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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Season 2026
« on: February 06, 2026, 11:25:07 PM »
I appreciate the words of support and encouragement. I'll exercise patience and pray some of these trees rebound from the damage. If some don't make it, I will find a way to make the food forest better and think of ways to prepare for the future.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Whatya say for zone 9a
« on: February 06, 2026, 02:23:36 PM »
I can't offer any advice except to say that you have an incredibly delicious selection listed out there. It's good to see what is possible in a cooler zone. Nice work.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White sapote cold-hardness?
« on: February 05, 2026, 08:10:14 PM »
All of mine took some damage. I'm not sure how low it got, probably mid-20's but I also had a lot of unblocked wind from a huge corridor. The larger Denzler and Campbell trees in the ground will defoliate, I am unsure if they can recover. The potted Fruit Hunter's looks OK and the Younghans in a pot probably won't make it. I expected a great degree of cold-hardiness, that's for sure. Sapodilla fared much better than White Sapote.

Here's the Denzler tree yesterday. It probably looks worse today as the damage becomes more evident. Before the freeze, it was pushing new growth and setting fruit:


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Season 2026
« on: February 05, 2026, 02:43:37 PM »
If there's one thing growing mangoes has taught me, it's how to remain sanguine in the face of relentless failure and opposition. I have harvested far more food for my spirit than my body from my mango trees. The Great Florida Freeze of '26 demonstrates once again that I'm not in control and my plans for life and trees don't mean much. My neighborhood removed nearly 100 feral hogs in the last three months. I replaced all the trees damaged by the hogs. For the first time, I had abundant fruit set on Lemon Zest, Buttercream, Pickering and others. Just a few weeks ago I looked forward to a great 2026 mango season.

Bye bye, Buttercream.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2026 Cold Weather [Megathread]
« on: February 02, 2026, 11:21:33 PM »
Your in PSL west of 95? Looks like my mature coconuts will mostly survive, the younger ones may be dead. The mangoes looked good but I have not inspected yet in person.

I'm pretty far East, on the St. Lucie River and close to US-1. I thought the river/wetlands microclimate would help but it made no difference in this case. I can see the mature coconuts across the river in my neighbor's yard are turning brown as well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2026 Cold Weather [Megathread]
« on: February 02, 2026, 05:24:42 PM »
30F at 7am. Going to need an emotional support group after this.

Here's a hug from me. From what I can see out the windows, I'm afraid to go outside and see the full extent. All my coconuts turned brown, all the Mameys have dropped their leaves, and all the flowers and support plants are flattened to the ground. Even my neighbor's ornamental plants are brown and toasted. It's brutal out there.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2026 Cold Weather [Megathread]
« on: February 01, 2026, 03:02:58 PM »
I took some serious damage even though I ran the sprinklers through the night. I'm getting 70 degree water from a super deep well. Icicles formed on the leaves of the trees.

-Most mango trees, even small ones, look intact
-Mamey dropping leaves already
-Coconut palms all turned brown
-Avocados were not safe, leaves are wilting and turning brown
-Papaya plants were all carrying fruit and they lost all leaves and flowers
-Gros Michel banana died back to nothing
-Most other bananas lost leaves but look decent
-White Sapote looks fine, Loquat too
-All forms of hibiscus, edible and flowering, are toast
-Mulberries completely defoliated

That's what I can see from the windows. It's still too cold for me to go outside and I'm too demoralized.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Season 2026
« on: January 30, 2026, 11:38:40 PM »
Still at it so while I was eating my dilemma was but use overhead irrigation which I ever had time to switch to undertree irrigation my trunk wrap could get moisture behind it.

Is it just you working on this or do you have a batallion of Navy SeaBees helping out?  ;D

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Keep in mind the high winds forecast for the storm, 20mph winds with gusts up to 40. Secure your wrappings well or they will just blow away in the wind. The wind starts as early as Friday afternoon.

The wind will also make it very hard to keep any kind of localized heat source around the trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Land recommendations for south Florida
« on: January 29, 2026, 07:43:35 PM »
Every HOA I know is frustrated with their property management company or the reps they have to deal with. New neighborhoods are going up everywhere that have multiple layers of governance including CDDs. You can get into property management with minimal training and start your own business or join an existing company. Demand is high and it's easy to break in. I also know people in the business that just manage a few winter homes for rich snowbird clients. If you have accounting experience or construction experience there are specific demands for that within property owner associations.

If you are able bodied and can pilot a boat, you can find work maintaining boats for clients who are not here in the off-season. The boats need to be taken out regularly, serviced, and looked after. You don't have to do the actual hands-on maintenance yourself, just take the boat where it needs to go for service. You should get a captain license but that's not hard. I know a guy that does this and he loves it. Another option if you are a boat guy is marine salvage - a huge industry but might require more physical labor. You also have the option of working for a cruise line (ports in WPB & Miami) or as a private yacht crew member (different roles available).

Florida Power & Light is hiring near me, and I think so is the Fish & Game Police. So, lots of opportunity in Florida for any skill set.

