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Hey anyone know any where in S. FL where I can get a 3 gal Custard Apple tree? I'm not too particular about variety. Pine Island nursery wont have any until the early fall, and Excalibur doesn't have.

Or does anyone have any scions to sell and ship?


I guess some will call it a good problem to have, but I have an alano sapodilla I guess around 6-7 years old (from a 3 gallon). It's  around 7 feet tall, but the thing is it reached that height over 3 years ago.

Since then it's been in a constant cycle of fruiting and any growth has been negligible, occasional leaf growth. At any given time theres 20-30  fruit in various stages and it flowers every few months. 

The fruit are good, but I want the tree to grow. I try to push growth by fertilizing and other nutrients more regularly than I would, I've never pruned it just because growth is so few and far between. Any suggestions?

Oh I should add that it's technically on ground. But it was planted a 25 gallon pot partially sunken (to get around some HOA rules for the front yards) about 4 years ago and it's roots have long ago broken into the ground.

Anywhere in Broward County I could get a couple decent sized scotch bonnet pepper plants?

Hey my maha is bearing for the first time, and my iman pass and has fruited once before but the birds got the couple fruit on the tree then (now its loaded).

Any advice on when to harvest these two varieties would be greatly appreciated.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sugar apple flower question
« on: May 09, 2017, 09:58:50 AM »
I know there are other threads, but the answers aren't clear and I need a quick answer because of hand pollinating timing concerns.

This flower partially opened up today..there are several that seem like they are a day or two behind this one...

Is this female or male? Do i pry it open or wait til it opens up (tomorrow morning?) and then try to collect pollen?


Wife recently went down to Jamaica and had some of these. She was told they were Chinese Guineps which is term on the island I'm familiar with but usually in reference to lychees. Not sure what these are, but she described the taste and texture as similar to fruit from our sweet heart lychee tree. Skin remains green when ripe and  the plentiful flesh separates easily from the seed. I'll try to ask her uncle who gave her the fruit, more about where he got them from, what the tree looks like etc. But does anyone recognize? I have a few seeds that I will plant and see what happens.

I'll post pics of the seeds later...

Have some new growth (including what looks like some flowers) emerging from my sugar apple tree. Some of the edges around the new leaves are black and brittle...

Sun burn or something else I need to spray for?

it doesn't get much if any morning sun, and while it's been warmer recently it hasn't been all that hot, at least I dont think so...It does gets plenty afternoon sun.


Getting a few more scions then i have root stock for...anyone in S. FL has any that's a good size for grafting? Not picky about the type..

Tropical Fruit Discussion / What's up with these Sapodilla leaves
« on: February 06, 2017, 02:36:33 PM »
So I have (until now) a perfectly healthy alano sap, it's been potted for about 3 years now in my back yard where it's been somewhat shaded. I recently moved it to the front yard, still in the pot but half-way buried, so it can eventually be in ground (it's a way around our association rules for fruit trees in the front). Anyway that was last week and now I'm noticing a rusty discoloration on many of the leaves (especially the older ones). I did spray with some foliar nutrients after moving it, nothing the tree is unaccustomed to, and was wondering if it was staining...was also wondering about sun burn and shock from moving into full sun...but it hasn't been that hot or that intense re: sunsine...

Fungus maybe?  But now it's getting more air flow than ever before...

the changes seem so dramatic and quick its hard for me not to connect it to the move..

here are some pics:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Lychee Bloom Jamaica (Florida?)
« on: December 28, 2016, 08:38:20 AM »

Currently in Jamaica for the holidays...this 30+ year old lychee trees (and many others) blooming like crazy in central Jamaican Highlands, apparently this tree produced 1200 pounds last season ...wondering if our Florida trees have started ?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Annona pot culture, recommendations
« on: August 03, 2016, 07:37:04 AM »
I know there's a lot of annona info on this board, but just have a quick specific question(s)....have a couple spots on my walkway from the street to the house that were being held by some potted citrus ...I'm still very new to Annonas so wanted to know about some good options, if any, that can do well in our S. Fl climate and stay potted indefinitely....

Something that can remain smallish and easy to manage, and it would be cool to have a less common variety.

Productivity is a bonus only,  not too fussed ..if I can get a couple fruit in a reasonable time would be good enough.



