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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surinam cherry leaves turning red.
« on: March 09, 2018, 01:55:06 PM »
What part of San Diego do you live in?  I am just curious because your profile says 10B.  I think my house is offically 9B but we didn't get any frost.

Clairemont 92117 just above Marian Bear park (hillside overlooks Hwy 52 x Genesee)

...thanks for pointing this out, appears I am 10a per USDA... not sure if this changed in the last couple years?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surinam cherry leaves turning red.
« on: March 09, 2018, 01:20:42 PM »
Here is a 2' tall seedling that is planted on my hillside:

BEFORE FROST (picture taken 2/18/2018):

AFTER FROST (frost hit 2/20/2018):

PHOTO OF NEW FLUSH (different plant):

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Root cuttings outside or indoor?
« on: March 06, 2018, 10:00:11 PM »
Fig is super easy to root outdoors in San Diego.  When pruning my trees for shape, I will typically place 6+ cuttings (12-18" length) directly in the ground in the same hole as the mother tree... no rooting hormone or other treatment required.  I cut the end at 45 degrees and scrape some of ghe bark - then plant about 3-4" into the soil.  Same watering schedule as the mother tree.  And within a couple months they're rooted and ready to give way.

Grape works pretty much the same way, but I've seen one semi-commercial grower root his cuttings under high humidity using plastic sheeting over a raised bed.

Can't speak to the others.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: North-facing hillsides
« on: March 04, 2018, 09:40:29 PM »
Our yard is north facing and drops into a canyon.  In addition to shade and height (so as not to shade out lower growing trees and plants), another consideration needs to be temperature - the lower elevations in our yard see much more extreme swings in summer and winter.  Within our yard, I have tried planting stuff all over the place over the last 10 years - with a lot of failures early on.

I have learned to keep things in pots for longer than I normally would, and test out different locations in the yard.

My in-ground plants/trees include:

Guava (Asian, Tropical White, Red Malaysian)
Lemon Guava
Sugar Cane
Grumichama (E. brasilensis)
Pitanga (Surinam Cherry)

Citrus (Valencia Orange, Cara Cara, Eureka Lemon, Key Lime)
Stone Fruit (Apricot, Peach, Nectarine, Plum, Plumcot)

In addition to the plants listed above, my neighbors (with same north facing slope) also are growing:


And I'm probably forgetting some.  The last frost 2 weeks ago killed my third attempt at growing Papaya on the slope... if I can get one to survive through one winter, I'm positive I can get it to fruit here - I've seen plenty fruiting nearby.  I also have a lot of plants in containers waiting to go into the ground (right spot, right time, right size, etc) including Cambuca and a Brazilian Guava, both of which are doing very well.

So, north facing hillside doesn't guarantee death to your plants - but we're not putting in a pool anytime soon, and if you have an opportunity to buy property that faces south/southwest, well... I would.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help with ID - possibly a Eugenia?
« on: March 04, 2018, 08:40:02 PM »
Anyone have an idea of what this might be?

I found it in a small container with a pitanga (surinam cherry) I planted several years ago.  Sometimes when I have seeds that don't germinate, I put them into pots with other plants.  In this case, there was a label in the container - but it was sun faded and I couldn't make out a single letter.  I repotted into its own 1gal container, but want to label it with something other than "mystery" if possible.

Any help figuring out what this might be is appreciated...

Campus and Campas are mislabeled names but the same. Campos is from Spain.

Behl, the photo of Campos fruit looks much more like atemoya than cherimoya (i.e. Leaves are pinnate, not as broad); also, searching for Campos and Campas in Google, I find several earlier scientific references to Campas (and alternately Campa) in Spain - but few for Campos.

i.e. This article:

That is a good looking fruit!  It appears to be different from what I have as Campas (which should be the same as what JF and Behl have as Campas).  My Campas tree has broader/wider leaf structure and more 'typical' cherimoya fruit structure (namely "plates") than what you are showing as Campus.

As an aside, I second JF's earlier comment - great selection Behl!  For anyone looking for Campas scions, please reach out to the author of this thread (Behl) - my posting here was meant to help clarify/understand the difference between Campas and Campus only.

The picture is from JF and is label as campUS.  Is this the same as Campos or campas?  I am very confuse.

The nursery I bought my Campas tree from (8 years ago?  I'll have to dig through my records) told me that Campas is from Spain where it was a commercial prospect, but did not fair well in transport and so wasn't widely planted.  My tree has been the source of scions for several members here.  Below are photos of some of the first fruit I harvested... it does have protrusions like El Bumpo, is self-pollinating, and can produce some good sized fruit.

