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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse Questions for South Florida
« on: April 12, 2024, 11:15:03 AM »
That's a big ask. In a hurricane you'd better remove all the panels. If you remove the side panels, leaving the top panels in a hurricane it will need to be built like a tank. That top will be like a plane wing ready for takeoff.

The poly covered option will be way cheaper and way easier to remove the covering in summer.

I love the Solarig and Palring materials. They last 10 years plus in our intense sun and in place all year long.

 https://www.robertmarvel.com/greenhouse-covers

In place over winter in FL they'd last a long time if well cared for. That is protect from sun damage on or off. Only one side is UV protected on poly or panels. They all need proper care.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pruning mature orange tree in pot
« on: April 02, 2024, 04:47:23 PM »
From what I've seen citrus are very tolerant of hard pruning. Meaning when cut back or frozen back they reliably send out new growth from large wood. If pruned very hard most northerners will think you killed the tree. The tree won't mind and it will be a chance to clean up scale and the like. I'd go after pest issues as hard as you can while it's easy.

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A seedling is what it is. No guarantee. And it's not likely to improve. The best hope is to graft it to a variety the owner likes.

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The spiders may be spider mites. It's hard to tell from the picture. If they are two spotted spider mites a good hand lens can allow you to see the two spots for an ID. They can be controlled with horticultural oil. But don't apply within 3 weeks of a sulfur application. Usually they aren't an issue outdoors. A high pressure water spray can help with control.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mini Mango Hedge
« on: March 02, 2024, 08:40:58 AM »
I'd go for it. I've seen videos of mango planted much closer in a commercial setting. Get your pruning right and there's no reason that shouldn't work.

I've been growing high density for many years and have never been disappointed with the results.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: CO2 Generator
« on: February 19, 2024, 05:48:50 PM »
A natural gas CO2 generator will put out a tiny bit of heat. But that's not it's purpose. It generates CO2 to increase plant growth. The greenhouse needs to be closed up so as to contain the added CO2 inside the GH. In summer when sunny, a GH will need ventilation. Thus, any added CO2 would quickly be lost to the outside.

It's really only useful when the GH is closed in winter. Under those conditions I've increased CO2 to 800-1000 ppm just using a compost pile. I could not tell any difference in growth but that would be difficult to notice.

I've also found that CO2 builds up at night in a tightly closed GH. That's off gassing from soil, pot media, and plant respiration. And CO2 doesn't fall as quickly as I expected during the following day. I had difficulty dropping it much below 400 ppm, and outside level.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Why cant i get mango seeds to germinate!?
« on: February 10, 2024, 09:12:46 AM »
It might be that the seeds you are using have been damaged during the import process. I believe many are treated for pests. Those methods can damage or kill the seeds.

They aren't hard to germinate if you have good seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse flooded: repot plants?
« on: February 08, 2024, 09:27:06 AM »
You can drain the perched water out of a pot by setting it on a towel or other material that absorbs water. That would help dry out the mix with no root disturbance.

It might also help to warm up the pots. Take them inside. Cold and wet is worse than warm and wet for some species.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 60 Lbs of KNO3
« on: February 07, 2024, 08:19:01 PM »
Don't apply any fertilizer in a hole. The roots can't effectively take up fertilizer that is so highly concentrated. It will burn the roots and eventually leach into the soil.

Spread a little at a time on the surface and water in or let rain carry it into the soil.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Banana woes (nutrient defficiency?)
« on: January 23, 2024, 09:05:11 PM »
I can spot a nitrogen deficiency in many plants by the color of the leaves. Leaves in N deficient plants are lighter green in color than with adequate N. Older leaves can senesce early as nitrogen is cycled into the newer growth.

Cool soils can cause similar symptoms on plants like banana that like warm soil.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: ID on disease/problem
« on: January 10, 2024, 01:15:44 PM »
In the second picture on the branch going left, there are some brownish looking oblong spots. Could those be scale? If they rub off and are moist inside they're likely scale. If they rub off dry perhaps dead scale. Hort oil works pretty good for scale.

Other than that, I can't see anything else that looks wrong.

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That doesn't sound like sprinkler damage to me. With all the rain and humidity you have two sprinkler events a week shouldn't be an issue. But that's just my intuition. Good luck..!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Evaluation of Shipped Mango Tree
« on: January 04, 2024, 07:55:11 PM »
That's an old injury that's already well along to being healed over. Nothing needs to be done to the tree. It will be fully healed in a year or two. At the top of the injury one can see bark growing in to fill in the gap. It's about a year into healing and looks good.

