton Candy
Lil Gem
Ice Cream
Zill O-29
P-22
Jehangir
Sweet Tart
Ambrosia
Nelson
Tess Pollock
Peach Cobbler
Sonpari
Mallika
Banganapalli
Pineapple Pleasure
Julie
Sunset
Dwarf Hawaiian
Rosigold
Neelam


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This Saturday morning from 9AM - noon at the Martin County Fairgrounds in Stuart, FL.

Address is 2616 SE Dixie Hwy Stuart, FL 34997

Anybody going? I might bring my dead Jamaica Mamey and see if the Master Gardener Help Desk can bring it back to life.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What is the best way to eat a mango?
« on: June 02, 2025, 02:40:38 PM »
As we approach peak mango season, how do you eat your mangoes? What approach gives the best flavor and best eating experience? The way you consume a mango can impact the flavor and how you eat it, for better or for worse.

I have picked up a freshly fallen mango off the ground and eaten it right under the tree with the fruit still warm from the sun. I have eaten mangoes picked green that ripened on the counter and were served at room temperature with the skin still on. I have had thawed frozen mango chunks. And pretty much everything in between.

Through all that I have my favorite way to eat mango that gives the most intense and accurate flavor, and best eating experience. The mango should be picked at the right time, mature but not overripe, and needing a few days to ripen on the counter. When the mango colors up and starts to soften, but before it becomes overly soft, I peel the entire fruit and then cut the meat away from the seed. I slice the fruit into bite-sized pieces and put the peeled slices in the refrigerator. At this point the mango tastes good but still not 100% ripe and still not at full intensity. In about 12-24 hours the mango will finish ripening in the refrigerator and the flavor and sweetness will intensify without becoming overripe. The fruit will become a bit softer. To me, mango tastes best eaten at this point, slightly chilled and picked up with a fork for a pleasant eating experience.

What is your favorite way to get the most out of eating a mango?

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I moved so many banana pups around I can't remember what I put where. This one just fruited and it is delicious. Here are the facts of the case:

  • Psuedostem is about 9 feet tall, very thick and sturdy
  • No distinct coloring or veining of the leaves
  • Bananas are short, thick and stubby, about 4 1/2" long
  • Delicious taste with a sweet lemony flavor, almost like lemon curd

Around the time I planted this, I had bought SH-3640, Hua Moa, Double Mahoi, some kind of Namwa, and a few others that were probably FHIA varieties. I lost the map I made. First photo shows the suspect banana on the left next to a longer supermarket banana on the right.












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I ordered a 5lb box of the Hipolito variety Caimito fruit from Lara Farms, and also some of the Lara Purple variety. The 5lb box contained well over 10 pounds of fruit and arrived less than 24 hours after the order was placed. That's good service.

Caimito is best cut open around the equator, giving you one half without seeds and one half with. You can scoop out the central seed core that usually contains between 4 to 9 seeds to eat it free of seeds. A similar form to Black Sapote but Caimito has firmer fruit texture and stronger skin. There is slight latex present at the skin and rind when not completely ripe.



The Lara Purple Caimito is a beautiful fruit slightly smaller than a baseball with dark purple skin. The colorful flesh feels like a grape in your mouth, with a juicy and squishy texture that retains a slight crispness and bite. The seed core does take up a large part of the fruit interior and I wish there was more edible flesh. Lara Purple has strong sweetness, rating about 8.5 on the sugar scale. I taste a concentrated coconut/dairy flavor that is incredibly delicious to me. The coconut sweetness reminds me of the canned Coco Lopez ingredient for Pina Colada drinks. Wow. This could get addictive!



The green skin Hipolito fruit turns brown when ripe and the fruit is larger than Lara Purple with more meat. The flesh around the seeds in particular is more abundant and overall the fruit is easier to consume than Lara Purple. Hipolito is not as distinctly sweet as Lara Purple, I rate the sweetness a 7 out of 10. The flavor is similar but more like lightly sweetened coconut milk with a subtle background flavor of banana. The taste is delightfully creamy and milky, like a melted coconut popsicle. If you like cow's milk and coconut you are going to love this. The closest fruit I have tasted is White Sapote.

I found the experience of trying Caimito very rewarding, and well worth the $60 + shipping price tag. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it – the coconut forward taste is irresistible to me. The Caimito is sweeter than coconut and much more convenient to open and eat, a perfect tropical treat.

Compared to the Custard Apple, another rare/premium fruit in season now, I prefer the Caimito. The Caimito flavor is straightforward and delicious, the seeds are easy to work around, and the texture is more appetizing. Which one is better, Lara Purple or Hipolito? A tough choice but in the end I would go with Hipolito because I prefer a less sweet fruit and really enjoyed the coconut milkiness of Hipolito. If you like sweet then go with Lara Purple but you can't go wrong planting or eating either one.