Tropical Fruit Discussion / Where's the rain?
« on: April 26, 2016, 08:50:02 AM »
Was trying to find an el nino topic to piggy back on instead of starting a new one..but anyway ...

Where's the rain? South Florida has been so hot and dry the past month to 6 weeks with no real rain in the forecasts.

Starting to worry about fruit drop, unfortunately schedule doesn't make it easy to get out to do regular watering.

I know we are still in the dry season but this seems a little drier and hotter  than usual.. El nino?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / School me on Annonaceae Family of fruit please?
« on: November 27, 2015, 08:46:04 AM »
Hey Guys,

Before someone directs me to do so, yes I know there's a wealth of info out there on this forum, and I've tired to sift through, but there's really little introductory to get started in this family of fruit, and I'm pretty lost as to what the best options are...So that's why this post. Most of the conversation on the forum assumes previous experience with these fruit.

 A little background first: growing up I was familiar with soursop, sweetsop and custard apple, and wasn't really fond of any. But reading these fruit forums makes me realize there's tons of other varieties out there, and I particularly like that these can produce fruit beyond the typical mango and lychee fruiting periods in the summer.

I'm ready to abandon all my citruses now and make space for something else.. I give up. Too much disease, pests, fungi etc.  Just not worth it anymore, and all the fruit they produce are compromised.

And I really don't want to go with yet another mango, lychee, sapodilla etc. Already have enough of those.

So talk to me about the custard apple family please...: When i hear you guys talk about annonas, rollinas, atemoyas, cherimoyas etc..I'm lost.

I'd like something pretty easy to manage, that wont grow too big, with sweet fruit and highly productive, and preferably fall/winter bearing.

What do you recommend, and especially for this area (South Florida)?

Also, is there any place locally to try any of these varieties that would have them now? Excalibur? PIN?


Citrus General Discussion / Is this an Asian citrus psyllid?
« on: September 09, 2015, 05:10:59 PM »
Saw a bunch of these on some emerging growth on a dekopon...

This what I think it is right? If it is, what am I obligated to do now? I have a bunch of potted citrus stuff  (including this plant) all in a row touching each other.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Ceylon Mango
« on: July 28, 2015, 10:50:02 AM »
Currently vacationing in Barbados and came across a wonderful little mango called the Ceylon. Not familiar with it, so not sure if it's local or regional to the islands. It resembles Bombay in shape but smaller, can be pitted and spooned out. Not a hint of fiber , very firm yellow orange flesh, and taste.. a hint of skittles with a twist of sprite and red wine undertones, oh and a hint of risky one night stand experience ....ok seriously now I'd describe it as a very very flavorful Glenn in a dry year. Anyone familiar with it? I may try to see what I can do with scions when I'm travelling back.

Re: the tree, hard to tell it's growth pattern as the two trees I saw were clearly older trees (going by trunk size) that were seriously cut back and therefore very compact and bushy. Fruit seem to grow in clumps and highly productive with obvious signs of multiple blooms given fruit in various stages. From fruitlets to ripe fruit


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Lemon Zest - disappointed
« on: June 17, 2015, 02:22:12 PM »
So let me preface with the typical stuff..taste is subjective, there are so many variables that affect it from soil,  climate, weather, plant health, tree age etc etc..which can vary from year to year and even yard to yard I got all that. .

Anyway I finally got around to tasting the supposed GOAT mango...I got a handful from two different private trees last week and decided to hold my reviews until I had a bigger sample size. .. I went up to excalibur today and got a bunch... all three sets of fruit contained several that to my unfamiliar LZ eye appeared to be at peak ripeness.

They surely had a unique flavor, and to me (just my opinion) actually reminded me a little of mallika...but overall I have to say I was really disappointed (I also tried a couple of not very ripe ones to see if I would like them better)..honestly I didn't even want to finish eating them.

I don't get the hype, and forget GOAT, LZ ranks waaay down my list from these early experiences.. again given all the variables etc Re mango tasting and also it's subjectivity ...I'll surely try some more over time.

