The Tropical Fruit Forum

Quote from: martweb on May 08, 2025, 10:59:54 AM

Sorry for my late reply. I was in contact with Agrumi Lenzi several times and I guess they already have some New Zealand Lemonades but still small. You could ask them to reserve one for you and maybe in 3 or 4 months you'll get a plant.

Nice, thanks a lot for the info!

Quote from: Florian on May 12, 2025, 01:33:10 AM

Yes, they have it: https://www.eisenhut.ch/de/shop/citrus-lemonade-z148_z148

In fact I already have that one, but think it's not the same. They say their Z148 is C. paradisi cv. Sweeti x C. limon, but NZ Lemonade apparently is C. limon x C. reticulata...

But hey - I'm from Solothurn, too (or rather very close)!

Quote from: Florian on March 25, 2025, 04:40:32 PM

My glauca x shekwasha looks quite dead after its first winter while all my other citrus look ok. We only saw -6/-7 C. I don't protect any of them.

Oh, that's sad.

It makes one wonder about the hardiness of the Eremo hybrids. Was it a small plant?

Quote from: Florian on March 07, 2025, 02:41:20 PM

Quote from: sc4001992 on March 07, 2025, 01:55:27 PM

Crazy, that's a world's record for citrus varieties in one place. Thank you.

Eisenhut nursery here in Switzerland have 540 varieties in their catalogue :
https://eisenhut.ch/en/shop?field_kuerzel_value%5B0%5D=Z

Wow, that's awesome!

Lou's complete list is 512. I may try to scrape the varieties from eisenhut to get a list of them to see what Madison and eisenhut have in common and what is unique to each one.

I'm really glad this much richness of variety is coming available nowadays. It's a far cry from the old days.

• In binominal nomenclature the second part of the name (specific epithet) is always written in lower case
• Citrus triptera is an old name/synonym of trifoliata
• Citrus trifoliata Dragon fly is called flying dragon. It has nothing to do with the insect but its contorted branches resemble a flying dragon hence the name
• There are better Citrumelos than Swingle, e.g. 5star or Nr. 82 and better Citranges than Carizzo, e.g. Morton
• Sanford Curafora never ripens in time for me
• Clemyuz 2-2 is reported to be both earlier-ripening and better-tasting than 3-3. Mine haven't fruited yet, so that is hearsay.
• I have never heard of Ghansha but if you mean Changsha/Changsa, it is a good choice. Of course, coming from China, there is probably no "correct" way of writing its name but everyone uses Changsha
• What do you grow the Hindsii kumquat for?
• Many citrus on your list may or may not ripen before winter. Some frutis may take considerable frost but many will be destroyed after only -5C or so. My Meiwa fruits were mush after only a few degrees below 0 and so were my Shekwashas. I see no point in planting out hardy plants when their fruits ripen too late.

• I like Rusk citrange a lot because it matures early and produces small, deep orange and mostly seedless fruit that I find highly attractive. It doesn't taste very good but makes an acceptable citrange-ade.
• I also love my Clementine Oronules. It has been hardy here but we haven't seen anything below -8C since I planted it out. It ripens early and tastes much, much better than any of the trifoliate hybrids
• Get one of the hardier grapefruits like Enzo, Welker or Bloomsweet. They ripen late but they taste excellent and perhaps you succeed with them nonetheless
• Generally, I'd try more Satsumas (Miyagawa, Xie Shan, Iwasaki etc...) and Clementines (Clemenules, Orogros etc..). They are all more or less precocious and have no off-flavorus since there is no trifoliata involved

Florian, I will help my Citrangeremo to grow and fruit better next year. I shall take some more years for the final evaluation. But you perhaps do better when you start with E. glauca and produce your own hybrids. It may well be that they bloom before your Citrangeremo.
I have already Changsha x E. glauca (two small seedlings, perhaps also a third one).