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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB black Sapote scions
« on: May 19, 2024, 01:43:06 PM »
Hello! Iíve heard that D. nigra has some graft compatibility on D. virginiana and am interested in getting some black Sapote scion wood from high quality named varieties, preferably from a mature tree that has already fruited. Iím a little skeptical of the project as there seem to be so many graft incompatibility issues within the persimmon family, but Iíve got some extra seedlings, so, what the heck.

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Thanks Nate! Received my plant quickly and in great shape. Really appreciate it!

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I think May is good here for grafting pawpaws. They need to be leafed out. Itís possible they could get scorched if grafting into summer, but I toss my grafted trees into shady conditions anyway.
Iím only just starting to get named varieties. Last year, my 2 favorites were Allegheny and KSU Chappell.
Maybe you mean ďTropical TreatĒ? I have this one, but no fruit yet. Thereís a variety traded around on other forums called ďCherimoya WestĒ thatís supposedly got cherimoya flavor. And an unreleased KSU variety referred to as ďPiŮa ColadaĒ. I hear Susquehanna is great, I havenít tried it yet, KSU Chappell and Potomac are sometimes called similar and theyíre both good. I only had a couple Overleese last year, maybe theyíre first fruits and will change, but they werenít particularly ďtropicallyĒ tasting to my memory.
Generally, I find that freshly dropped pawpaws have a bit of a tropical vibe, but I actually prefer them counter ripened when they remind me more of a baked dessert.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: March 01, 2024, 02:08:59 PM »
Also I highly recommend you attend his next Scion exchange and bring your rarest best varieties to share, while the fig hunter sits in a booth next to you and sells all his for top dollar. Let him shit on you.


What's your source that he's rebranding popular figs?

Here's one example.



I grow a ton of figs and know a little about this so I guess Iíll keep chiming in. The fig in this quote is considered to be a wild seedling. Both ďSacred OriginĒ and ďthe fig hunterĒ found this fig. They both named it. And they are resolving the problem of synonymous fig names. No big deal.
I think there has been an instance or two where it can be hard to tell whether a fig is a seedling or if it is a named variety. I seem to recall some disagreement about a ďseedlingĒ looking an awful lot like White Adriatic.

Compare their varieties to the ones on this site

https://onegreenworld.com/product-category/fruiting-trees-shrubs/fig/?orderby=price-desc

This is really poor evidence. Identifying fruits typically requires much more comprehensive and intentional photography rather than a singular promotional marketing photo. Interestingly, One Green World is hopping on the CA seedling bandwagon. Black Manzanita is a tasty seedling popularized by Alastair, I think heís on here as FigoVelo.

Look, I think Iím allergic to people being crapped on online. I canít seem to help myself. My heartís not in standing up for this guy but here we are.

lol, no thanks. Iím way less cool in person

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: March 01, 2024, 12:09:20 PM »
What's your source that he's rebranding popular figs?

Here's one example.



I grow a ton of figs and know a little about this so I guess Iíll keep chiming in. The fig in this quote is considered to be a wild seedling. Both ďSacred OriginĒ and ďthe fig hunterĒ found this fig. They both named it. And they are resolving the problem of synonymous fig names. No big deal.
I think there has been an instance or two where it can be hard to tell whether a fig is a seedling or if it is a named variety. I seem to recall some disagreement about a ďseedlingĒ looking an awful lot like White Adriatic.

Compare their varieties to the ones on this site

https://onegreenworld.com/product-category/fruiting-trees-shrubs/fig/?orderby=price-desc

This is really poor evidence. Identifying fruits typically requires much more comprehensive and intentional photography rather than a singular promotional marketing photo. Interestingly, One Green World is hopping on the CA seedling bandwagon. Black Manzanita is a tasty seedling popularized by Alastair, I think heís on here as FigoVelo.

Look, I think Iím allergic to people being crapped on online. I canít seem to help myself. My heartís not in standing up for this guy but here we are.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: The Fig Hunter
« on: February 29, 2024, 12:14:55 PM »
I think the mission of the guy is to collect, and sell, fig varieties that he finds which he thinks are wild seedlings. California is special in that the fig pollinator wasp has been naturalized and we do get new varieties appearing as a result. One of my favorite figs, Eveís Black Cherry, is a found CA seedling, so this mission does have value. And a friend of mine found a fig in Benicia, CA, which he calls Benicia Dark Unk, which is a beautiful and excellent fig. I think itís probably the same fig thatís marketed by the fig hunter as Corazon de la Bahia. At least that one fig is great. Probably, not all of them are good.