Here's another photo of Campas fruit from this year... less protrusions on this one.  Delicious fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Frost of the year
« on: February 22, 2018, 12:10:43 AM »
My small papaya trees are dead... everything else looks fine as of right now.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Frost of the year
« on: February 20, 2018, 03:59:30 PM »
Simon, we got frost as well in Clairemont (92117)... unusual enough that I snapped a picture of the frost on the hood and roof of my truck.

Haven't had a chance to check the trees.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon - deformity
« on: February 17, 2018, 06:18:15 PM »
Fukushima. Now you go on and git over to the citrus forum. YA GIT!

Lol.  Nobody reads that sh!t and I wanted everybody to see my weirdo fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Lemon - deformity
« on: February 17, 2018, 05:13:47 PM »
I was thinking about adding some more citrus to my yard this year, including Buddha's hand.... but then I found this on my lemon tree today.  It's the only "deformed" fruit out of 50+ currently on the tree.  what gives?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help with Inga ID please
« on: February 17, 2018, 04:08:59 PM »
I have this one Inga remaining from 3 different types of Inga fruit I received several years ago... can't find my notes on the fruit, and I moved the seedlings around so many times there is no way my notes would have held up anyway.  Two of the fruits (pods) were long, one was short and fat... again, no idea which this seedling came from.  It was about 8' tall before I topped it and cut back some of the branches.  Hope someone can help ID.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tagging trees
« on: February 16, 2018, 07:25:46 PM »
The first of my PlantsMap tags just came in... super excited!  Our community does a Spring Garden Tour and my goal is to have all of my trees tagged on the walking path I built before the 2019 tour.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tagging trees
« on: February 12, 2018, 11:21:00 PM »
Thanks Bill!  Sample ordered!  I'll post a picture when it comes in.... this is exactly what I have been looking for.

Looks like katydid eggs.

Thanks!  Surprised this is the first time I've seen their eggs - we have lots of grasshoppers.

I've read through this thread and haven't seen anything that fits... so, here goes... my Haden has been in the ground for approx 10 years and has struggled the whole time.  It's starting to look decent, so I was planning on taking some scions and grafting to my Manila.   When clipping leaves, I found this...

They look like legless/headless ticks (same size and color).  They have a hard shell with yellow/orange contents.  Any idea what this is?  How harmful is it to the tree?


email sent re: Big Red sugar apple scions

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: January 27, 2018, 11:00:59 PM »
Thanks Adam!  I obtained another "Red Hybrid" from the same source that looks very different (guessing that one may actually be Red Hybrid then), as well as two others that were labeled as "Grimal"s (but they are slightly different from each other) and a couple of seedlings I started from Red Hybrid fruit I collected in Brazil.  (plus a Cambuca that came from a generous member here).

I'll post photos when each finally fruits.

And yes, I know I have a problem, that's why I'm here. lol.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: January 27, 2018, 05:03:57 PM »
Adam... looking to you for positive ID of this jabo... finally flowering for the first time, and I'm beyond excited.  I have at least 3 varieties of jabo in the ground (they are from different sources, have different growth patterns, and different leaf structure).  This was sold to me as a Red Hybrid and it's fruiting after 2 years in ground (was purchased from FL as a 3' tall plant)... currently about 5 1/2' tall. (Sorry for the sideways pictures... cant figure out how to turn these 90 degrees).

Since I haven't met a jabo fruit I didn't like, it doesn't matter to me what this one is called, just want to make sure I label it correctly.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit ID in San Diego
« on: January 27, 2018, 04:41:22 PM »
Okay, it's already been said, but this is strawberry or lemon guava.  See photo of my in-ground "lemon guava" bush that produces hundreds of delicious fruit annually... so many that I leave some on the tree for the wildlife.  Sometimes even the birds, squirrels and rats can't eat them all...

FWIW, it's already starting to flower again.

Why does this ebay seller only have ONE (1) negative feedback in the last 12 months?  Leaving negative feedback will also help others avoid the same debacle.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please help ID these two Jaboticabas
« on: November 29, 2014, 01:00:36 AM »
Those look like my Grimal (as ID'd in thread below)

I am constantly cutting back my passionfruit - it grows and fruits like crazy.  Nothing I have done has slowed it down - most of the pruning I have done is at least 10' away from the main trunk.  Single vine is covering 40'+ of chainlink fence.

Plus you can use as rootstock for the black one.

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