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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedless Lychee Order
« on: September 19, 2022, 09:38:44 AM »
I'm sure everyone would want some but Isn't there a restriction on importing lychee trees as of now? Usda is not going to be happy.

I thought it was only florida? Because of some lychee tick. Not really sure if this website is real ? lol
edit: confirmed real

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Hi Tru,
 What variety of lychee seeds did you planted?
I'm trying to speed up my lychee and Longan seedlings by grafting them to my mature  trees. I grafted a few Sakip and Chuleon longan seedlings and some of the grafts had a partial bloom on its 2nd year. Sadly, fruit didn't make. Hopefully next year it'll have fruits. This year, i grafted some Mauritius seedlings(might be cross pollinated with longan pollen). One of the grafts is growing very nicely.  Fingers  crossed   for blooms and fruit4me next year.
All the lychees and Longans seedlings grow super slow for me. It takes like 3 years for it to be Big enough to take scions to graft. So in total for the longan seedlings, about 5 to 6 years to flower.

I have a planted  Heung Lai lychee seed that i fruited from my longan tree back in 2017. It's  now only still aliittle over a foot tall. I plan  to graft that too, but it's still so skinny.

I believe mine are mauritius too! I actually don't know the variety because I go to an asian grocery store pretty often and have only seen lychees there once, but comparing brewster and mauritius side by side I believe they are mauritius; namely for the slight yellowing inbetween the main color.

The last time I went to the store they had purple mangosteen!!!! It was my first time trying, and I cannot understate that they're absolutely amazing... but my experience overall was disappointing because out of 25-30 someodd mangosteens, about half were filled with yellow slime. The other half were still edible, but I only got probably 7-8 with undamaged flesh. I still had to buy a bag though, + got 5 seeds out of it!

Best of luck for this upcoming winter, lychees are weird plants. One day science will crack the chill hours : )

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Shade Tree - Worth it?
« on: September 17, 2022, 11:00:22 PM »
yeah you'd probably need some type of trellis

I'm growing passion fruit at my house.  I have 3 vines that covered my entire fence.  They are very vigorous and went into my neighbor's side of the fence too - didn't know that would happen - oops.. In order to get fruit you have to do hand pollination, so you would have to be able to reach the vine.  No need to pick the fruits, they drop from the vine when they are ready.  It's a bad idea to plant a large tree too close to your house.  Think about when we have a hurricane and the heavy branches fall on your roof, and the roots can damage your foundation/plumbing/etc.  I honestly wouldn't plant passionfruit on your house either, not sure if it would have the same effect of shade as a tree.

https://www.housebeautiful.com/uk/garden/plants/a33878105/ivy-plant-reduce-humidity-cool-buildings/
This article says ivy can keep houses less humid in the winter and lower temperatures by up to 13F! Not sure how much that says about passionfruit vines though, but the concept definitely works

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Shade Tree - Worth it?
« on: September 17, 2022, 05:39:13 PM »
Off the top of my head I think of my old house that had english ivy growing up the southern wall, given that it's only a one story house what do you think of a vining plant like passionfruit? Good for your area, One vine gets up to 50 feet, fruits aren't too heavy and can be picked with those fruit picking poles pretty easily, + beautiful flowers

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee Help: Terminal New Growth Falling Off
« on: September 17, 2022, 05:29:46 PM »
Did it rain/really windy recently? I've had a few lychees outside before and noticed that it really does not take much at all for the leaflets to get twisted/malformed/die when odd weather comes in. If the leaves are even a few more days old they'll survive, but super fresh growth just can't take it at all.

It also might've decided it had enough new leaves given the roots it has to work with and killed them off. Either way I wouldn't worry, I've had younger lychees than that drop every single leaf, look dead for a month and a half, and then flush out again; so I think you'll be fine in the end.

pH problems can also cause that, but I'm not sure we can diagnose that without more information like soil pH and how wide of a change happened whenever you gave it sulfur, + I don't suspect it to be pH anyway. Overall I think its being dramatic. just my two cents

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I just want to say too, I have the feeling that the vigor that is being displaying is not normal or rare to say the least, who knows if it'll fruit with the same speed but out of the ~25, 80% have 4-6 starting their flush, 20% have 7-9 finishing their flush... and then there's this one.

I count 8 baby leaves preparing for this next flush, who knows if it'll grow all 8 out or just pick 3-4, but whenever I water them all this one in particular is dry 36 hours before the others, every single time lol

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / .
« on: September 16, 2022, 09:55:05 PM »
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The first year is nothing to go by, they do not maintain the speed. They grow fast the first year and very slowly after that. I was impressed too last year when mine sprouted, this is year two and they are creeping along. I have them in ground and in various pots all growing at the same speed. I'm in it for the long haul but it is one of those trees you start from seed but then focus on something else. I just let them do their thing.

My theory is they are using the energy from the attached seed the first year to turbo grow. After about a year it is spent. You can feed them and try to push them but you can't mimic the nutrients they had with that seed.