He and I donít communicate well, and got off on a bad foot trying to talk about the Black Fig Fly, a newly introduced, major pest of figs. People can easily further the spread of this pest by taking infested fruits and plants (there is a soil-borne portion of the life cycle) from areas with the pest (mostly southern CA) to areas without (Iím concerned about northern CA). So, while itís nice to share fruits and plants, ignorance of pests can be a real bugger.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sapodilla taste
« on: January 23, 2024, 05:29:01 PM »
I tried these ďChicoĒ in Kauai last month. Found them at a farmers market. They were not good. Pretty soft and juicy, not sweet but also not astringent. I would say funky, maybe some sort of vegetable flavors. Only sapodilla Iíve tried. Iím guessing Iíll like named varieties better.



What a bummer... the fruit that I've tried are almost overpoweringly sweet (that's saying something since I have a pretty big sweet tooth). Maybe too much water around the harvest period for the ones you tried? You should try ordering a mixed variety box of sapodilla from Lara Farms when they have them back in stock and see if you like them better.

EDIT: Oops, I just realized you're also located in California and can't order the fruit to be shipped over... guess you'll have to make a pilgrimage to Florida to acquire decent fresh fruit in that case. I found some chicos at my local Seafood City market in Sac, but don't think I've ever seen any at the Vallejo location. The ones I got from Sac were mediocre ones that were imported from Hawaii anyway.

Iím pretty sure that Iíll enjoy good quality named varieties. Iím growing seedlings, theyíre doing well with the winter so far. But, they are growing sloooooow. Hoping to graft them one day

Yeah, I'm sure you can't go wrong with any of the named varieties. Glad to hear your seedlings are doing well in our NorCal winter so far, and they sure do grow slow. It gets scorching hot during the summers in Davis where I'm at and I notice that my grafted Alano and Hasya trees grow much more quickly when it's super hot outside.

Hope you have success with your seedlings, hopefully you can get some budwood from some of the forum members here. As a "Plan B", I know Tropical Acres Farms in Flordia also sell scions of Alano, Gigantia, Hasya, Martin, Molix, Morena, Oxkutzcab/"Ox", Tikal, Thomas, and Silas Wood (I don't see "Makok" listed as available for some reason... guess it's just too similar to "Silas Wood" for them to grow it).

Thanks for the tip!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sapodilla taste
« on: January 23, 2024, 05:07:38 PM »
I tried these ďChicoĒ in Kauai last month. Found them at a farmers market. They were not good. Pretty soft and juicy, not sweet but also not astringent. I would say funky, maybe some sort of vegetable flavors. Only sapodilla Iíve tried. Iím guessing Iíll like named varieties better.



What a bummer... the fruit that I've tried are almost overpoweringly sweet (that's saying something since I have a pretty big sweet tooth). Maybe too much water around the harvest period for the ones you tried? You should try ordering a mixed variety box of sapodilla from Lara Farms when they have them back in stock and see if you like them better.

EDIT: Oops, I just realized you're also located in California and can't order the fruit to be shipped over... guess you'll have to make a pilgrimage to Florida to acquire decent fresh fruit in that case. I found some chicos at my local Seafood City market in Sac, but don't think I've ever seen any at the Vallejo location. The ones I got from Sac were mediocre ones that were imported from Hawaii anyway.

Iím pretty sure that Iíll enjoy good quality named varieties. Iím growing seedlings, theyíre doing well with the winter so far. But, they are growing sloooooow. Hoping to graft them one day

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Anyone growing the Pink and/or White Tropical Guavas sold by Four Winds Growers? Iím growing both of these in pots and am curious if people like these fruits. Iím thinking of planting them in ground the Spring.

Tropical guavas are tricky for us in northern califonria because the fruits are ripening in our coldest and wettest months.  I have not had a good tropical guava that is grown outdoors in the ground, they just turn out flavorless and watery. Maybe if we get a drought year, there is potential for good ripening conditions. At this point, I think the only way to do tropical guavas will be potted or in the ground in a hoop house where conditions can be controlled a little more. My farm is right above 4 winds growers too, haha.

Do you think potted guavas outside would do better than in ground?
I donít have a greenhouse. And probably wonít.
If pots would do better than in ground, Iím wondering if good drainage on a slope would work well. I do have that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sapodilla taste
« on: January 23, 2024, 03:27:27 PM »
I tried these ďChicoĒ in Kauai last month. Found them at a farmers market. They were not good. Pretty soft and juicy, not sweet but also not astringent. I would say funky, maybe some sort of vegetable flavors. Only sapodilla Iíve tried. Iím guessing Iíll like named varieties better.



