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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 29, 2013, 03:16:44 PM »
Here is a springfels mango purchased from ensy's:











This was a beast of a mango and it served as desert after dinner for me, my wife, her grandpa, aunt and uncle. It was great to share this mango with them because they, besides my wife, have only had what is available in the stores to purchase as their experience with mango. This mango was 2lbs and 5.5oz and 6.75in long. The outside coloration is distinct to the other springfels i have seen with a streaking of color from to to bottom and was red fading into orange into yellow. My uncle was particularly interested in how to process a mango, so I first halved the mango lengthwise and then cubed it by the "hedge-hog" method and presented it on a plate. The flesh was yellow, soft and juicy. The texture had some long fibers with some small bristly ones not very noticeable when cubed. The taste to me was similar to a Valencia pride with slight tangy-ness and when I asked the table what they were tasting, my wife's aunt replied with "apricot" which seemed probable. There was a lot of meat on this mango and the seed is monoembryonic.

-JoeP450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 29, 2013, 02:49:29 PM »
Here is a florigon mango from truly tropical:






This florigon was 4in long and weighed 394g, it was a flat orange color with black freckling and a large anthracnose streak. This was another mango which had an oily feel to the outside skin. When I cut open the mango it revealed a deep orange color with hardly any excess juice.  The juice that was present adhered to the flesh and was a syrupy consistency. The flesh was smooth with a consistency somewhere between gelatinous and creamy completely absent of fiber. The sugar content seemed mild and the taste seemed like mild honeydew melon. Overall I thought the flesh was of desert quality but it was not really sweet and lacked any distinct flavor characteristics, maybe this was watered down? Worthy of a second try.

-JoeP450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 29, 2013, 02:12:55 PM »
Here is a Haden mango from truly tropical:








According to Chris Rollins this is the mango that started it all in Florida. A seedling said to be of mulgoba and turpentine with a monoembryonic seed. This mango was 5in long and weighed 610g, was a orange-yellow that faded into a bright red. An interesting note was that the outer skin felt oily and had a nice smell as if the mango itself was sweating resinous sugar. When I cut open the mango it revealed a bright orange flesh with some watery juice and a pleasant sweet smell. The flesh was soft and juicy. The texture had some fine fiber which I took a picture of zoomed in above and what I call "bristly" when i describe mouth feel, as well as some long stringy fiber. The tast was mildly sweet of mango flavor with a little resin twist.

-Joep450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 29, 2013, 01:48:57 PM »
Here is a Austin mango from ensy's:









This mango has an interesting shape, on the shoulder there is a long indentation and then on the top where the stem attaches it is lumpy like the bottom of an apple. This mango was 4.5 in long, weighed 592g was bright red/yellow and dotted with white spots. I cut open the mango and it revealed a bright orange flesh that was very juicy of a watery consistency. The texture had some slight bristly fiber to it but hardly of an inconvenience, the flesh was loose and watery. The taste was similar to the Tyler mango only not as strong of an orange soda taste plus the Austin had a musky finish. The seed is monoembryonic.

-joep450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 28, 2013, 12:19:53 PM »
hahah that incredibly rich flavor is precisely what I find irresistable about the LZ. If you think that was intense, you should try the pina colada hahahah. The first time I had a pina colada, I got a mild upset stomach due to the overwhelming sugar content. A few folks were calling the LZ 'bland' when compared to the O-2 (aka Peach Cobbler), so I can only imagine how intense the flavor is on that one. I think a lot of us mango lubbers enjoy that intense flavor.

Geez Jeff, at this point I can't image something stronger than LZ, looking forward to having my mind blown with the peach cobbler and and piņa colada, que pink Floyd's dark side of the moon. What's next prescription strength mangos....lol

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 28, 2013, 01:54:00 AM »
Here is a lemon zest mango off my mothers tree:








Earlier this year I posted some pics of this tree in bloom and despite other forum members cautionary advice I let the tree hold fruit anyways and it produced two excellent tasting mangos. Now I'm going to do my best to be unbiased as this tree is apart of my family, but if you haven't already, brettborders review is really detailed.

When holding this mango up close you can smell the "lemon zest", it has its own distinct smell. The mango was just over 5in long and weighed 471g, it was a bright yellow-orange when ripe. When I cut open the mango it revealed a bright yellow-orange flesh that was perfectly ripe. The juice from the flesh was syrupy and coated the flesh glazing it rather than being thin and running off. The polyembryonic seed was long and somewhat thick, but there was plenty of flesh to eat. The texture of the flesh was firm, thick, creamy, and completely fiberless. The taste was an intense endless sweet lemon with a slight honeydew nuance that captivated my tongue. At first bite I was surprised at what was going on and as I ate further I gained a real appreciation for what the Zill clan has done with this mango it is truly a unique mango that lives up to the lemon zest name. Towards the end i did not have a craving for another one though. I think this was my body's natural response to something that is so intensely sweet and lemony that if trying to eating another one I would incur an upset stomach. Overall I'm glad I planted out this tree and am looking forward to next years harvest.

