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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sudden lychee death ?
« on: September 02, 2022, 04:45:38 PM »
I have since cut the dead tree out.  When doing so I noticed some nearby croton and palms have the same root rot crap.  Oh well.  'Tis is nature. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Supremo Grape Breeding
« on: August 24, 2022, 04:45:21 PM »
"I also tried Tari's Burgundy"

I've been growing this one for about ten years or more (I forget the timeline).  I get about ten pounds of fruit a year off the vines.  This summer I got so many I couldn't eat them all and they turned into raisons hanging on the vine.  They tasted great. They have seeds but I chew them up as well. 

This past winter was the first time I didn't cut back the old growth from the previous growing season as I usually do the recommended cutting back to the main stalk. I got a record number of fruit all the way to the end of the vines.  Probably about 20 or 30 feet away from the main stalk.  What is your advice on hedging back the vine when dormant?   

I fertilized with just wood ash from the fire pit and some chelated iron.

For fungi disease it usually doesn't attack the vine until after the fruit are gone and the late season rainy season kicks in.  Thus, it doesn't matter. 

That is some kind of breeding you are doing, good luck to you!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sudden lychee death ?
« on: August 24, 2022, 02:42:35 PM »
Freeze girdle? I doubt that is possible.  I haven't seen freezing weather since 2010. 

it is 20 years old believe or not!   It has grown in shade with a few hours of full sun in the middle of the day and thru the years has been overtaken by other trees.  It has been producing fruit for that long.  Of course not every year as emperor seems to be a shy bearer, especially when grown in the shade.  I also have never fertilized it to speed up it's growth. 

But, it's dead now.  I think it was mushroom root rot. I see the same mushrooms around the yard.  Oh well. 

There is a brewster ten feet away in similar conditions.  Keeping an eye on that one next! 

thanks for the suggestions, you guys made be go deep google mode to figure it out.   Not a scientific way, but it appears the tree just didn't like the environment anymore. Coupled with super warm and drought-y temps then a sudden onslaught of 7 inches of rain in one decided to kick the bucket.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sudden lychee death ?
« on: August 23, 2022, 10:52:15 PM »
That could be true. don't know how the trunk would have gotten hurt and I would have noticed it as I inspect all my plants frequently. 

Found this on a google search: 

Mushroom Root RotĖ This disease is usually only a problem in locations where lychee trees are grown amongst live oak trees. This disease almost always goes unnoticed until it has killed the tree by rotting its roots away. Symptoms of mushroom root rot mostly take place under the soil, until the overall wilting and sudden death of the tree occurs.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sudden lychee death ?
« on: August 23, 2022, 08:07:22 PM »
I noticed the leaf turned brown about two weeks ago but never looked at the trunk. Not until yesterday I noticed the entire canopy was brown and dead then looked closer at trunk.

Did look like it got girdled just above the root ball.  I don't use a weed eater nor cut grass near the tree.  Not sure why it would be injured.

Could it be ganoderma? I've had a couple older palms die from it 100 feet away.  This tree was healthy all the way up to month ago. I was keeping eye on ripening fruit all the way up to July.

All the trees surrounding it looks perfectly healthy.  I'm going to pull the dead tree up tomorrow and inspect the roots.   Tree is 20 years old and was healthy until recently.  I guess sometimes trees just get up and die on you. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sudden lychee death ?
« on: August 23, 2022, 06:45:28 PM »
You made me look at surrounding trees and I see no signs of a lightning strike.
It would have to be a pinpoint strike. Looking up. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sudden lychee death ?
« on: August 23, 2022, 06:29:30 PM »
Yes, very good chance it was.  Interesting.  I have found some large oak limbs fallen and I was out of town for the big storm we had two weekends ago. 

I've been growing Jaboticaba for about 20 years.  I have 3 very large sabara (ten feet over the roof line), fruiting reds (3), whites (no fruit yet), grimals (no fruit yet), and a restinga (no fruit yet), Yellow (no fruit yet).    Most of mine are grown under oak canopy and I like to report they do fruit in the shade.  I've also grafted reds onto sabara just for a hobby and surprised they took and are growing!

My recommendation is to buy the biggest tree you can afford as they do grow very slow and require constant good quality water. 

I baby mine and only water with captured rain water.  Never let a newly planted jabo dry out...use heavy mulch, and i don't fertilize mine other than chelated iron occasionally.