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Anyone growing the Pink and/or White Tropical Guavas sold by Four Winds Growers? Iím growing both of these in pots and am curious if people like these fruits. Iím thinking of planting them in ground the Spring.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pouteria lucuma
« on: January 18, 2024, 03:46:22 PM »
Tim kindly gave me a couple of the seeds from the original post, which I planted. Both grew well and just recently I noticed a fruit set on one!


This post from earlier in the thread appears to be in Vallejo, CA. I mean, maybe the members info was updated since posting? But this is promising for Bay Area folks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fino de jete
« on: January 13, 2024, 06:54:16 PM »
But pretty much all cherimoya taste really nice.

Are there particular ones youíd say donít taste nice? Beginning cherimoya grower here

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this lucuma, canistel, or Ö ?
« on: January 08, 2024, 10:45:45 PM »
I may be asking this prematurely, but can I graft lucuma scions onto canistel rootstock?

Iíve heard ďyesĒ, but lucuma is more cold hardy than canistel, so you might not be doing yourself a favor grafting that way

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I had terrible luck sprouting many of the ďArazaĒ guavas. A total bust on the hybrid and others. I think Iíve got a tiny Araza Grande going. If anyone has hybrid Araza seedlings for trade or sale, Iíd be interested in the Spring.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Winter fruits on Kauai recommendation?
« on: November 26, 2023, 11:17:30 AM »
Iíll be visiting Kauai this winter and am hoping to find some excellent fruit. Iíll be in the Princeville area and donít really know what fruits I can hope to find. Iíve had mixed success in previous visits. Can anyone recommend a great place to find an assortment of high quality fruits this time of year? Thanks!

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Congrats to Aaron!
The number was 50.
Contest is over.

Awesome! Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Yangmei Giveaway
« on: November 07, 2023, 01:02:55 AM »
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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Free Yangmei Giveaway
« on: November 07, 2023, 12:59:24 AM »
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Aaron - forum member here
has a bunch of cool stuff.
He is in CA?
I got some cool ksu stuff from him.

Thanks, Ryan, yeah, I sell pawpaw trees. Iím a licensed propagator of KSU Trademarked varieties:
KSU Atwood TM
KSU Benson TM
KSU Chappell TM
Trees are going dormant now. Grafted in May of 2022 and in 12Ē pots. Asking $50 each + shipping.
Personally, Iíve found pawpaws to be tougher than a lot of what Iíve read online. But some people with more experience than myself (and in different climates) caution that pawpaws are better planted in the Spring than in the Fall. Something about the way theyíve evolved dormancy. The roots apparently arenít actively growing in the Winter and may be prone to rot or some kind of problems. I may have some of that wrong. Anyway, I planted trees here in zone 9b in Napa, CA in the Fall with no negative impact. Iím happy to sell dormant trees now, or active in the Spring. I might have a few other named varieties next Spring too. If interested, feel free to reach out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: sc4001992 Betty#1 fig trial updates
« on: October 27, 2023, 09:39:01 PM »
Looks like Iíll have at least one extra. If someone Kaz sent these to fails to root theirs, I should be able to share a tree with them in the Spring.




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A friend of mine yanked out a root sucker and offered it to me. I have grafted Honey Jar to it. It grows, but slowly. I think the root sucker has little roots at present. Iíve only eaten the odd jujube that shows up at the grocery store. So far, Iíve never really enjoyed them. Probably theyíre low quality? People seem to like Honey Jar.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Paw Paw tree's
« on: October 12, 2023, 01:27:02 PM »
that was my 1st fresh pawpaw custardy texture reminded me of its related cherimoya but softer the fruit had this almost flan taste going on I really enjoyed would make great ice cream i bet.  I put all the seeds I got out of the fruits in the fridge ill plant them in a month or so.  Crazy to think that pawpaw are the biggest native fruit to north America and almost went extinct during world war 2.
In aaronn message he states that planting in the spring maybe be the best bet due to pawpaw roots may not grow much during winter dormancy.  I was reading the roots are sensitive.  I like that Deer dont like Pawpaw either and you can plant them close 5ft spacing to emulate how they grow in the wild.  Im thinlking about planting a row now and planting another row in spring to compare.

Deer eat them here, don't believe that hype.

Deer have eaten them here too. I have a small orchard fenced in on 3 sides. Itís mostly figs, but some pawpaws, persimmons, feijoas, and a couple other things. The pawpaws were planted toward the back of the orchard, furthest from the unfenced side. Those have never been nibbled by deer. But I got cocky and planted some more young pawpaws right at the most exposed point where deer would have cover to enter the orchard. With that level of exposure I had some pretty serious munching on those pawpaws. 2 died and Iíve protected the rest with small individual fences. I think that deer arenít looking for pawpaws but that they will eat them in a pinch.

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