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I know it's short notice but maybe somebody reading this will see their dream property for a relative bargain. It goes to auction this Saturday. Just under 4 acres of land right next to the St. Lucie River on a major road with direct access to I-95. This parcel is east of I-95 and close to Nelson Family Farm and US-1.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2088-W-Midway-Rd-Fort-Pierce-FL-34981/47815486_zpid/

Suggested opening bid is $174K, I would be surprised to see it bring that much. With land in this area typically trading at almost $100K/acre, somebody could get an absolute bargain.

It is currently zoned commercial, so that would cover a fruit stand business along the main drag. Maybe you would need to change that to mixed use / Agricultural / Residential in order to live there and build an orchard. The lot across the street which is directly on the river went to auction last month. Zone 10A and very suitable for growing just about anything you want. I am a couple miles south with a full collection of tropical fruit.

I have no relationship to the owner/seller/agent and no financial interest in the transaction.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Durian Buffet - All You Can Eat - $30
« on: March 29, 2025, 09:47:29 PM »
Professional eater Joel Hansen pays 1000 baht (about 30 US dollars) for a 1 hour Durian buffet in Bangkok, Thailand. He gives his tasting notes on the different varieties on offer as he plows through plate after plate after plate of the king of fruits.

Emjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi9D79bXxEI

The video also features red jackfruit and mangosteen.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / San Pablo Custard Apple Tasting Notes
« on: March 20, 2025, 03:46:02 AM »
I've eaten Soursop, but have very little other experience with Annonas. I have been eager to taste more and Lara Farms recently listed Custard Apples for sale on their website. I ordered a box of the San Pablo variety, which came to a total of $114.75 shipped. Four fruit arrived the next day, all weighing over a pound. That works out to just under 30 bucks a fruit. One of the reasons I got involved with fruit trees was to save money on food, and that's working out great so far.



A San Pablo Custard Apple resembles a massive heart-shaped strawberry, complete with indentations on the surface. It looks delicious with all the colors of Valentine's Day. The reddish-purple skin covers flesh with swirls of pink and crème.

To eat, wait until the fruit turns soft and squishy, cut in half, and scoop with a spoon. The flesh is full of small seeds, like a watermelon, except each seed is coated in a slimy jacket making them harder to eat around. I stopped counting after 30 seeds. Each bite contains seeds so you won't be able to get a big mouthful of just fruit. This is not the kind of fruit you share on a first date, unless you met at the rare fruit council plant sale. In that case, sharing a custard apple would be a true test of intimacy, staring into each other's eyes as you chew like camels around the seeds and spit them out so you can plant a seedling tree together. True romance.

Close to the skin, the texture is gritty and grainy like an Asian pear. The San Pablo contains more stone cells than any Sapodilla I have tried. Near the center the fruit becomes soft and slimy. I wish I could describe it as creamy or custard-like but it reminds me more of mucus. Although that improves with refrigeration, the grainy and limp texture of this custard apple is a major drawback, and maybe the reason it's not more widely known.

The price, rarity, and vivid colors raised my expectations for taste. The fruit has strong sweetness, about 7/10 on the sugar scale with some tart balance from the flavor. I taste two main flavors swirled together. The base layer is strongly reminiscent of Asian Pear and mild banana. On top of that a ribbon of mixed berries weaves in and out. I taste tangy strawberry, raspberry, and boysenberry with pleasant sweet and sour notes. Ever tried a bag of frozen mixed berries after they thaw? That's what I'm tasting.

Some have described the flavor of San Pablo custard apple as raspberry yogurt. While that's close, I just don't taste much dairy, certainly not the sour tang you get in yogurt. The raspberry yogurt description at least approximates two distinct flavors that are not completely mixed.

While eating San Pablo Custard Apple for the first time proved exciting, ultimately I'm left disappointed. I struggled to get past the texture and the seeds. The fruit tastes very good, but not great. I can see it as an occasional treat, but not the sort of thing you would cut open in the bleachers at a little league game to enjoy with a bag of Doritos and a root beer. It's worth trying if you can find one for free or cheap, but at 30 bucks a pop, save your money. If you are growing fruit, and the goal is to make money, then this might be a profitable fruit to grow given the prices charged by mail order sellers.



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / San Pablo Custard Apple Seeds
« on: March 14, 2025, 05:22:36 PM »
I have a few batches of seeds from a delicious pink flesh Custard Apple, San Pablo variety. The seeds come from the fruit of a grafted tree. San Pablo is known for the red skin of the fruit and raspberry flavor. It's my understanding that the seeds will grow close to type so they are worth planting to grow as seedlings or for your grafting projects.