Taste wise my only experience is with reds and sabara.  Both are great. Reds do fruit quicker but don't produce as much.   They both have unique flavors. 

They are very ornamental trees, plant them just for that alone. The fruit is icing on the cake.

Of course Adam is the Prince of jabo but not sure where he has been.  Maybe now a dark prince of the jabo underworld.  :p.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sudden lychee death ?
« on: August 23, 2022, 05:40:24 PM »
I had a 20 year old lychee just dry up and die within a week.

It produced emperor fruits every other year. Seemed ok other than getting shaded out by other trees.
Other lychee nearby look ok. Never watered, never fertilized. We were in a hot and dry spell this summer then two weekends ago got 7 inches of rain. Iím not too disappointed as got a lot of fruit trees. Any ideas? 

The only way I can eat pitangatuba is after miracle fruit. :p

Thnx for the suggestions. Iím too lazy to do that! 
Iím just going to put them in a Tupperware container and freeze some. I do plant the seeds and they do volunteer freely in my yard. I always thought they would be difficult to grow but easy in my backyard.

Thanks, I'll freeze a bunch as recommended. 

I was thinking maybe to make miracle fruit jelly. But, probably wouldn't turn out.   

I've been digging on the tebow/young mango the past few years.  I really like that one.

Looks like you have a bunch of early mango. Maybe look for a late season one to extend the season. 

I just noticed one of my bush has about 300 near-ripe Miracle fruit. 

A bumper crop.  I eat them one-by-one when I can but what to do with the hundreds of others?

Just looking for tricks-of-the-trade when you have too many fruit.  I've been growing miracle fruit for about 20 years but never know what to do with excess fruit.  They volunteer around the house in a couple years later I discover 100's of fruit on a new bush.  Pretty bush with the red berries.

But, what to do with all the fruit?   

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee Flavored Mango?
« on: January 23, 2022, 12:13:27 PM »
Last time i had a jarkata mango I thought it had a lychee flavor to it. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Peanut Butter Fruit
« on: October 01, 2021, 03:09:44 PM »
Thanks for the feedback.  It's in a protected spot on South Merritt Island.  I'll definitely try to protect under 30F. 

I was wondering if it would eventually produce enough fruit that I could fill up a whole jar with and have natural peanut butter.  I'll update this thread in a few years if it does good or not. 

It is obviously a novelty fruit.  I got great interest when I posted these same photos on facebook. 

Viva la Peanut Butter Fruit! 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Peanut Butter Fruit
« on: September 24, 2021, 12:39:29 PM »
I've had this in the ground for two years and just ate the first two fruits. I like it.  It does have a hint of peanut butter flavor. 

I read it's a tropical.  I hope I can successfully grow this further North up here in the frozen tundra (joking of course) of East Central Florida.

Peanut Butter Fruit w/avocado Toast.  Limited time only!   

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Incredible jaboticaba collection
« on: July 30, 2021, 09:54:36 AM »
That is a ton of different variety.  Kudos to the Obsession!  Thanks for the vid.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longan Biew Kiew
« on: April 15, 2021, 11:27:36 AM »
Thanks for your observations. I have the Biew Kiew for about 15 years. Is a shy bearer for me and I get those low temps.  Kohala, diamond river fruit yearly for me. Maybe itís just that variety?  A typical shy bearer. At least in my observations. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jaboticaba
« on: August 25, 2020, 04:03:21 PM »
In the ground for 7 years, partial shade. Gets some full sun. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jaboticaba
« on: August 25, 2020, 03:33:45 PM »
2020 update. Biggest one about the six foot level.
No flowering yet. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba question . . .
« on: June 11, 2020, 10:06:47 AM »
My friend who lives up the mountains of dominical has a couple jaboticaba.  I'm sure the fruiting season is different than here in C.Fla. Mine flower and fruit 3 or 5 times a year. Dec to about May.  Then quit for the summer/fall.   My friend in Costa Rica says he always has fruit. Maybe he is an ideal location.   You will need to figure out a way to protect the fruit from birds/critters though.  Jaboticaba are great to grow.   After a few years you will have too much fruit. So, figure out how to can it and preserves/ jelly/wine/etc.   

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitangatuba vs Pitomb
« on: June 11, 2020, 09:53:37 AM »
My pitomba fruited very well.  They are really tasty.

Now these fruit can be described as apricot tasting much more than pitangatuba! 

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