-JoeP450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 28, 2013, 12:30:39 AM »
Here is a mango called ice cream which I purchased from truly tropical:








The first time I went to truly tropical I could not help my wandering eyes as I scanned up and down the rows of 50+ kinds of mangos trees my eyes would center on one peculiar tree. You know it's a mango but it stands out amongst the rest, this is the ice cream mango "IC". In the above picture, I have on the upper left a picture of the leaves of my coconut cream in comparison to the thin dark leaves of the IC. And below those you can see the full tree with its compact canopy.

The IC mangos shape when laying flat is similar to the side profile of the human skull, it has a lobed backside and then a jawline that dips down. This mango weighed 395g, was about 3.5in long and was ripe with a light yellow with some green patches. It had a slight sweet pine aroma to the outside skin. When I cut open the mango it revealed to my surprise a whitish yellow flesh. The flesh had some juice to it but was not at all watery instead the texture was smooth and had a creamy thickness that you could just savor with every bite. The seed was short and thick and i would say the flesh to seed ratio was good, it is also a monoembryonic seed. The taste was interesting because you are focused on the mouth feel and at the same time you are tasting a lemony sweetness that fades into a resinous aftertaste. After I ate this one I ate another, and after that I wanted another but I Have no more left! Definitely enjoyed eating this mango and plan to add this cultivar to my grow list.

-JoeP450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 27, 2013, 06:47:30 PM »
During the lecture at mango madness Chris Rollins said that people used to enjoy the turpentine mango by softening the mango into liquid inside the skin then biting a hole in the side and sucking the juice out. Since I had one last Tyler mango left I decided to give this crazy technique a shot. The Tyler mango is a great candidate for this because it is juicy, has much fiber, and the juice tastes amazingly good, similar to orange soda. I started by using my thumbs to forcefully press into the mango and rotate around thus liquefying the inside. Next with a knife I cut a slit in the side of the mango and then sucked the deliscious juice out. This is now my preferred method to enjoy the Tyler mango. If you happen to be by ensy's pick up two Tyler's and see which way you prefer. Below is the deflated Tyler mango, ; )



 -joep450

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Future I noticed that as well a while ago. I would say it is a poly just because it is from the orient but here is my predicament: I first purchased an ivory from fairchilds's mangofest "mangos of Hawaii", not a Hawaiian mango but it was at the tent for sale. At the time I thought this was the best I had ever had and so i planted it out and today am still on my way to try and fruit it. The seed looked like a mono and even sprouted only one shoot. A year went by and while at Excalibur I bought another ivory, and again I'm like this is so good let me plant it only this time it sprouted like 4 shoots, lol! So I would say most likely poly but not 100% sure. Here is a pic of my one ivory seedling which I just hacked back and is about to flush new growth. I am pretty sure that mangos of Hawaii fest was two years old and so this then this tree is ~2 years with a base trunk about a 1/2 dollar piece thick.






-joep450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 27, 2013, 01:16:28 AM »
Here is a Tyler mango I picked up from ensy's in Merritt island:








I guess "Tyler" must have really liked orange soda in his day because everything about this mango was one dimensional in your face orange soda. This mango had a very pretty red blush that faded into orange and was dotted with white spots with an oval shape. It was soft to the touch and the outer skin smelt strongly of orange soda. The mango was about 4.5 in long and weighed 378g.  I cut open the mango and it revealed a deep orange flesh that was loaded with juice.  It was not easy scooping out the flesh with a spoon because there was a good amount of fiber. The taste was very sweet and tasted like a jarritos orange soda even having a slight bubbly carbonated feeling on the tongue, much like how slopfog described it. I also opened the seed which looked like a monoembryonic seed. I find it interesting the differences in color between the two Tyler's now described.


-JoeP450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 26, 2013, 09:39:14 PM »
Here is a nam doc mai from truly tropical: of note when I picked this there was plenty more green on the tree and should be coming due soon.








I have had nam doc mai three times before and each time it is slightly different but here goes. The fruit was ripe with a slight tinge of green mixed in with yellow and had a slight rotten spot at the top. It weighed in at 343g and was 5.75in long. There was not much of a smell to the outside of the mango. When I cut into it there was a slight pleasant smell but nothing strong. The flesh was a yellow-orange, fiberless, very smooth almost gelatinous, not watery but moist. The seed was paper thin and long and the mango had nice flesh to seed ratio about the perfect single serving size, I did not feel like i wanted more or ate more than i wanted. The taste was good started off sweet syrupy with a slight funky aftertaste almost like overripe banana. Overall a good mango and I have heard that there are multiple strains of nam doc Mai ex nam doc Mai #4. I wonder if these all differ slightly in taste? During mango mania, I tasted the nam doc Mai from the fruit and spice park and it had almost a vanilla spice aftertaste, i liked it better than this one, cultivation methods maybe? probably a whole nother topic for another thread.

