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Kaz,
Not sure why you're not responding to my messages or question on this thread, but that's fine it's your right to refuse to sell to me. 

It's just confusing to me since I've shared stuff with you for free.

Janet

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Kaz,
Are you getting my messages?  I've sent a couple with no replies.

Janet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: November 21, 2023, 11:20:15 PM »
Yard and greenhouse plants are looking great! 

What's your assessment of the the black eugenia repanda?  Does it need a second plant for pollination?

What opuntia variety are you growing in the third pic from the bottom?

Janet


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starting a farm in Southern California
« on: November 21, 2023, 11:12:53 PM »
Thank you all so much for the encouragement and positive comments!  I'll answer questions and put together a post this weekend.

Janet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starting a farm in Southern California
« on: November 17, 2023, 05:54:41 PM »
There's more I can post about and share if there's interest, but it takes time to go through photos, etc, so don't want to write just for myself.  I've got lot's of plants to take care of. ;D

Janet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starting a farm in Southern California
« on: November 17, 2023, 05:30:56 PM »
This picture is taken from the bottom of the swales giving a view of the contour lines.


First summer after planting 2021


October 2021


March 2023


Bananas and some plants got beaten up and we lost a lot of mangoes this past long, cold, wet winter.  Looking back from the beginning though we've come a long way.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starting a farm in Southern California
« on: November 17, 2023, 05:16:05 PM »
After the swales were formed that first summer, we sowed over a couple hundred pounds of cover crop seeds before the rainy season started in fall.  This ended up being a huge waste, the birds and rabbits ate it all.  Weíve learned to rely on the natives and weeds for groundcover and chop and drop.

The first winter we drove out to the farm almost every time it rained to observe how the rainwater flowed on the property and if the swales would capture and hold the runoff.   

The main access trails that we cleared on the native parts of the property were also formed into mini swales on contour.

These 2 pics are of the swales at the top.




These are trails through the property, mini swales




We were pretty excited and surprised by how much rain the swales were collecting.  We still try to drive out to the properties whenever it rains to observe and figure out how we can improve. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starting a farm in Southern California
« on: November 17, 2023, 04:42:35 PM »
This is the flat area of the farm when you first enter the property, pic was taken June of 2020.


On this flat section, we laid out 8 swales on contour using a Bunyip water level.  So basically, each row is at the same elevation to capture water and prevent runoff.  Scott rented an excavator and with the help of our son, Eric, they formed the swales for planting.  This was done during the middle of summer in over 100F. 







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starting a farm in Southern California
« on: November 17, 2023, 04:09:51 PM »
One of the first things Iíd like to share is an example of the difference you can make by harvesting rainwater.

This is a picture of an area we thought would be a good spot for a pond taken June 2020.  Scott used an excavator to dig out the space.





These pics were taken this past winter.  Scott is in the upper right so it gives an idea of the size of the pond.  In the second picture you can see where we are channeling rainwater into the pond.




This third picture is on the other side of the pond, Scottís in the same spot as previous pictures.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Starting a farm in Southern California
« on: November 17, 2023, 04:08:17 PM »
Iíve posted previously about an old avocado orchard we are restoring in Fallbrook.
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=49059.0

This post is about the first property we bought a couple of miles away.  We refer to this property as the Farm and the second as the Orchard.

In May of 2020, we found a 16 acre property in San Diego County to start our family farm.  We had been looking at farm properties on and off since 2006.  There are really nice farms for sale, but anything with a decent house and mature trees come at a premium.  We were looking for a diamond in the rough where we could build value over time through sweat equity.

The previous owner had cleared the flat area at the top of the property which I think is about 4 acres.  They put a tiny house trailer on it and put up solar panels and a little shed.  The structures are not built well.  Scott put some temporary supports in areas that were falling apart.  We will rebuild, but for now weíre focusing on the land. 

We are hooked up to city water for irrigation, but one of the first things we invested in was a well.  They had to drill twice because the first hole collapsed.  The well is 490 feet deep and we get about 35 gallons per minute. 