Yeah I've been doing more research and realize how uninformed I sounded earlier  :-[ ;D

Theory sounds about right, they really do seem to respond well to the quarter strength nutes, I mean, 11 big green leaves???? my mangoes only have 6 right now! and I read in a research paper that mycorhizzae applied every 3 months can increase growth speed on lychee by 30%, might be worth trying out yourself! Thanks for the info again, I appreciate it

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The information you looked up is most likely pertaining to air layered or grafted trees. I believe Lychee seedlings take significantly longer, perhaps around 15-20 years.

Under ideal conditions, Lychee seedling can grow fast, similar to what you have experienced.

Some plants can also stretch due to etiolation.

Simon

I'm in a grow tent that I've perfected over the years so I don't really think it's etiolation, setup:

82-85F day, 68-73F night, 60-70% RH, 18 hours, 20-30% shade, quarter strength veg nutrients, and mycorrhizae added during first 2 weeks of watering.

It's neck and neck with some mangoes that I started on the same exact day, never seen a lychee grow this fast

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Hi, I germinated 25 lychee seeds on July 4th and have been thinning them out over the course of these past 2 months, but this one tree is particular is impressing me far more than anything else.
At 74 days old: it has 11 leaves, experienced 4 flushes, is 10 inches tall, and is currently preparing for yet another flush.

Google says lychee trees commonly take 4-5 years to fruit, where 3 is rare but not unheard of. Google also says I should expect my lychee tree to be 8 inches after 1 year, not only 2 months.

Has anyone ever heard of a lychee tree flowering from seed after 2 years? I absolutely love lychee so if anyone has any tips on how to push my tree as hard as I can, I'm open to it. Thanks so much!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What should my next addition be?
« on: September 10, 2022, 09:40:30 PM »
Cool that you are growing mangos in TX, what varieties grow well there? You might want to look at sapodilla, jackfruit, the sapote family, black, white, green, ross, etc. I agree with Mike, avo's for sure, who knows you may learn to like them.

Any mango that can withstand a bit of cold will grow just fine where I'm at; I think the most well known is kent, keitt, irwin. As long as you prepare for the winter freezes they thrive in the summer sun, and if you have a greenhouse it's no trouble at all. Only problem nowadays is the drought, but we just got some water finally

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What should my next addition be?
« on: September 10, 2022, 05:31:20 PM »
Welcome to the forum!

I think half of the addiction is wanting something new.
How many times do I tell myself one more tree will do it
Just one more tree

you do have a great collection already!
You don't like avocados?
That is something that is not exotic but I really enjoy
eating. Longans are nice in Florida. They fruit after the lychees
and are more consistent producers. And lastly one of my favorite
fruits is a sugarlata which is a cross between sugar apple and custard apple

My dad actually grew avocados commercially when I was a kid, I never acquired the taste for them I suppose. I've been tempted to start a longan, if I'm not mistaken I see them + lychee and rambutan all the time at my local asian grocery store. I'm not sure which I enjoy more, surprising myself with the new fruit or surprising others that would never in a million years gotten a chance to try them. I spent an embarrassing amount of time growing elephant ears, not knowing how amazing the tubers underneath were.

Sometimes it's easy to forget that there is more waiting out there, be it rarity, time, or not commercially 'viable' enough to ever see in a store. Or maybe I played too many pokemon games as a kid

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What should my next addition be?
« on: September 10, 2022, 02:58:06 PM »
well I actually am, I just included the more tropical varieties that seem to pique these forum's interest a bit more. + I don't really know much about different varieties of mango, I just recognize some of the well known ones.

If you want the total list (... drumroll please)
- Lychee
- Mango
- Honeydew
- Watermelon
- Cantaloupe
- Dragonfruit
- Strawberry Guava
- Andean Guava
- Cream Guava
- Strawberries
- Blueberries
- Honeyberries
- Passionfruit
- Pomegranate
- Mysore Raspberry
- + all the listed above

As you can see, things have gotten quite out of hand  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / What should my next addition be?
« on: September 10, 2022, 12:59:12 PM »
Hi, long time lurker and first time poster.

First off, thanks everyone for pulling me back into this weird exotic fruit hobby that has taken over all my other hobbies lol. It wouldn't have been possible without these discussions remaining alive and people continuing to share their knowledge.

Anyway, I have amassed quite the collection since my first visit to this website, and I'm wondering if any veterans know of some suggestions to further my collection (popular or lesser known, I really don't care but of course I'm partial to rare fruit, taste is king for me though)

I've had my eyes on the Abiu and Abiurana for a while, Abiu is easier to come by, I know there are some people in the forums that sell the seeds but before I pulled the trigger I just wanted to know other people's thoughts :)

My current collection:
- Red Sugar Apple
- Purple Sugar Apple
- Atemoya
- Rainforest Plum
- Jaboticaba
- Blue Grape
- Uvaia do Campo
- Bolivian Mangosteen
- Cuban Mangosteen
- Mexican Mangosteen
- Lemon Drop Mangosteen
- Jambu
- Granadilla
- Feijoa

Thanks everyone! I'm not the biggest berry fan personally; my favorite kind of fruit is mango if that helps with any suggestions.
Greatly appreciate everything! And if you have a rare fruit that you just want to talk about, I always love to learn. Doesn't have to a suggestion <3

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