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Citrus General Discussion / Re: this isnt new news anymore
« on: April 29, 2014, 04:46:53 PM »
Greening is not just an inconvenience.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nippon Orangequat
« on: April 26, 2014, 12:03:29 AM »
I ended up ordering the Orangequat from the site you mentioned, I will let you know how it turns out.  Thanks for digging that up!

I also called Harris back today.  Same guy but I asked about Xie Shan and he said somebody would call me back tomorrow about it.

I hope that is a nice tree for you.  I was lucky to find my orangequat and am glad that I took a chance on something that at the time was totally unfamiliar to me.  It is a favorite of mine now.  Keep me posted on how it turns out.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus...Mulch or NO Mulch?
« on: April 25, 2014, 11:53:29 PM »
I made a 12 inch tall berm of mulch on an 18 inch radius around my trees just before winter.   I put 1 inch over the bare ground to within 2" of the trunk.  My trees gave me no problems through what was a cold winter for my area.  Some of that I will attribute to the mulch bank.  Still, I would not put 3 or 4 inches over the roots on the off chance that it might reduce oxygen to the roots. 

Good info. Thanks!

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Cold Hardy Citrus
« on: April 24, 2014, 12:09:39 AM »
greenhouse I presume?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: NBC Nightly News Citrus Greening Piece
« on: April 24, 2014, 12:07:06 AM »
I missed it, but here is a CBS news story from a while back:

Citrus Greening - CBS Evening News with Scott Pelley

Citrus General Discussion / Re: A few citrus in the backyard
« on: April 24, 2014, 12:04:20 AM »
Great pictures and fruit!  Thanks for the post!

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nippon Orangequat
« on: April 24, 2014, 12:01:29 AM »
This years Citrus Expo, spent the day with Dr. Powell (The man in the video) at Petals From The Past nursery.  Dr. Powell had many plates of various citrus set up on a long table for taste testing.  After testing all the varieties,   you voted for the best of the best.  Xie Shan won the contest. - Millet

Absolutely neat that you know this man.  He is a wonderful teacher on his videos.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nippon Orangequat
« on: April 24, 2014, 12:00:16 AM »
This site seems to have a sketchy reputation but if they are the only source I might order one from them.  I'm going to try to reach out to the only other potential seller I found ( but who knows how often the site is updated they might not actually have any.

I'm gonna sleep on it.

Yep, I'd call anyone before ordering if I had not ordered from them before.  Desire can often lead to bad decisions, so I absolutely agree with you.

Kishu, is a lot smaller than any of the other three varieties you mention. Gold Nugget is a superior variety. - Millet

My kishu have not been smaller than the mean average size of gold nugget.  It is still a young tree so the taste is not yet what it should be, but it isn't bad.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Oranges Color and Taste Comparison
« on: April 23, 2014, 11:36:17 PM »
I've had great citrus from California and Florida but I had some Ruby grapefruit from Texas that were the best grapefruit I've ever tasted. So sweet it was unreal. Tom

Oh snap...I think Mark might have been onto something wen he said Texas Citrus was top notch

Yes the best red grapefruit is the Rio Red in my front porch flower bed, but don't tell anyone; it's a secret!  ;)

They have different flavors, but all are much tastier than "fig newtons".  Generally you eat the skin and flesh which has a slightly gritty but not unpleasant sensation.  I hated the aforementioned cookies from my youth, but fell in love when someone gave me a few fresh fruit.  I will note that the "latex" in the plant stems can irritate your skin, so care or a long-sleeve  shirt is needed when harvesting or pruning.

Cara Cara is a nice orange.  A Satsuma mandarin isn't an orange, but tastes great.

PS:  Sorry I am in Texas, not Florida!

Perhaps a cold hardy fig tree such as Chicago Hardy, Brown Turkey, or Celeste?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nippon Orangequat
« on: April 23, 2014, 07:08:48 PM »
Awesome, I want one of these.  I prefer the very tart varieties and eat nagami kumquats and calomondins fresh so this sounds great.  If anybody finds a source please post here... I will do the same.

"characteristic, tasty edible skin but an incredibly tart and juicy interior, like an oversized Nagami kumquat on steroids"

I had looked into mandarinquats and similar but from what I read they don't taste good.

Since you are not in one of the forbidden states, you might have good luck here:

I bow to your superior drawing skills!  ;)

In zone 6, I don't blame you for no in-ground citrus, but how about a persimmon tree?

Citrus General Discussion / Just added 4 trees. New Front Yard Layout.
« on: April 23, 2014, 01:40:12 AM »
My mini citrus orchard:

Elsewhere I have 2 Rio Red Grapefruit, 2 Ujukitsu Lemons,  2 Blood Orange, & an Orangequat.

Now what can I plant on the balcony?  ;)

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Kishu Mandarin
« on: April 23, 2014, 12:50:08 AM »
howdy neighbor, i'm nearby Sugar Land, where did you get your kishu from Dave?

Enchanted Forest in Richmond TX about 3 years ago.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nippon Orangequat
« on: April 17, 2014, 05:39:51 PM »
The 2 1/2" fruit is very tart early on, but becomes progressively sweeter the more months it stay on the tree.  By that time it will have turned from orange to a deep red orange color and will taste like the old sweeTART candy.  Great at replacing lemon in drinks, it has a strong orange flavor.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Kishu Mandarin
« on: April 17, 2014, 02:17:15 PM »
My Kishu is surrounded by Cara cara, Nippon kumquat, Miho satsuma, Variegated satsuma, Mr. Mac satsuma, , Bloomsweet grapefruit, and Rio Red grapefruit.  I have never had seeds.  Perhaps Millet will venture along shortly with better information.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nippon Orangequat
« on: April 17, 2014, 02:10:43 PM »
Sorry to hear that they are hard to find in California.  You might ask a local nursery to check around for you.  Sometimes they can find trees from their suppliers.  My orangequat is only 3 to 4 feet, but it has been prolific. and I would miss it if it were gone.  One thing about the fruit, you either love it or hate it; there is no middle ground.

I have a Miho Satsuma in my yard that I will pit against any other citrus.  I'm surprised that it turned out so well since I just bought it because it was the only citrus at the nursery that year that was not a Seto satsuma or Meyer lemon.The Cara cara are a nice fruit.  Some nurseries here have called it Red Naval orange.  Kishu are good, and Meiwa kumquats are very cold hardy and are delicious eaten directly from the tree peel included.

Two others I will mention are Ujukitsu lemon which is sweet like lemonade and orangequat which can be used as a lemon substitute in drinks, but with a definite orange flavor.

Citrus General Discussion / Nippon Orangequat
« on: April 16, 2014, 11:17:44 PM »
If lemon no longer excites you, consider the orangequat.  Stays on the tree for months. Great in drinks.  This year I harvested the last 3 from my tree the final week of march.

Dr. Arlie Powell Orangequat

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Borer in my Grapefruit tree
« on: April 16, 2014, 10:43:28 PM »
Carpenter ants?  They love large trees especially if they can have aphids nearby.  As Millet suggests, a well placed phone call should bring help.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Oranges Color and Taste Comparison
« on: April 16, 2014, 02:13:20 AM »
Nothing on this Earth can Rival Florida Citrus...You can talk Texas up for days.....I aint buying it!

I always thought CA citrus was better than FL citrus--especially back in olden times when it was grown in Orange, Riverside, and San Bernardino counties!

Well, the best citrus is in my yard, but don't tell anyone.  It's a secret!  ;)

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