Most of the property has been left undisturbed and is covered with natives.  Itís completely overgrown and thereís lots of dead underbrush and old trees that need pruning and lots of love.  We have to clear trails to access the property and thereís a lot of poison oak. 
There is a seasonal creek that flows for half the year and when the rainy season starts in the fall, the property comes to life.  When we first visited the property in early May, we could hear the creek flowing from the top of the hill.  There wasnít any access to see it, but it was one of the main reasons we decided to buy it that day.

For those not familiar with the climate in Southern California, we usually donít get any rain from late spring until the fall around November.  Thatís the biggest challenge to farming here.  The natives have adapted and go dormant during the summer months, so the property seems so dry especially after the creek dries up around the beginning of July.

Our goal is to develop our farm using concepts of agroecology and utilize rainwater harvesting techniques to try and be as efficient with water as possible.  We are working to restore the native ecosystem, grow a diversity of food, and co-create a beautiful farm with nature.

Janet

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Looks like you can't be added to waitlist for some items.  I would check his site in March or Sept when he posts inventory for sale.

Janet

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I remember learning that it takes a few months for calcium applied to the soil to become available and it's one of the nutrients that is best applied to the soil instead of foliar applications.  So gypsum should be applied in the fall/ winter.  I apply a fall micronutrient foliar application, no nitrogen, in my home garden in the fall, in my climate flower buds for spring growth start swelling fall/winter.   I also spread compost from my worm bins before the winter rains.

At the farm, I just spread llama manure from a neighbor last month, this takes a while to break down so I wanted to get them under the plants before the winter rains. 

I think one of the main concerns about fertilizing in fall/winter is you don't want tender new growth that hasn't hardened off to prevent cold damage, so don't apply nitrogen to push growth if you get cold temps in winter. 

Janet

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Cultivariable is working on increasing their foundation stock this year so not much inventory available now.  He expects to have many new varieties for release next year around September.  Because he is not offering pre-orders any more, you just have to add yourself to his waitlist for any item out of stock and you'll get an email when they're available.

Peace Seedlings offers some Andean root crops, this is Dr Alan Kapuler's daughter's seed company.  They update their inventory in January.
https://peaceseedlingsseeds.blogspot.com/

As far as I know, Cultivariable is the best source, but he's a one man show doing this as a hobby, so it takes time to get his genetics.  I have always received my orders from him even if it was a year wait.

Janet

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I had limited success with okra, too. I think the biggest problem is nematodes. I think I have stumbled on a game changer, though. Okra is rediculously easy to graft. Below is a picture of an okra grafted to cranberry hibiscus (H. acetosella). Easiest thing I ever grafted and healed in only 3 days. I wish I would have grafted it at the beginning of summer instead of the end.



Thanks for this tip!  White velvet okra was one of my favorites when I trialed a few varieties, but nematodes have been a challenge for me.  https://trueloveseeds.com/products/white-velvet-okra

Do fava beans grow in Florida?  I plant these in fall/ winter during our rainy season and they're harvested late spring.  Aprovecho select is an excellent variety.
https://www.adaptiveseeds.com/product/vegetables/beans/fava-bean-aprovecho-select-organic/

Janet

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Yangmei Giveaway
« on: November 06, 2023, 07:17:54 PM »
72, 77

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"Thank you! Iíll take a free pack. Sorry for the comment I was feeling feisty this morning, but when people try taking advantage of others, comments could and should be expected...but ya the trade with you was one of the worst experiences Iíve ever had on the forum...super stressful, and the packaging wasnít even the worst part...and for the record the two leafed, not ready to be shipped yet seedling you sent died, quickly. Howís that nice, healthy Inga Laurina I sent you? Hope all is well!"

Was that an apology?

Elouicious, thanks for sharing these.  Look forward to growing them.

Janet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fuyu Persimmon Tree- Broke In Half
« on: November 04, 2023, 12:30:02 PM »
Brad, how hot does it normally get in Poway?  My mom has an old Fuyu tree in Sacramento and it produces a bumper crop every year.  She regularly gets temps in the 100's during summer.