$1 per seed, minimum quantity of 20. Add a flat $10 for shipping regardless of quantity.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / 2025 Florida Avocado Season
« on: March 03, 2025, 06:05:17 PM »
Mango season might be more sweet and more sexy, but Florida Avocado season lasts longer. Let's document the complete cycle of 2025 Avocado Season in Florida.

I hope we can learn more about Florida's avocado calendar from flowering, fruit set, harvest and pruning practices. Submit your notes and photos on dates, productivity, flavor and ripening. I should have started this thread a couple months ago, but it's better late than never!

One last thing, this is Florida Only, sorry California bros. Don't want to mix up the data.


Super Hass blooming profusely March 3rd with bees pollinating


Choquette lagging behind, just starting to bud and show growth March 3rd

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I love Mamey Sapote and have planted a number of trees. I hope to use this thread to assemble basic information and tasting notes on the varieties as they become seasonally available. Anybody is welcome to post their tasting experience - my only request is that you try to provide some detail on why you like or don't like a variety, based on the texture, flavor, sweetness or some other criteria.

The varieties fruit at different times, so direct comparison won't be possible. At least we can log more details on when the varieties are fruiting in Florida, fruit size, and other qualities. Planting a Mamey tree is a huge commitment of time and size, so any more info we can add will help. With "new" varieties entering the home grower's orbit, we need info on flavor and season to help decide on planting Jamaica, Guatemala 1-5, Pozo Azul, Akil Especial, Cepeda Especial, K-40, and others.

I will start with some very basic notes on varieties I have accumulated based on research and limited personal experience. Consider this a very rough draft, subject to correction and update. Update added 4/3/25 from Julian's lecture notes at the Palm Beach fruit

  • Akil Especial: Summer, excellent flavor, less productive than Key West
  • Campbell Red: Feb - Jul, from TREC, excellent flavor, large fruit like Magana, not widely propagated
  • Cepeda Especial: Summer, excellent flavor, productive & vigorous tree
  • Copan: historic early variety
  • Excalibur: Nov-Dec, possible dwarf tree, uneven ripening?
  • Florida: May-June, super productive but takes many years to start fruiting, similar flavor to Key West
  • G1 aka Guatemalan #1: summer, from TREC, large fruit, flavor of "yogurt covered raisins", good texture, low production?
  • G2 aka Guatemalan #2: summer, from TREC not yet propagated, low production?
  • G3 aka Guatemalan #3: summer, from TREC, dry texture, small round fruit, cherry flavor, low production?
  • G4 aka Guatemalan #4: Apr - Jul, from TREC, small round fruit, creamy texture, flavor similar to G1
  • G5 aka Guatemalan #5: from TREC not yet propagated
  • Jamaica: Dec - June, planted 1972 at TREC, superior flavor, large tree
  • K-40
  • Key West: Summer, delicious, old school variety from firehouse in Key West
  • Lara: Fall, Key West seedling, productive, excellent flavor
  • Lorito: Summer, superior alternative to Key West
  • Magana: Feb - Apr, El Salvador, largest fruit, more compact tree, very good but inconsistent flavor with some ripening issues, alternate bearer?
  • Mayapan: Xain has this one, Alex notes poor flavor
  • Pace: Feb - Apr, same as Magana, precocious and productive, very sweet with some fiber, upright growth habit
  • Papa: Oct - Dec, from Cuba, dwarf tree, excellent flavor
  • Piloto: delicious, deep red, big tree with poor production, collector's Mamey
  • Pozo Azul: Winter?, dwarf tree, small fruit
  • Pumpkin Pie: May-Jun, Zill variety from Costa Rica, dwarf tree
  • Tazumal (aka Prolific): Dec - Feb, productive tree, TREC seedling, high quality flavor but uneven ripening
  • Vidal Redondo: Summer, excellent flavor, similar to Akil & Cepeda
  • Viejo: Jan - Mar, compact tree, small fruit, precocious, questionable flavor

Mamey Sapote trees have a vigorous upright growth habit except for these Dwarf/Compact Trees: Pumpkin Pie, Excalibur, Pozo Azul, Papa, Viejo, Magana

Ripening Issues: Tazumal, Magana, Excalibur

Precocious Trees (fruit young): Magana, Viejo, Tazumal

Delayed Fruiting from time of planting: Key West, Florida, others?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit Hunter White Sapote Trees
« on: February 25, 2025, 11:58:59 AM »
Did anybody go to Xain's World the Saturday before last for a Fruit Hunter White Sapote tree? I woke up early and made the drive down to Loxahatchee. I arrived to find 5 people crazier than me already waiting politely in line at the gate. I haven't camped out for anything since Led Zeppelin played Tampa Stadium in 1977. Down 140th Street, a line of hopeful fruit tree growers would form, all waiting to get their hands on the latest and greatest White Sapote. Which is, of course, the Campbell "tastes like flan" White Sapote, wait that was 2024. Now in 2025 it's the Fruit Hunters Giant Flan White Sapote from Homestead.

