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Kwai muk (a. parvus)
lakoocha
a. gonshanensis
a. nanchuanensis

Not california 9a.
Florida 9a. maybe.
These varieties can take a freeze and still come back.

Thanks Ryan. I was wondering why the Lakoocha was in the greenhouse at fruit and spice park.i tried a small fruit and it was good. I got 1 seedling of it surviving maybe a year

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Annona Dioica and Globiflora graft to Cherimoya and survive and flower in Nor Cal. Coaxing fruitis another thing. Kwai muk is glacially slow and no flowers so probably just a cool ornamental for CA.
Had Kwai Muk been fruited in FL I wonder . The fruits were sour as can be when I tried them in Hawaii.

Thanks Jonah I’d love to get those Annonas grafted someday. So far I found Spinescens grafts to cherimoya good so far but I’m afraid to try it outside the greenhouse. Yes Kwai Muk is so slow growing. A guy in Modesto Ca has a fruiting tree but it’s over 10 years old and I don’t think it produces much

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Also hybrids have proven to make species hardier. Atemoya or Cherilata for example. Sugar apple and reticulata have no chance of surviving here but the hybrid works. I would love to hear of a Kwai Muk hybrid and I’m also very excited for papaya hybrids

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Also this question made me want to start a hardy rare specie and hybrid discussion. So I think it’s pretty cool Kwai Muk survives unprotected no problem here but so far that’s the only one I’m aware of. Any wild species? For a while for Annona cherimoya and Atemoya were the only ones but now I’m discovering A. Rugulosa, Emarginata and a few others can survive. Pouteria is also very sparse. Lucuma, green sapote, and sp Santa Catarina are all I’m aware of for CA 9B. For Garcinia so far none are proven but I have hopes for G. Multiflora and xanthochymus. I don’t mind sour fruits btw and I generally like fruits that are not very appreciated like Ubajay for example. So I would appreciate any recommendations even if they aren’t as high quality as their relatives

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I tried bunch and have a few approach grafts set up but I’m starting to think they don’t work. Although there’s many pilly Lilly’s that are different species so maybe one of them is more compatible. I’ve killed many wax jambu so I’m hoping wax jambu grafted on rose Apple might work better

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Just subscribed 👏

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB black Sapote scions
« on: May 21, 2024, 11:02:34 PM »
I’d love to hear updates on this. I have a black sapote tree in the ground for around 4 years. It’s pretty hardy on its own rootstock. Virginians graft would be cool to see if it makes it even hardier

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Another great order. Thanks Kaz!

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Thanks Mark!

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My 3 trees from this order unfortunately died but I have rootstock. Any kind souls want to sell me some scions?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: pink banana (musa veluntina)
« on: April 09, 2024, 12:28:51 PM »
Let me know how it goes. I’ll sell some seedlings if you want. I think I planted in normal peatmoss perlite mix

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: February 29, 2024, 11:22:26 AM »
Yeah I had a feeling this guy was hyping up random fig trees he found instead of actually growing out seedlings and cultivating new varieties. Yes there are some fig seedlings in the wild but it’s hard to tell that they are really that much different from varieties that are already named. Lots of people want to think the fig tree they found is special. I also get excited to find a wild seedling

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Che, medlar, arbutus trees
« on: January 10, 2024, 01:46:42 AM »
I have Che seedlings and medlar seeds available. I have 2 varieties of medlar and macrocarpa is very good and they ripen on the tree

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jarilla chocola
« on: December 18, 2023, 08:54:50 PM »
The whole plant seems to go completely dormant. It will look like it’s dead but it will grow from the roots in spring

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ruby longan doesn’t fruit in California?
« on: November 13, 2023, 09:23:34 PM »
In Florida I saw one blooming in June. The bees and beetles were going crazy on them



Some old pictures of the fruits






Wow! That is stunning! When do they bloom in comparison to lychee and longan?




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Valley, ca thread
« on: November 13, 2023, 11:06:50 AM »
This guy in Modesto has some really cool mature plants.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HVbqS8OhavM&pp=ygUbR3JvdyB0cm9waWNhbCBmcnVpdCBtb2Rlc3Rv
Pretty sure he’s fruited Kwai muk and lychee which is not common in north California. My climate in Dublin is a little different but I’m also having success with those unprotected in winter

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Ruby longan doesn’t fruit in California?
« on: November 12, 2023, 07:49:14 PM »
I was going to buy a Ruby longan but the guy told me it won’t produce fruit? I was thinking maybe they just produce a few fruit compared to others but he seemed sure it won’t produce

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The lemon drop mangosteen would probably appreciate a nice windowsill or greenhouse for this coming winter

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: For Sale: Annona spinescens seeds
« on: October 21, 2023, 04:23:02 PM »
Sending Dm

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I'm growing Eugenia pyriformis (which im co-opting the common name as Sun Drop), which is cold hardy and remniscent of the Eugenia stipitata/victoriana.  I think victoriana is too cold sensitive to do well for me in 9b but E. pyriformis totally rocks it and produces great fruit

Just curious what other rare Eugenia’s you’ve tested outdoors or maybe ones that haven’t done well? Only one that’s died on me so far is rainforest plum. Did fine almost all winter and then died early spring. I’m going to try again though

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New mulberry graft fruiting -- remove fruit?
« on: September 09, 2023, 09:52:24 PM »
This happened to mine too and plucked them this time. Last year I let 3 fruit ripen on a Pakistan fresh graft and the graft ended up dying eventually

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I’ve been selling trees so I can have room for all my new stuff from you haha

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What kind of things did you find at the places you listed?

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