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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Peanut butter fruit set?
« on: September 27, 2022, 02:50:06 PM »
I have a wavy-leaf one also (never seen another type) and it tastes okay.  I definitely see the peanut-butter taste & texture but it also tastes a bit bean-y.  I eat them but it seems more like a novelty than something you look forward to.  I am going to try to keep mine in a container forever.  It was a slow grower for the first yea or two but seems to be very bushy and full now

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: September 27, 2022, 05:48:12 AM »
Ah I was thinking you already had fruit.  Mine is in a container, trunk diameter is about 1.5" and it just flowered for the first time this week.  It has been trouble-free. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: September 26, 2022, 10:01:32 PM »
Hey all.

Coastal southern California native here very close to Mexico border.  I started out with dragonfruit and ice cream bean, now I have a ton more variety of plants including red atemoya, other Annonas, guava and guava relatives, a few different Eugenias, jaboticaba, thimbleberry etc.  I think because I mostly work from home these days I just have more time to get into this hobby.  So far everyone has mostly been friendly and welcoming and its great to hear from other people that are knowledgeable on the topic.

I hope one day all my trees and plants bear fruit so I can share with family and friends.  Wishing you all good fortune in your gardens.  Peace!

Welcome!   How is the ice cream bean?  And do you know what type you have?  I started one from seed that is finally flowering now, but I've never tried the fruit.  Mine is inga edulis

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: first canistel ripened
« on: September 26, 2022, 08:55:09 PM »
Mine definitely has the pointy-heart shape and looks exactly like the ones I had in Hawaii, and the pictures of Bruce I see.  I picked Bruce because it looked the most like whatever canistel I tried the first time and really liked.  I got mine from TopTropicals also.  I have been thinking about getting a grafted Ross... so if you become convinced you received Ross instead of Bruce I'll be happy to trade budwood with you.

I am not sure exactly how long it took from flower to ripe fruit, it feels like six months or more.  I have it planted directly into the dirt in the greenhouse, mostly-clay soil with no amendments.  Mine is in full sun, though the glazing probably absorbs 30% or so but it is still enough for part-shade plants to become sunburned.  It has been trouble free aside from a bit of scale on the new growth.  I have been feeding it 25-5-15 citrus fertilizer simply because I have a big bag of it, I'm not sure what the proper ratio is for pouterias.

I'm really happy to see it thriving.  I was worried about not enough light, short winter nights, etc. but it hasn't been an issue.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / first canistel ripened
« on: September 26, 2022, 02:53:23 PM »
My grafted Bruce canistel set a single fruit that I've been watching for months.  It finally dropped on its own today and I found it on the greenhouse floor.  It is really tasty, outermost flesh is a bit dry but gets significantly moist towards the inside and much better than the ones I found lying on the ground at Fruit & Spice park (which were more dry and latex-ey). 

I'm very pleased!  There are many more new fruitlets that have formed in the past month so I expect a significant crop next year.

here it is on the tree a month or two ago when it started becoming yellow.  This tree is about 4ft tall and wide

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Quava pruning
« on: September 24, 2022, 05:57:00 PM »
I prune mine aggressively and it handles it fine.  The actual pruning steps are similar to any other tree, remove dead, diseased, weak, crossing, inward facing, too low branches.  Cut excessively long unbranched growth back.  Open up the center, reduce self shading.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: How to keep citrus alive in winter? Zone 8b/7
« on: September 22, 2022, 09:34:18 PM »
Meyer lemons seem finicky, always dropping leaves.  I have a greenhouse and they are still far less healthy than all my other citrus.

You should be able to keep them outdoors until temperatures drop into the 30s, then bring them inside for the winter.  I haven't really tried this, but poeple do. 

I expect quite a few people are looking for this... I've never seen the plants for sale, only seeds (rarely).  I know fruitlovers/Oscar has them seasonally but I haven't been able to get any to germinate.  And I'm told it is male/female so you need multiple seedlings to expect fruit

Citrus General Discussion / Re: when to pick Chandler pummelo?
« on: September 22, 2022, 09:20:42 PM »
I just got email notification that MadisonCitrus has Chandler in stock, so I ordered one.  I will see if the fruit is the same as the "Chandler" I received from FourWinds.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote Questions
« on: September 22, 2022, 09:07:16 PM »
I have a grafted SueBelle in a ~15gal pot, it is starting to grow more vigorously so I'm not sure how well I am able to keep it under control, but it flowers well (no fruit set yet, I expect this next spring).  I keep it in my greenhouse in winter, but I see no reason why you couldn't overwinter indoors in a sunny window and keep it outside when temperatures are above freezing.  It has been trouble free, I recommend you give it a shot