But LZ? All I can say is...meh

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Flies everywhere (Pickering)
« on: April 22, 2015, 04:29:05 PM »
Pretty weird thing...this afternoon as if out of nowhere my fruiting pickering mango has zillions of houseflies (and a few other flying bugs) all over its leaves, as if they are feeding on something. Also near the base of this tree a couple yards away is a Meyer lemon that's also covered in flies, even the mulch and landscape river pebbles near the base of the trees are also coveted in flies and other bugs... the problem seems isolated to this immediate area and nowhere else in the yard. I also notice the stones and pebbles in the affected area are dirtier/sootier than the surrounding landscaping, and the Meyer lemon previously had some soot or dirt build up that was sticky ish  and attracted the odd fly)...

Not sure what to do here and a but worried about the dozen or so almost mature mangos on the tree,.but so far they don't seem interested in the fruit,.mainly the leaves and ground.

any ideas?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Accidental Mango Hybridization (?)
« on: March 13, 2015, 04:34:26 PM »
So I live in a townhouse that is detached on one side (luckily), I have quite a few things planted in ground on the open side, but as space is limited and my addiction for this hobby strong, I have a bunch of potted stuff on the back patio. Living a townhome there's no perfect spot for full sun but I've be surprised at how productive my fruit trees have been over the last 5 years in this house.

Anyway, so on the back patio I currently have potted:
- A Glen with limited fruit set from first bloom, and blooming heavily now.
- A Julie with moderate blooming now
- A Graham with lots of fruit set from the first bloom and some limited additional bloom now.

(plus an ever productive and ever flowering dwarf june plum, a bushy but dormant Mallika, longan and some random citrus seedlings).

So my question is, with these mango varieties flowering in such close proximity, and actually with panicles of each variety directly touching and rubbing each other in some instances, what's the chance of fruit hybridizing from the different varieties?  (I also have a superstar in ground Pickering with heavy fruit set from first bloom and a heavy second bloom now, and an in ground Imam Passand that is blooming now, both around the corner on the open side 20 ft. away)..

I noticed that the same bees, wasps and other pollinators may stop at each tree in one back patio trip, and again I have panicles from different varieties directly touching each other - not sure if that's a good idea or not, but these pots are pretty heavy to move around so they stay.

I plan on planting some seeds after harvest...and just wondering about if this super close proximity increases the chance of seeds leading to hybrids (regarldess of if they end up desireable or not)..or do I have this hybridization thing completely wrong?

Here's a pic of the patio so you can get an idea of just how close in proximity these guys are:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Wasps & Lychee..good/bad?
« on: February 16, 2015, 11:26:23 AM »
Noticed some wasps made a nest on some leaf undersides of my sweetheart tree. I've seen them do that before over the years but this is the first time this tree is flowering. My first thought is to leave them there as they've been working the flowers, and also because they are not aggressive at all, and it seems quite convenient for the tree to have its very own hive while it flowers. But question, some wasps are predatory/parasitic correct? Do these guys have any negative impact on other beneficial pollinators? I haven't really seen any other insects hanging around the flowers besides these wasps... thoughts?

pics below of the nest and a wasp working the flowers:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Christmas Tree Mulch?
« on: December 30, 2014, 03:11:37 PM »
Tried searching the forum before I started a new thread on this but couldn't find much....

About to get rid of this years Christmas tree, and like to reuse stuff when simple questions... is this good for mulching tropicals like mango/lychee?

Any dos or dont's in using this for mulching?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / South Florida Caribbean Mango Project?
« on: October 23, 2014, 11:26:28 AM »
With a Jamaican and Trinidadian background, my love for mangoes started early.

I found this thread ( and was going to bump it, but decided to start a new topic.

One thing a Caribbean person (and I suspect other cultures from all over the tropics) loves about South Florida is the ability to grow fruits and vegetables they grew up with back home. I've been living in S. Fl for about 18 years, and have come to appreciate and grow many of the local FL varieties, and Asian/Indian varieties available here (but uncommon in the Caribbean). But it would be nice to have more of our Caribbean varieties to grow here.

Luckily Julie (Jamaica/Trinidad), Graham (Trinidad), Ice Cream (Trinidad), Bombay and East Indian (Jamaica), Madam Francis & Blanc (Haiti) are readily available at S. FL nurseries. But as we Caribbean folks know there are tons of other local varieties that it would be nice to grow here in S. FL.