I spoke to Xain earlier in the week and knew that he would be putting out about 25 trees starting Saturday morning, and I wasn't worried at all about being able to buy one. I mean, nobody in Florida gives a flying rip about white sapote, it's not like we're talking about buying limited edition Air Jordans on black Friday. That was UNTIL a certain guy put out a literal hype video the day before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnIyHGux2R8

Xain was extremely hospitable, he brought out some fruit so we could snack while we waited for the nursery to open. I tried Rose Apple for the first time and really enjoyed it. I was lucky to get the Fruit Hunters tree, but I missed out on the Younghans. Lots of people missed out on the tree they came for, but Xain had many other new White Sapote varieties available, many that I am not familiar with. He will also have another hundred Fruit Hunter trees in a few more weeks.



I'm excited to grow this tree because it thrives in our local environment, and appears very productive. We'll see if it really fruits outside the normal white sapote season, I'm skeptical and wonder if the mother tree is simply so mature and so productive that some of the fruit can hang on there a long time?


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Just wondering if anyone in Florida still has any 2024 avocados still hanging around on their tree right now in early 2025. If you do, what variety? I see Julian still has Monroe for sale, but that's it. No Ronnie.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sapodilla Variety Box Tasting Notes
« on: February 07, 2025, 01:27:25 PM »
I love Sapodilla. I have eaten a lot of them and already have 5 young trees in the ground (Thomas, Morena, Silas Wood, Alano, and Butterscotch) so my decisions are made. While I wait for those trees to start producing, I couldn't resist ordering a sampler box from Lara Farms. The box contained the Tikal, Morena, Hasya and Molix varieties, an excellent selection. The fruit varied in size from baseball down to chicken egg.

When I eat Sapodilla, I am looking for sweetness with tropical dimension, the way that rum or caramel develops sugar's flavor into a complex and exciting taste. Sweetness level should be moderate but not excessive, and rounded out with some spice. I like a firmer texture when ripe, plus a little grit to complete the illusion that I'm eating a tropical pear. My favorite way to eat them is to peel off the skin with a paring knife and then eat it like a pear. I will start off with Tikal & Hasya.

Tikal Sapodilla Tasting
The first Tikal I tried was overripe with a soft, watery texture. Even when ripe the fruit has less body and bite than the others - it doesn't stand up well to chewing. Tikal lacks much texture but on the plus side for some, it also lacks grit. Moderately sweet with no acid component. The flavor is uncomplicated, tasting almost like granulated white sugar or maybe "sugar in the raw". In a generous mood I might say it reminds me of a weak, low quality maple syrup flavor. Tikal lacks spice and complexity. For most serious tropical fruit growers, Tikal will be a letdown on both texture and flavor. However, the mild flavor might be good for kids or others who avoid exotic tastes? Although decent and enjoyable, there are better options than Tikal.




Hasya Sapodilla Tasting
Cutting open a Hasya Sapodilla reveals a much redder flesh than other varieties. The redness increases with ripeness, as does the flavor. The texture provides some bite and firmness when ripe, along with a satisfying fine graininess. Not soft, squishy, or gritty. The moderate sweetness comes with caramel overtones, adding dimension to the sweetness. The flavor is full of tropical spice with cinnamon, floral notes and even hints of Mamey Sapote. The complex taste is both memorable and outstanding, and not overly sweet. I want to eat more and it has been a struggle to wait for the rest of them to fully ripen. The large fruit has small seeds and I consider this a top selection. I have heard some concerns about low production on trees.

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I have a few very healthy 7 gallon trees that are ready for a new home. They are duplicates in my collection. Local pickup in Port St. Lucie.

7 gallon Sweet Tart Mango: grafted by Zill, will soon be ready to put into a 15 gallon pot. Nice and tall, flowering. $75


7 gallon Sugar Loaf Mango: grafted by Zill, nice low branching structure, flowering. $75


3 gallon White Piri Mango: grafted by Tropical Acres, ready for a 7 gallon pot soon. Rare variety. $50


7 gallon Whitman Green Sapote: impossible to find right now, a nice healthy 7g with a strong graft union and branching nicely. $100


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