-JoeP450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango haul
« on: July 26, 2013, 09:15:49 PM »
Yes the royal purple are hard right now and I am determined to find out if these tastes like "concord grape" as advertised on their cultivars handout sheet. I think it's just a placebo effect because your eyes see the most unusually purple mango you've ever seen so it must taste like grape.

-joep450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Some Firsts
« on: July 26, 2013, 09:12:09 PM »
Swrancher: can you please review these in the mango reviews thread? I would love to see what the flesh looks like as well hear your tasting notes, those mangos are absolutely incredible and I'm so happy to see that is how the REAL coconut cream looks because on top tropicals silly site they have the coconut cream as pictured bright deep red!

Awesome mangos

-joep450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango haul
« on: July 26, 2013, 08:55:31 PM »



Here is an awesome pic I took: sunset, Edwards, royal purple, banana. ; )

-joep450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango haul
« on: July 26, 2013, 08:51:20 PM »
Edzone: the banana mangos I got aren't ripe yet and probably will take another 4-5 days. I'll open all the seeds and list what are poly and what are mono I plant to plant them all.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango haul
« on: July 25, 2013, 01:55:07 PM »
Today I took a trip up to ensy's mango grove in Merritt island fl, about 70 miles from where I live. It was  a drive but michael and angie definitely made it worth it. I had a chance to tour the grove and also purchase a basket of many mangos i never tried, super stoked! Here are a few pictures I took including some mangos from the haul. All of these mangos I will be reviewing in the thread "mango-reviews" stay tuned.



Here are some banana mangos hanging and look at that beautiful sun induced blush!



Another banana mango though with less sun exposure, noted the extremes in color and just how much the sun can play in coloration.





Forgot which mango this was but nice picture.





In this pic; from my mothers tree: lemon zest; truly tropical: nam doc Mai, ice creams, Haden, florigon; ensy's: orange dream, sunsets, royal purples, springfell, jd ensey, Irwins, Kent's, Edward, tylers, bananas, osteens, austins, carries, and cannonball.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 23, 2013, 11:34:19 PM »
Wow slopfog, I too have experienced the carbonated effect before once when I first tried a Valencia pride not sure how it is caused, but I remembered I was put off by it. I called ensey's today and spoke to Angie. I wanted to get the low-down because I'm gonna make the drive up on Thursday to try some of these unique mangos. I am intrigued by the royal purple and accounts of it having a grape flavor, I think this is just because it looks like a giant grape but ill probably cut up the mango and have my wife sample it and see if she deduces any grape flavor without looking at the skin first. That tyler mango looks delicious dude! Can't wait to check out ensey's. And she did mention to me that they don't propagate their "proprietary" cultivars so might wanna throw that seed n the ground.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 23, 2013, 11:03:40 PM »
Here is a Carrie that I bought from truly tropical:






I am a big fan of Carrie and I know most people have had it but here is my review. Usually I eat carries a little bit greener mostly because I just can't wait to eat them and because they can get more juicy the longer they are allowed to ripen. This carrie above at just over 4 inches long was a yellow gold with some green splotches mixed in and felt pretty soft and ready to eat. When I cut the top off I could immediately smell it's piney aroma similar of when you first open an orange you get hit with the bitter sweet smell of the peel. I next halved the mango which displayed a bright orange juicy fiberless flesh. Of note, of the carries I have had most have soft nose even though they are not so pointed I believe this is a side effect of really soft flesh. The flavor is very interesting in that as you eat it sort of changes shape from sweet mango with subacid citrus to an edge of piney-resinous aftertaste the closer you get to the skin. A delicious mango in my opinion. Yum.

-joep450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 23, 2013, 10:20:57 PM »
Here is a wise mango that I bought from Excalibur:








I don't know what happened here, so much that I had to eat a Carrie immediately after, but this wise mango was very strange and I'm still confused. Feeling out this mango it had plenty of give to it and even had spots were the skin was wrinkling and I wondered to myself how I ever let this get overripe? The outside was green with some light yellowing mixed in which was most evident at the top. When I started to cut into this mango my knife just sank into the skin as if trying to cut rubber. When I cut the top off I noticed there was hardly any smell even with my nose practically on the mango trying to find something. Next I halved the mango and to my surprise is was devoid of juice and the flesh was rubbery. Another thing i noticed was that the rind was noticeably thicker. When I started to eat this it was a struggle for my spoon to scoop out the rubbery flesh, which had a sort of mild pineapple flavor to it. There was no fibers present but it was hard to get past the rubbery texture and after three bites i threw it in the trash. I don't think I can judge this cultivar based off this mango, this has to be some fluke! Based on my experience I am hypothesizing that due to the unusually thick rind there might be some special method necessary to ripen this, camel dung maybe!?!? Who else has had a wise mango experience?