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Thanks Vall and Alex! Good stuff. I had some Green Sapote planted and then I tasted the fruit (Whitman). While it was good, it was small, much smaller than any Mamey I've tried. I also preferred the flavor of Mamey, and as new varieties like Campbell Red and G1 came out (and I got to taste more Mamey), I ended up going with Mamey only. I hope I don't regret the decision, because Green Sapote has a place, especially when you've got more room than I do. I've heard stories of people waiting 8-10 years for grafted Green Sapote to fruit. I know that Mamey takes a lot of time as well, but that seemed excessive.

Does everyone pretty much prefer the Green Sapote flavor to Mamey?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thang Dang purple caimito
« on: January 28, 2026, 06:48:23 PM »
I'll be curious how it turns out when it fruits. I place a high level of trust in the Vietnamese approach to tropical fruit. They know what they are doing.

I'm growing Hipolito and Lara Purple. Both are extremely delicious. I thought about adding Burgess but I haven't tasted it. Still, Maurice Kong brought that one back from Jamaica.

What other varieties are you growing?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Land recommendations for south Florida
« on: January 28, 2026, 03:17:47 PM »
For $280K you get a decent house on a 1/3 acre lot that would fit a good number of trees. The house is in a decent section of Port St. Lucie, close to US-1 and right next to an amazing park on the St. Lucie River. The I-95 exit at St Lucie West Blvd runs right to it with all the major amenities along the way.

https://redf.in/j2OhmE

While far from perfect, the value for money is pretty solid at that price. I don't think you'll find anything better for the money in a location where you can grow mangoes.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting onto pond apples Annona glabra
« on: January 28, 2026, 02:58:45 PM »
It would probably be prudent to wait at least until the current cold snap ends before doing any annona grafting.

Of course. I'll be in hibernation until late February anyway. It's too cold for me outside.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Papayas!
« on: January 28, 2026, 02:55:38 PM »
Great work. Most of my papaya trees wait until they get a lot taller and thicker before putting on fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thang Dang purple caimito
« on: January 28, 2026, 10:58:02 AM »
Julie's Tropical Plants in Apopka advertises a Caimito with this Thang Dang name. The plants look similar to yours, and the label color is the same. Maybe they came from the same wholesaler?

https://www.instagram.com/p/DHfA2kUMpBC/?hl=en

No idea what Thang Dang really means, maybe it's just Vietnamese for purple?

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The gold standard is to have your own temperature probes out there in the garden. By this point there must be some high tech app to monitor them and set alerts while you watch movies on the couch and eat snacks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting onto pond apples Annona glabra
« on: January 26, 2026, 06:57:32 PM »
Yeah definitely worth the experiment considering the tree was only 13 bucks 🤣 I have a bunch of seedlings I was going to experiment on but why wait?

I had a low area in the yard that gathers water so that's where I put the Pond Apple trees to make use of an otherwise useless area. Once spring arrives and my trees start to push, you can take some scions if you want.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting onto pond apples Annona glabra
« on: January 26, 2026, 03:19:49 PM »
I have a limited selection. Painter's Cherilata is thriving the most on Pond Apple. Guillermo Pink Ilama is lagging behind. San Pablo Custard Apple is somewhere in the middle. A worthy experiment, at least.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thang Dang purple caimito
« on: January 26, 2026, 03:17:58 PM »
Did you get it at Nelson's? That's not a variety I've seen before but the world needs more named purple Caimito varieties.

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You will want to keep the White Sapote away from the house, people say the roots are invasive and they are vigorous growers. Mammea Americana is also a vigorous tree but I would say very front yard safe - nobody recognizes the fruit and it's not ripe until it falls off the tree. Black Sapote and White Sapote should be fine in the front yard too.

For the front yard I also like green caimito like Hipolito, Sapodilla, annonas that stay green when ripe like Soursop, etc. Stuff like Lychee, Longan, Avocado or Mango are going to draw attention and thieves more than less recognizable fruit that stays green. For fig you could try Ficus Auriculata.

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I forgot about Pina Colada. Great pineapple flavor, when you can get production. My tree is very reluctant to flower. I'm hoping for a better year this year, tree is almost 4 years old.

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My Bell I got from Xain is now about the size of your tree.

What was your impression of the flavor?

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You should try Pettigrew. It is the parent of many delicious mangoes and to my palate, has the strongest pure pineapple flavor I have tasted in a mango. It's also incredibly delicious and I look forward to eating some this summer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Land recommendations for south Florida
« on: January 19, 2026, 02:02:06 AM »
You will get the best bang for your buck in St. Lucie County, probably in the Fort Pierce area. There are still lots of residential lots close to the Intracoastal (aka Indian River) of good size. Other options would be Jupiter Farms, Loxahatchee, The Acreage and then random lots in Palm Beach County that are bigger than average with no HOA. Those are going to be a lot more expensive.

Your best bet for something super cheap is to buy a dumpy old house from the 1920's in Fort Pierce on a half acre lot with an empty lot next door in a foreclosure auction or bank sale. There is no frost here, the ocean currents keep the temps nearly identical to West Palm Beach, and I think we are less prone to hurricanes due to the geography of the St. Lucie River and the way the Florida peninsula bends back in to the west north of Lake Okeechobee.

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