It kind of looks like a branch that was ripped off and hanging by a bit of bark. The remains were cut off leaving the horizontal cut at the bottom of the injury. It could have been a graft or some other injury.

The tree looks great. Much better than the dozen or so that have been shipped to me at roughly $80 each.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafted mango tree or a seedling?
« on: December 29, 2023, 10:46:39 AM »
One can't be sure. But that kink in the left shoot above the fork could be a graft union. Bud grafts often look like that.

Asking the seller might solve the issue.

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The rootstock the mango was grown on will have no effect on the characteristics on the seed grown tree. Your tree will be a seeding tree. It's growth will follow it's genetics. The turpentine rootstock won't affect the way it grows.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What’s going on with my Mango Trees???
« on: December 10, 2023, 01:36:45 PM »
That looks like salt burn. Perhaps from the hurricane that you had not too long ago. Salt still in the soil from that storm. The usual cure would be to leach the salt out with fresh water.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grow bags?
« on: December 08, 2023, 02:22:00 PM »
I had all my avocados in grow bags. They were perpetually under watered. I switched to a well draining soil mix and plastic pot and they are doing much better. It seems like fabric pots means you need to water every day.

Everything in any pot needs to be watered every day once the tree reaches it's full size. The tree will grow until it runs out of water. Water once a week and the full size will be small if not dead. Water once a day and it can grow bigger. Move that to twice a day and it can grow bigger still.

I've had good luck growing all kinds of fruit trees in both plastic and fabric pots. In fabric they don't need root pruning nearly as often if at all.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need help saving my mango tree
« on: December 07, 2023, 10:23:46 AM »
It doesn't look too bad to me. My thought is maybe it's getting too much shade. And perhaps it's suffering from root competition from those nearby trees. More water and fertilizer might help. Removing some of the competition might help.

Then again those trees may be farther way than they appear.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: For the love of concrete!!
« on: November 08, 2023, 06:13:06 PM »
The concrete will only work well following sunny days. And right now, the ground is still warm from summer. The cloudy season is about to begin in CA. And by mid winter the ground heat will be drawn down. On cloudy days in spring the concrete isn't going to be supplying heat and could even be a negative. Who wants to heat up concrete? not me.

I'd have that shade cloth off there soon. That reduces heat gain by day. But then the structure apparently lacks another cooling option. So over heating could be an issue on sunny days especially next spring.

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That's very nice looking. Those should grow great with no competition from weeds.

What are the temperatures and rainfall in your area? And what are the main pests and diseases?

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Blacklisted, hard telling. But they likely keep lists of all violators no matter how minor. It's so easy to keep lists on a computer we're likely all on a few.

Don't lose sleep over it.

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Sulfur probably won't stain your tile. What I'd use is a wettable powder. Sulfur dust is also effective against certain pests. They should wash right off.

Sulfur is very effective against fig bud mites but I'm not sure how it will do against spider mites. It's also widely used against powdery mildew. Probably not so good for scale or mealybugs. Oil would be better against those. I may end up alternating sulfur and oil. But don't apply together or they'll burn the leaves. I'd allow 4 weeks between sulfur and oil.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango pruning
« on: October 22, 2023, 12:19:28 PM »
First thing I'd do is cut off the stubs low on the trunk.

If it's staying in the pot don't prune anything. If going into the ground, then chose fruit or a major cut back if you need it lower.

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I had full control of everything in my greenhouse this summer with about 8 sprays of the same thing that Millet uses, ultra pure hort oil.

Next year I'm going to try wettable sulfur because I want to have control of powdery mildew if it shows up on grapes or mango.

My main pests are: spider mites, fig bud mite, and scale. I didn't see a single spider mite even though they've been an issue every year for 20 yrs. Scale shows up once in a while, none this year. Fig bud mites were my biggest issue this year. I saw mealy bugs once but cut out infected foliage and sprayed the hort oil. None since. One little patch of aphids.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your favourite tropical fruit?
« on: October 22, 2023, 11:59:03 AM »
And old thread asked similar question. Answers were:

Mango 58 members listed as first
Durian 22
Cherimoya 14
Lychee 11
Mangosteen 10
Orange 6
Sugar apple 4
Jackfruit 3
Passion fruit 3
Avacado 3

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