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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sumo seedling
« on: May 22, 2023, 01:50:45 AM »
Sumo seedling (from store-bought) flowering for the first time, after 5 years

I had given up on the original dream, due to space constraints as well, especially since I already had the CCPP wood on other trees.  So, I was going to graft the known wood onto this and add it to my new Sumo hedge.  I pruned it down to a stub so that I could graft low onto a new water shoot. I neglected to prune back the new growth to try to force the original graft, or even fertilize it properly. You can see all the thorny juvenile growth, but it has multiple flowers.  Wonder if it'll hold any?

As far as what might have triggered the flowering... Cold winter, neglect (water or nutrient stress) from last year, grafting of mature wood onto it?

Lakers still!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Show Your Loquat Fruits - 2023
« on: May 22, 2023, 01:29:52 AM »
Part of it is the presentation, and also the particular ones picked then.  I tried to make it more consistent this time.

Left to right, top to bottom:
Peluche, Argelino, Tori, Vista White
Peluche (source #2, probably not?), Big Jim, Harvest, Mogi
Wolfe, Aiden, Gold Nugget, Avri

So, Argelino seems to have the best ratio this year so far.  Peluche & Vista White are pretty close though.  I only had 2 Tori's at all, so they were pretty large given they were the only fruits on their respective branches.  Not sure what they normally look like.  Gold Nugget has had the worst ratio overall.  Wolfe & Aiden were also pretty bad, but they were on an outlying branch that hasn't been the most vigorous, so I'm not sure if they are typically so small.  The rest are pretty similar.  Not pictured here are Champagne & Sunset

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passionfruit container plant
« on: May 22, 2023, 01:24:24 AM »
It looks great!  I'm hoping to get a couple pots going similarly, but am concerned about watering them.  They are super vigorous, and I have had trouble keeping some vines in the ground hydrated.  What media are you using?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Inducing flowering in pomegranate
« on: May 22, 2023, 01:16:48 AM »
Poms seem to respond to a lot of water, especially if water-stressed.  One year, I didn't notice the emitter heads had clogged, so the trees were being underwatered.  After clearing them mid-summer, the rehydration triggered an off-bloom.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Show Your Loquat Fruits - 2023
« on: May 19, 2023, 12:23:51 AM »
First year tasting from grafts from the last 2 years, so just enjoying some of the possibilities. 

Clockwise from left: a solo Peluche, Argelino, Gold Nugget, Mogi, Harvest, Tori, Vista White

Clockwise from top left: Gold Nugget (30g), Mogi (34g), Argelino (67g), Peluche (116g), Tori (55g), Vista White (50g)

I got a small yard, so can't grow much, but am trying a couple things.  I try to squeeze everything in there, so they end up shading each other.  The marine layer mitigates the sun exposure most days anyways.  I'm not close enough to the water to worry about salt spray.

So far, pineapples, blueberries, strawberries, smaller citrus (lemon, calamondin), sweet potato are working out in half barrels.  Peppers, green onions, other veggies in smaller containers.  Jaboticabas are just starting out but should be fine.

Things I have in-ground, but am going to try to grow in containers instead include pomegranates and passion fruit.

Loquats, guava, most mangos will want big containers.  I have a 45g mango, and I'm not sure what to do when it comes time to root prune or up-pot it.  I have a recently grafted Pickering, so will see how it does in its container.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: down?
« on: January 15, 2023, 10:17:10 PM »
Scraped into a google sheet:
Just make a copy if you want to fiddle with it or the backing apps script for scraping.  When opening your own copy, you should see a "Scrape" menu to kick off scraping, but it won't overwrite anything.  You'll have to delete any plant or reference you want to get refetched.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: What kind of citrus was the best to taste?
« on: November 12, 2022, 12:19:58 AM »
Wow!  How would you describe the difference that makes Yosemite stand out?

wow, only 3 possibilities left, so if it ain't 79 or 83, then someone only needs to say...

