Sorry about your JB Brad!
The maluma looks exactly like hass to me. Seems suspect. But maybe just a hassxhass seedling.
Suspect?
Or course it looks similiar, it's a sport of Hass, just like you'd find with other fruit trees where one tree stands out, is different, out of an orchard of say..... 500 trees. For example my VERY favorite grapefruit, Rio Red, was a sport of an old popular grapefruit, Ruby Red selected in the citrus growing area of the RGV Texas. Looks very similar to Ruby Red but the flesh is very red with a reddish tinge to the skin when mature. It was propagated via tissue culture then released to the public and commercial grower. Same with Maluma, it is propagated via tissue culture, cloning.
Again, a clone of the original with different attributes, traits. Some will be appealing to those (who hold a certain criteria) some won't. As you know I have a vineyard and with each varietal there are a few to many clones available for sale. One clone might have a large open cluster with smaller grapes, another clone might have a smaller bunch that has bigger grapes and a tight cluster. It's still the same varietal. There were about 8 clones of Merlot available when I went shopping for that varietal. I chose the proclaimed "best" sourced from a vineyard in Beaucastel France.
Grow hard,
Mark
one of the links you posted said it was a chance seedling at the maluma ranch. With "unknown" lineage. Its obviously hass parentage. The odds of getting what appears almost an exact clone of hass from a chance seedling seems pretty unlikely. Then I assume this new variety has been patented? So basically its hass but you have to pay royalty? Thats what Im getting at.
You have to realize Im always skeptical of everything Mark. I want to know the details and who is making money off of everything. Whether its fruit or medicines, technology, war, etc.
That said, you got some of them maluma scions to share or you just teasing us?
Ill happily grow one if its available.
I put in a bunch of hass trees on dusa clonal rootstocks this year. The dusa trees are in a row side by side with a row of zutano rootstock trees. I would like to try this new mulama hass type side by side also. They claim it makes nearly 2X as much fruit as regular hass. I find these claims hard to believe. For me seeing is believing. These claims may be based on higher density of planting. If you grow hass you will see it loads itself with fruit to the point of sagging and breaking branches. So when someone claims their new hass clone makes 50% more, it seems unlikely.
But who knows? Like I said, Ill grow it if its available.
On a similar subject, if you look at the dusa rootstock hype they claim hass makes more fruit on it than other rootstocks. I read the technical documents and trial data etc that the university published. They did all kinds of experiments to come up with this claim. But nowhere in there did they include the zutano seedling as a control group. Its like a whole bunch of academic masterbation they put out and failed to include the gold standard as a reference. I mentioned this to Gray Martin, he seemed to be in agreement that data could be twisted to try and force a conclusion with this rootstock business. It was an interesting conversation.