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Interesting!  I have several of those kinds of fruitlets.  Wasn't sure if they would coalesce into a normal fruit, since some are looking more merged together than others.  It's odd that they're so much bigger already than the "regular" ones.  I was thinking that those might become the seeded fruit vs the seedless?

Largest Gold Nuggets have been close to 270g.

Only had 1 sumo this year, and it was under 1 lb.  Getting next year's contestants ready:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: June FL Trip
« on: April 28, 2022, 06:55:01 PM »
We went late June last year and over 10 days, ate 80 mangos, 46 varieties, although we didn't get to score the newer ones that I was most interested in.  Our first time for south florida and for most of these mangos.

Walter's was our first stop.  Ended up our favorite stop, and also yielding the most varieties overall.  Great people!
Tropical Acres was good, but I wasn't a fan of the black friday atmosphere.  Would definitely rather pre-order for pickup next time, but oh those Edwards!
Check out Hidden Acres.  We went after lotto hours, so missed out on a lot of stuff, but got to chat without the crowds and scored some other stuff.
Truly Tropical was only doing the van at the gate, but scored a bag of Sweet Tarts.
Didn't make it to Zill's or Mango Men due to scheduling (rest of family wanted to do other stuff for vacation other than looking for fruit)
Excalibur and Fruit & Spice Park (go early!) yielded a couple of other varieties.
Would skip Serendib and Robert Is Here next time.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Heat mat experiences
« on: April 21, 2022, 09:03:16 PM »
I have a cheap one, and put it on a piece of foam.  I use an old aluminum food tray on top to spread out the heat a bit. Also makes an effectively larger mat out of a smaller one.  Throw an old clear tote over it all.  I think the sand instead of the tray sounds like a great, and safer, idea though.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passion fruit hand pollination
« on: April 21, 2022, 08:30:32 PM »
I use q-tips, but I'd probably look for a nice brush if I needed to pollinate more often.

Looks like it.  It escaped through the bottom of the pot I tried to keep it in and was quite a pain to root out as it spread deep and far.


Citrus General Discussion / Re: sumo
« on: March 10, 2022, 12:38:03 PM »
Those are huge Sumos!  Does the neck stay green?

Many thanks for the recommendations!

What are your usual summer high temperatures?
I do not get enough heat to fruit Pierce but other varieties fruit well and taste sweet with moderate summer temperatures.
If you are regularly in the 80ís you can probably fruit sweet Cherimoya any variety.
Many donít sweeten right for me.

What varieties would work in a lower heat coastal area?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sumo Citrus
« on: February 15, 2022, 09:52:38 PM »
I'm still waiting on this guy from July

Finally chopped off the main branches this past Saturday to hopefully push it out

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sumo Citrus
« on: February 12, 2022, 02:55:53 PM »
I definitely enjoy more sweetness, but I don't like just sweet.  I think I could have picked this one earlier, or just skipped the post-harvest wait.  Can't wait for next season to figure it out more.  The heightened sweetness might have just been cultural in this case.  It grew at the very tip of the branch pointed up on the top southern portion of the tree, so it had the most possible sun.

I get store fruit from Ralph's.  I can survive off a piece a day, and stock up every week.  They smuggled them in for years before they became official, but not always the best selection, compared to Grow market where it started for us.  The higher demand now also leaves the boxes picked through more often than not.  Good enough though, given the convenience.  I just noticed that they sell bags of runts, but at the same price per pound, so why pay for more rind?  Fortunately, they taste the same.

I would try Ponkans if I ran across them.  We only occasionally make it out to HMart and 99 when we need more sinigang mix or it's been too long since I've had dungeness.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sumo Citrus
« on: February 12, 2022, 01:47:46 AM »
Couldn't wait to try it out.  It's been 5 days since it was picked, losing about an ounce of moisture.  No longer rock hard, but not yet loose.

Between store cousins, seems like I could have let it color up even more.

I didn't take inside pictures since it looked just like any other Sumo, but it felt and tasted a little different.  It was a bit crispier in flesh and tougher membranes, but it was much sweeter with less mandarin flavor.  No seeds.  Made us second-guess if it is a Sumo, but regardless, we actually prefer this level of sweetness.  Perhaps the Gold Nugget as interstock plays a role?  In any case, will be grafting more sites on the tree now.

Does everyone's Sumos taste better than store-bought?  I ask since my Gold Nuggets are pretty much the same as store Nuggets, and I don't have any other varieties to compare against store versions.

Are there fine spiderwebs around?  I'm guessing spider mites, which are hard to see.  They really get out of control when I bring plants indoors.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Sumo Citrus
« on: February 08, 2022, 03:32:21 PM »
Grafted Sumo just last year, so let 1 fruit hold to see how it would do.  With store fruits, I like it when they have just a bit of room in the skin.  This one is rock hard though, but it smells awesome and the Gold Nuggets are starting to flavor up, so I thought I'd pick it already.  May wait a week or so to see if it softens up a little.

Sumo on bottom left, without much of a knob.  It did grow "upside down", so...

One of the larger Nuggets:

Not that large compared to store bought, but perhaps average

Nice!  How's the flavor like?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: One Seed Loquat Fruit
« on: May 10, 2021, 12:13:29 AM »
This year I've been getting a good percentage of 1-seed Champagnes.  Although they're smaller outside, they usually have more edible flesh than the multis, so I look forward to them.  Not sure if related, but I had moved my only other tree, so there was much less chance of cross-pollination, since only 2 stalks of Big Jim otherwise.  Will see if the final batch of fruits will have less seeds since they opened after BJ was done.

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I haven't tried cuttings, and haven't had luck with air layering, but this study suggests that own-rooted air layers (and by extension, cuttings) would be equivalent to grafted trees (minus the extra anchoring ability of a taproot):

Totally.  At least here, monstera's grow easily and chopping off all the roots would only slow it down a bit.

Although not about compatibility, I saw this post from behl:

I only started a couple grafts last year, but the healthiest are currently on a Honey stump & Gold Nugget tree, in-ground.  I tried a couple on Cara Cara, but the in-ground ones didn't take and the potted ones are a bit sluggish so far.  Since the in-ground Cara didn't take even though it had calloused and was looking good, I had pruned it by half already, so at least i have a rootstock sucker now to try again later.  You could also skip the interstock with a low bark graft.

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