-JoeP450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango cocktail tree pairings
« on: July 22, 2013, 10:27:32 PM »
Did any of your Haitian varieties produce fruit this year? I had a Madame Francis about two years back and I thought the flavor was unique despite the noticeable fiber and really enjoyed it.  My issue is the Haitian mangos brought in by western beef this year are so incredibly fibrous I couldn't even eat them and threw them out, very disappointed.  Still searching for that first Madame Francis I had...

-joep450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 22, 2013, 10:14:28 PM »
Slopfrog: baileys marvel may be a common mango yet I have still yet to try one on my own, I think I have tried one in passing at a fest but I can't remember, either way the point is to collect pics of mangos and compare tasting notes and I appreciated your post no apology necessary. I recently picked up a nice looking Haden and a Carrie which I will review shortly and I'm pretty sure everyone has had Carrie before! Lol

-joep450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 22, 2013, 10:02:55 PM »
Here is a mango I got from Excalibur that had "TBK" written on it. The lady behind the counter said this was tog bi con, yet I was under the impression tog bi con was an Asian cultivar looking similar to ivory from an earlier Harry post. Bottom line is I can't find any info on "tog bi con" and so I have another mystery mango to review without the "peach buttercream nirvana" name bias.






This mango was almost 5in long and weighed 517g. The mango was ripe yellow with some slight green areas and slight pink blush on the top (hard to see in picture). It is more of a wide mango being just slightly longer than it is wide. When I cut the mango open it was absent of any strong delightful smell, but was was perfectly ripe absent of any soft spots on the beak with no bruising elsewhere. The flesh was a yellow orange, and completely fiberless. I had a difficult time evaluating the taste of this mango.  Its greatest feature was the large quantity of silky smooth fiberless flesh and then it was sweet. If i could try and relate it to another mango i would say the alphonso mango, which most people find as a delicious mango and what i think is a great all around mango that most people enjoy; this is partly because it is balanced and doesn't sway in any one direction taste wise yet it is sweet and has delicious texture. Overall this mango was great eating mango.

-joep450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 20, 2013, 10:01:55 PM »
Here is a mango I bought from Excalibur last week called xaoi cat hoa loc:








This was a pretty good size mango at 5.5 inches long and weighing in at 578g. The top shoulders of this mango had some slight splits which turned dark brown. When I cut the top off I was surprised by how strong the smell was, I could clearly smell it's sweetness from 3 ft away on the counter top with just the top removed. The flesh was a bright orange color, completely fiberless and smooth with some juice. The seed was pretty large but so was the mango with plenty of edible flesh. The taste was delicious and had hints of honey dew melon with a slight orange flavor and almost no tart. The smell  was very  aromatic. I enjoyed just smelling this mango let alone eating it lol. Random fact xaoi is the Vietnamese word for mango. Overall awesome mango.

-Joep450


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 19, 2013, 10:59:54 PM »
Here is a keo savoy mango I bought from Excalibur last week.










I am pretty sure that the keo savoy is supposed to be eaten green, this mango despite how green is was had a lot of give to it and felt ripe. This is a smaller mango which is 5 inches long with not too much girth and a lowercase "j" shape. When I slowly passed my knife through the side of the mango along the seed I could heard a "crackling" sound and before I had finished the cut I knew this was a tough mango. The flesh was a deep yellow and firm. What I found very  interesting was that the the fiber was not long and stringy like in those Haitian mangos from the store but short and bristly which was noticeable, not a fan of the mouth feel. In one of the photos above you can see some very small brownish bristles if you look closely. The flavor was just ok and had a sweet taste that faded to "funk" aftertaste complex. I thought the seed was odd looking as well.

-joep450

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: July 19, 2013, 09:44:09 PM »
Here is a mango I bought from Excalibur called "OKPT" last week. When I picked up this interesting mango I asked the Latino gal behind the counter what "OKPT" stood for and she said she wasn't sure and it was mis labeled so let the guessing games begin?!?! Could this be okrung pi tong?...it is definitely from the orient.










So where do I begin, I loved this mango. It is long at just over 7in and had a hefty weight to it, great length as well as width. This was ripe with yellow skin and brown spots. The flesh was light yellow, fiberless, and seemed like it was on its way to jelly seed the closer to the seed you ate. The flesh to seed ratio was incredible lots of delish mango to eat. The seed is the longest mango seed I have yet see at just over 6in and was very thin. The taste was very different from your tropical peach pineapple or pungent indian "funk" flavor, it was to me the flavor of banana and sugar cane combined. I am going to grow the seed from this mango just incase our paths never meet again.

-joep450

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