SHV, did your replant your persimmon in the same spot as your old tree?  I've heard fruit trees suffer from replant syndrome because of the dying roots of the old trees, so it's advised to not plant related trees in the same spot.  Old vineyards and orchards will replace the soil when they replant new trees.  I planted a small bareroot coffee cake persimmon in Fallbrook and it set over 20 fruits in its second year.

Janet

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I'll take a pack please!

Janet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Natural Farming?
« on: November 03, 2023, 11:20:36 PM »
Fliptop,  I'm sure I would love your garden it sounds awesome.

Satya, your property sounds like paradise!  Even if your practices aren't applicable in my growing conditions, for me it's inspiring to see beautiful places and I love to see how fruit and food is grown all over the world.  I've planted vetiver grass to stabilize the hillsides on our properties, so we have at least one thing in common. ;)

Whether it's a patio or deck container garden, veggie beds, people's yards, greenhouse plantings, farms, etc., I really do love seeing it all and hearing about what people's favorite plants are.  I find the desert beautiful, too.

I think my main point is by sharing, we learn and inspire each other to keep growing and to try new foods and fruits and create beautiful spaces wherever we are.

Janet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos in san diego
« on: November 02, 2023, 02:02:30 PM »
I had a horrible winter and my mango trees got a real ass whooping so I stripped most of my trees of fruit to give them a year to recover.

Same, half of the trees I planted died this winter including my 2 largest Sweet Tart and Pineapple Pleasure that were in the ground 3 years and growing well about 6 feet tall. Iím not sure how cold it got, but there were sheets of ice on our containers holding rain water.

Brad, Iím going to try your strategy, I check on mine constantly. ;)  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos in san diego
« on: November 02, 2023, 11:58:56 AM »
Johnny, your trees and fruit look beautiful!  Is Seacrest the same as Triple Sec?  I have Triple Sec so look forward to trying it from your assessment.

Janet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos in san diego
« on: November 02, 2023, 10:47:03 AM »
Brad, that's exciting to see your mango trees are coming into production!  All your hard work is paying off!  Nice job! 

Mine at the farm are still too young to produce.  Home tree only produced a couple fruit this year, they're still hanging.  My Glenn usually ripens around Thanksgiving.

I have a large mature seedling mango tree at the orchard, but the fruit set late and they look like they have a ways to go. 

Janet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Natural Farming?
« on: November 01, 2023, 08:25:55 PM »
Fliptop, it's great that you can grow such abundance without much effort or irrigation.  It's a wonder why everyone wouldn't be doing the same in your location or under similar conditions.

Can it really be that easy?  I must be doing something wrong. ;) 

How much rain do you usually get in a year?

Janet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida Natural Farming?
« on: November 01, 2023, 02:31:12 PM »
SHV, awesome to hear about your success with harvesting rain water.  That would be great to see videos of your farm.  I agree, that some practices that are successful in other places may not work in SoCal. 

I've watched a lot of videos and read lots of books and blogs where the grower states that you can grow abundant food with zero irrigation or that a certain plant doesn't ever need to be watered.  I often look up the climate data and average monthly rainfall totals where they are growing, to see how applicable their advice will be for me.  I don't think most people realize that we get zero rain from late spring until fall and that we can go for periods of time with less that 6 inches of rain in an entire year. 

I believe there's a lot of room for improvement in how we steward the land and make better use of precious rainwater.  The more that we share our experiences and trials of what works and doesn't, the greater the possibilities of creating regenerative systems. 

I've also been working on selecting and breeding for plants that are better adapted to my growing conditions.  I think this is also an important aspect of natural farming.

Janet

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achacha in California?
« on: October 31, 2023, 06:16:53 PM »
Nice, that'll be exciting once they start to fruit.  Are you also growing Luc's?

I'm going to plant a couple of both in the ground at home, it doesn't get as cold here as in Fallbrook. 

Janet

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