So what I want to know is, are any of the less popular/known (in FL) Caribbean varieties thriving here, propogated and available, or do some have trees that they would be willing to share scions? I think it would be good for interested growers of Caribbean origin, and who knows, other growers may become interested to in these varieties.

I visit Jamaica regularly (far more than I do Trinidad), and I don't know why I didn't do this before, but I plan to "import" some scions when i come back next time (probably during Decemeber, although that may not be a good time to graft them), or have some sent up with regularly visiting family and friends.  My first goal is to graft two of my favorite Jamican varieties outside of the "big 3" (Julie,Bombay, East Indian) - Number 11, and Blackie (about the size of an egg). I'd also love to get my hands on the local Trinidad varieites Calabash and DouxDoux (sp?). Any others done, do, or plan to do this with scions and/or seeds?

I know there are a few posters here from Jamaican, Trinidad and other island backgrounds, I'd like to hear your thoughts on increasing the availability of these varieties in S. FL.

For the forum as a whole, here are some of the common local often colorfully-named Caribbean varieties, other than those already well known in FL (Julie, Bombay, Ice Cream, Graham & East Indian).

Jamaica: Number 11, Number 7, Long, Sweetie, Blackie, Robin, Stringy, Hairy, Bastard, Beef, Sweetie Come Brush Me, Bellfyull, Kidney.

Trinidad: Calabash, DouxDoux, Cutlass, Long, Rose, Starch, Spice, Ten Pound, Robin.

These lists are definitely not complete, and I know there are many new varieties available. Also sorry that I don't know much about Haitian, the other French islands' (Martinique etc.), Spanish speaking islands', or Guyanese local mangoes.. Also most of the mangoes from the other English Speaking Islands are similar to those available in Trinidad and Jamaica, although  there are  probably some local varieties I'm not familiar with..would love for anyone to fill in the blanks.

Little quick history for those who may not know, Mango cultivation is the Caribbean was around for centuries, and especially grew in Trinidad and Jamaica and some other islands where large populations of indentured workers from India settled in the 1800s.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Graham Mango Tree Help Please!
« on: October 03, 2014, 05:10:37 PM »
Hello all,

I've been a long time reader of this wonderful site, and without knowing, you all have helped me so much more than you know with taking care of my fruit trees. Thank you!

Well I have an issue with my beloved 3 or 4 year old potted Graham Mango tree that has made me register and submit this, my first post. I hope you can help me solve this problem. 

This afternoon I noticed that some of the canopy leaves of the tree had some red rust-like blotches on them, the blotches appeared to be on the up-surface on the leaf more than the underside. The tree gets a lot of TLC (probably way too much) and daily inspections,  so it's almost as though they popped up since yesterday or I would have noticed them before.    Otherwise the tree seems pretty healthy and is in the midst of a pretty impressive growth flush (3rd one for the summer), and the new growth seems unaffected by this condition so far.

Now here's a little background on my practices for this tree.... I've become a religious neem-oiler, ever since having been working out of town for 6 months and returning to this potted Graham and my potted Glenn almost fully covered in black mold and scale. After a couple weeks of leaf by leaf and stem by stem cleaning with insecticide soap and neem oil, I got that problem under control, and since then am addicted to weekly neem spraying.

The thing is now, I've just become so habitual with it, and I have to admit unfortunately, I just kind of wing it with how often I spray and how I mix the mixture from concentrate (don't judge me :)).  We've had some very very hot and bright days here in South Florida this week (and I neemed yesterday morning and didn't get rain in my location), so I'm wondering if this is neem oil burn, especially as the spots seem limited to the upper side of a few of the leaves in the canopy?

Or maybe that's what I am hoping it is and not a fungus infection/rust etc?  To me it appears to be physical damage to the leaves, and they are not covered in anything powdery that comes off if I rub my fingers on them. It seems intuitive to me that it probably isn't fungus because of regular spraying with neem? And also the sudden (seemingly one day) onset of the spots? Or am I just wishfully hoping again?

Sorry for the long-winded story but here are some pics of the situation.  Could any of you give your thoughts on what it may be, what permanent damage may result, and how this can be treated?

It would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much.

1. 6ft potted Graham Mango tree (against wall):

2. Upper surface of an affected leaf:

3. Lower surface of an affected leaf:

4. Distribution of "rust" spots in canopy (look closely):

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