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Misc Pouterias, bearing time from seed?
« on: September 20, 2022, 01:40:52 PM »
Thanks, that is encouraging to hear.  I can deal with more time if they don't take up a huge amount of space.  I am now at a phase where I am using many of my in-ground greenhouse spots for big seedling trees that I've never tried before, knowing that most of them will be chopped down after I get to try the fruit.  If I can keep them in 20-25gal pots they can probably stay forever

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Misc Pouterias, bearing time from seed?
« on: September 19, 2022, 10:38:11 PM »
I have seedlings of Ross Sapote, Lucuma, Olosapo that are all happy and healthy, but as space becomes tight I am wondering how long I might have to wait for fruit, and how big these will be by that time? 

I've seen grafted Ross Sapote for sale occasionally, but not the others. I've never tried the fruit of any of them, only canistel, and starting to doubt it's worth the wait just to try them.  It might make more sense to fly somewhere that has them in season!

It's shame as they are such nice looking trees.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Pluerry
« on: September 18, 2022, 11:13:01 PM »
This post caught my eye because I immediately thouht "wtf is a pluerry??" and googled it... now I want one.  They any good?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Jaboticaba liners
« on: September 16, 2022, 07:58:29 PM »
These are Sabara?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Root girdling
« on: September 15, 2022, 09:53:01 AM »
At that size, I think the large roots are primarily providing stability and feeder roots will balance themselves out through whatever remaining unblocked paths exist.  Personally I would leave it alone, though I am curious what others think here.


I think this was from seed. Its been more than a month now and still no new leaves, but the main bark is still green when I scratch it. Should I remove all the smaller branches which look dead?

I was also thinking of removing the plant and dipping the root in water for 2-3 hours and then try repotting it again.

Removing dead branches won't matter either way.  Not sure what your goal is with the root dip/repot.   I would just leave it and see if it puts out new growth, as long as it has green under the bark it is still alive.  Doesn't mean it won't eventually die anyway, but no reason to give up on it yet.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Black Sapote Seedlings
« on: September 13, 2022, 08:09:59 PM »
Are you sure?  I have a single black sapote seedling tree and it fruits.  Pretty sure there are no others around

Citrus General Discussion / Re: T-Bud grafting of citrus
« on: September 12, 2022, 01:24:22 PM »
Nicely done!

I have almost completely given up on T-bud grafting.  I know it is supposed to be reliable but I must be terrible at it as mine always fail. I have better success with cleft grafts, and because I have no shortage of scion material it works out well enough.  I imagine if you were buying single sticks from the clonal program then every bud counts

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Extending fruit season in lime trees?
« on: September 12, 2022, 12:31:24 AM »
Limequats are an acceptable lime substitute and are closer to everbearing, or at least on different schedules.  They have seeds, though

Mine just started flowering this summer, it is about 7ft tall with 1in diameter trunk.  I don't know exactly how old it is as it was 3-4ft tall when I got it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please Help with my Ice Cream Bean Plant!!!
« on: September 08, 2022, 11:45:30 AM »
I grew a bunch of ice cream bean (inga edulis) seedlings in containers (outdoors in summer, greenhoused in winter) a few years ago and they were really healthy and easy to grow, and because they are known to be nitrogen fixing I gave them little to no fertilizer.  Are you growing these entirely indoors?  Might be too dry, maybe not enough sun. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: red jabo first flowering
« on: September 07, 2022, 11:38:34 AM »
That is only a 1" trunk?  From this perspective the tree looks much larger.  These really are nice looking trees, with the added bonus of the unusual fruiting style

I had a guava that completely defoliated after I sprayed it with too high a concentration of hort oil.  A month or so later it put out a bit of new growth from near the base of the tree.  Then it died a few weeks later, but I wouldn't give up immediately.  Occasionally scratch the surface of the bark and if you still see green let it be.  They seem to be prone to root suckering also which is good for you if it is a seedling or airlayer.  If it is grafted, the scion will probably die

That's a really nice looking tree, polux.  How tall is it?  My cacao is tall and skinny right now, about 6ft tall in a 5gal container.  I am thinking of cutting it back to a lower node

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grow pots for dwarf citrus
« on: September 06, 2022, 02:26:47 PM »

Where I'm at in Socal, they will last about a summer in full sun before becoming brittle. Bought those years ago and they cracked when I tried to move the plant months later. Maybe the plastic is better now?

You had black ones, right?  If so I expect my experience will be the same as yours.  Oh well, polypropylene may just be awful in sun even with stabilizing carbon.  The graph above is for HDPE, but I was hoping black PP would still last a few years.

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