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My peach tree is looking like a bumper crop this year, but I assume it is because little to no fruit set last  year, either from a late frost or the tree is wanting to become biennial

I ordered a batch of seeds and they arrived in great shape!  Seller was very helpful.

That is encouraging.

My mallika is 8ft tall in ground and makes thousands of fruitlets but I am not sure why they all drop.  Ive tried lots of water and very little water, same result.  Maybe it needs boron

To get over the same guilt of culling healthy trees, I now graft the fruiting scion onto new seedlings when possible so at least the scion isn't lost.  I try to keep the new tree as a bonsai as small as possible. 

Also, when pruning keep in mind the fruiting habits of various types.  Trees that fruit on new wood like guavas should be fine to prune, and things like jackfruit that fruit on internal wood should handle pruning fine.  Trees that fruit on year-old wood won't get much of a crop if they have to be aggressively pruned.  I got had some in-ground citrus trees that made huge crops of fruit initially, but once I had to prune them to keep them from overgrowing they basically made no fruit and were clearly a waste.  With citrus you can regraft onto extreme dwarfing rootstock, which is what I have done for their replacements, but I don't think this is an option for most other tree types.

Are your lychees growing well?  I have a few air-layered ones and they are always dying back as fast as they grow.

And has your mallika mango fruited?  Mine is super healthy and produces tons of fruitlets every year but none hold to maturity.  It is a tease

My pink guava is one of my favorite fruits.   This is far too subjective a question. 

I think you should wait until you can try them all yourself.  What I have been doing is growing anything that will fruit in a container... in a container.   And if it is awesome I plant it in the ground.

For things that aren't likely to ever fruit in a container I just plant them in the ground and wait for them to fruit and then cut them down if they aren't as good as the competition.  I had a dozen citrus trees in-ground and dug up most of them.  Now I have a bunch of artocarpus and annonas in ground, with the assumption that most will be ripped out and only the best ones kept. 

I dunno what is typical for garcinias in general but I did find a million sprouted g. hombroniana / seashore mangosteen seeds on the ground when I visited the fruit and spice park.   I had ordered some cherapu seeds from a few years ago but got no germination.  I wish somebody would sell seedlings :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Finding Land in South FL
« on: May 30, 2023, 04:51:10 PM »
Oh I didn't realize you were trying to turn a profit.  Yes, definitely greenhouses are not the way to go then :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Finding Land in South FL
« on: May 30, 2023, 02:30:11 PM »
If you don't actually want to move to Florida, you can buy land where you do live and build greenhouses.  That is what I am doing.  Obviously it costs much more and is more restrictive than growing outdoors in an appropriate climate, but moving can itself be expensive and isn't always realistic.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wow, that's a big Jaboticaba tree!
« on: May 30, 2023, 02:43:10 AM »
I planted a marang seedling in my greenhouse last year.  Some time later I read they get like a hundred feet tall. 

Oh well, future problem

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Finding Land in South FL
« on: May 29, 2023, 03:58:28 PM »
If you own land you don't live on you have to be able to defend it from squatters, thieves, vandals, dumping, etc.

For what you are describing you might be able to essentially lease somebody's unused backyard

I have a grafted Montgomery in a container, so far it grows slower than mangosteen.

I have one, I will PM you

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is this pot big enough?
« on: May 27, 2023, 09:29:42 AM »
Yes, but MGGS seems to vary regionally and you may need to adjust the ratio.  For my area it is heavy muck and I have to add mulch to it

Brian, what has done well in pot for you?

All of my grafted citrus have been great in containers.  I think the issue with Meyer lemon is that it is commonly sold as a rooted cutting and maybe they do not do well on their own roots.  Most non-lemon citrus are grafted, lemons are one of the few that readily root and Meyer lemons are very popular

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is this pot big enough?
« on: May 26, 2023, 10:51:59 PM »
Yes, and make sure it has holes in the bottom!  Some decorative pots do not

I have had meyer lemon trees in containers for nearly a decade now and they have NEVER been healthy and happy.  They are always dropping leaves, fruit, looking haggard.  It seems they are always grown from cuttings, I am going to try grafting one and see if it does better on a trifoliate rootstock instead of its own roots

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is this pot big enough?
« on: May 26, 2023, 09:17:47 PM »

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Best tasting italian lemon ?
« on: May 26, 2023, 06:21:27 PM »
Today I picked a St Teresa lemon, a Pink Variegated Eureka lemon, and a Buddha's Hand citron and tried them all side by side.  I do agree that the Italian lemon is less bitter than the Eureka type, though I think I actually prefer the Eureka for its stronger peel flavor.  The Buddhas Hand is pretty bland compared to the others.  I have read that citrons have a stronger oil content in the rind but I am not tasting it here. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: question about planting banana pups
« on: May 26, 2023, 09:57:43 AM »
I cut two pups off my banana for the first time and left them in a pot just to see if they would survive.  I did not leave any roots whatsoever.  They are still alive but too early to tell. 

I was going to trash them anyway so I figured I would at least try and see if they sprout roots

Shipping a bushy 3gal plant is likely to cost far more than the plant itself.  I would think you can find one in a ~4in pot for a reasonable price. 

edit - not as bad as I thought.   $25 to ship UPS ground a theoretical "7lb 3'x1'x1' package to Chattanooga"

btw you probably want two pitangatubas for pollination as they don't set fruit well on their own.   They fruit really early from seed, if you find two small seedlings you can probably have flowers within a year or two.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ISO Guava seedlings
« on: May 26, 2023, 09:12:48 AM »
I meant the mexican cream guava fruit is sold in stores and you could plant the seeds from them.

But yeah I also bought a "mexican cream" plant from lowes and it turned out to be a delicious pink guava which is what I was actually looking for anyway!

I wouldn't worry so much about the current crop, there is not much you can do to "force" them to hold on.  You are likely stressing the tree with change.  I would focus on letting it stabilize with healthy foliage and then it will be in a great position to hold a quality crop.  Meyer lemons flower often so you shouldn't have to wait long.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FEIJOA (pineapple guava) questions
« on: May 25, 2023, 06:36:55 PM »
Thanks.  I started a couple seedlings from some fruit I had, but I don't know much about them.  I guess I could try grafting onto them if scion becomes available

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: FEIJOA (pineapple guava) questions
« on: May 25, 2023, 10:50:32 AM »
Can these realistically be grown and fruit in a container?

One thing you may be able to do to set yourself apart is proper (zero) sales tax for states where food/seeds/fruit-trees are exempt.  My state Pennsylvania they are exempt yet Ebay, Etsy, and maybe others still charge me sales tax to buy.  Likely other states have similar rules but this is such a small market that the big marketplaces don't bother to handle it

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