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Root girdling
« on: September 16, 2022, 08:03:44 PM »
Thanks for the feedback!  At the current rate, I'm guessing the stub will be swallowed up in 2-3 years.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Tasting Loquats For 2022 Season
« on: September 14, 2022, 04:47:38 PM »
Interesting data.  Were the KT06 and KT23 getting overripe also? 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chopping down the losers videos
« on: September 14, 2022, 04:30:16 PM »
Inspiring and motivating!  I've been wondering when to stump the Holiday for next year's topworking.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sweetest citrus for mild climate
« on: September 14, 2022, 04:28:18 PM »
How mild is your weather?  Our location is like this:

Gold Nugget, Kishu, and Shiranui taste great for us. Cara Cara and Moro remained overly sour, so those are being topworked.

Citrus General Discussion / Root girdling
« on: September 14, 2022, 04:21:50 PM »
This Gold Nugget was planted almost 11 years ago, and I didn't know enough to pay attention to the roots at the time.

2 years ago, I noticed the smaller one crossing to the left, so cut that off, but I really should have cut it all the way back despite it already having merged with the lower root.  At this point, should I try to dig it out still?  Any options on the bigger one to the right of it going straight down?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pinkglow pinapple
« on: August 10, 2022, 10:39:04 PM »
I've seen unlabeled pink pineapples occasionally at the Torrance HMart and Gardena Ranch.  Tried it once, and seemed close enough to the official ones I've had, except less than 20 ea.  At HMart, they've been right next to the entrance in the refrigerated wall units.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passion Fruit problems in San Diego
« on: June 29, 2022, 01:53:30 PM »
I've not underwatered a vine to that point, but it would seem possibile, if there's no other animal/wind damage visible.  It flowers on new growth, so I don't like to keep old growth beyond the main structural elements.

Wow!  I'm almost willing to drive down, but I don't think my car is big enough to bring them home :P

Tea.  Loquat, but not sure about productivity in heavy shade.

My vine flowered late last year but I did not try hand pollination on it since I didn't think the fruit would finish before winter anyways, but nothing even set.  Trying manually with edulis pollen this year.  Was planning to use quadrangularis for pollination, but the vines didn't make it through the winter after planting them in the ground last year.  For yellow edulis, which requires manual, stage C is pretty guaranteed. Trying a little dab in the morning and the evening, just in case.  First flower was just a few days ago, so we'll see if the flowers start dropping or not pretty soon.  Going to have to look for new quad cuttings this year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Tasting Loquats For 2022 Season
« on: June 13, 2022, 02:16:09 AM »
Didn't get a single fruit this year, so hoping to live vicariously through any updates here :P

Good to know. I guess I'm not consistent enough, or thorough enough, in my irrigation.  I often see off-season bloom in our trees, including a Kishu.

Not saying this is it, but, water deprivation will cause citrus to rebloom.

Interesting about the flavor.  Seemed like creamy citrus to me, but I would totally appreciate coconut.  I wish I would have been able to sample CC and M4.  The most coconut I tasted was in some Pickerings, and maybe a few Pina Coladas (but those were more pina than otherwise).

For Gary, I tried 4 seeds, but only 1 sprouted 3. I split them just after sprouting to avoid having to untangle more roots later.  The runtiest didn't survive the winter, but #2 is hanging on, although very sluggish.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2022 Indian Mango season in SoCal
« on: May 29, 2022, 01:47:22 AM »
Thanks for the heads up!  Found a box at India Food Mart in Culver City.  All the other boxes were pre-claimed, so I guess you have to pre-order with the guy and he'll call you when he gets the boxes in.

Most were quite green.  This was the most yellow, so we opened it up to try.  We've never tasted Kesar before, so no point of reference here.

It was very jelly, and sweet, and had papaya tones, so we felt like it was a bit overripe.  There was some resin, but the sweet mush seemed to overpower it.
So, we tried the next most ripe one, which was pretty green.  Forgot to snap a pic of the exterior, but you can see the skin outline.

Texture was better, but stem end was still mushed, so not sure if it was damaged or just ripened unevenly.  The nose, though, was very tart, with a full spectrum, in between.  My daughter and I actually preferred the tartness vs the sweeter resin at the other end.

A Gary seedling, sowed last July:
I've only tried maybe 200 or so seedlings over the years, and the oldest survivors I have, in-ground, started flowering at around 5 years old at the earliest.  Just a curiosity, as it's among dozens of others next to the house.

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