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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: March 19, 2024, 04:46:51 PM »
I also purchased Purple Pearl and Eastern Giant, but didn’t bother labeling.  This picture is after I moved to the greenhouse, but they spent all winter outdoors at the lower end of my property where the mornings are particularly cold.  Even with the additional cold strat, it’s been a chilly March so perhaps that’s slowed down the germination.  There are still a large number of seeds that are still sleeping.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: March 19, 2024, 04:08:59 PM »
Just noticed that my Yangmei seedlings are popping their heads out of the dirt after a long winters nap. These were the seeds planted from the Weee! local order last July. I just buried them in a bunch of small pots, left them outside, and forgot about them. 



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Nice!  Did you get the maprang?  If so, would love to hear your impression.  That’s on my list of fruit “not yet tasted”

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Tape
« on: March 07, 2024, 07:08:10 AM »
Do you have commercial nursery experience?

Quote from: SHV li ;) :) :) :)nk=topic=53986.msg515970#msg515970 date=1709773367
Bold statement.  Here is another one.  All I use is parafilm and my cleft grafts turn out just fine in cherimoya, mango, white sapote, and many others.  I don’t think moisture retention is the problem.  I wrap my grafts at the contact point with parafilm, then wrap again tightly with flagging tape to improve cambium contact.  Voilà

Not a commercial grower. Just a hobbyist farmer and dab hand at grafting with parafilm.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Tape
« on: March 06, 2024, 08:02:47 PM »
Bold statement.  Here is another one.  All I use is parafilm and my cleft grafts turn out just fine in cherimoya, mango, white sapote, and many others.  I don’t think moisture retention is the problem.  I wrap my grafts at the contact point with parafilm, then wrap again tightly with flagging tape to improve cambium contact.  Voilà

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are black and white sapote worth it
« on: February 23, 2024, 08:56:54 PM »
My first crop of white sapote on Suebelle tree was terrible.  The bitter aftertaste overpowered the mild sweetness, so much so that I almost cut it down.  So glad I didn’t.  Every crop has gotten better than the last with virtually no bitterness that I can detect. I’ve been harvesting for the past couple weeks with small fruitlets forming on the next crop and new flowers blowing up everywhere.  It’s a fruit making machine!
Cherimoya is an incredible fruit with a very unique blend of flavors.  I always describe it as a blend of banana, pineapple, and pear with no grit.  My biggest issue with Cherimoya is its insane sweetness.   A peak cherimoya is probably the sweetest fruit I’ve ever tasted and I’ve eaten my fair share of peak CA mangos that are borderline syrup.  With cherimoya, it’s one and done.  The seediness of cherimoya is also mildly annoying.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Cross Species Grafting
« on: February 23, 2024, 08:45:24 PM »
My Neilta seedling from Kevin Jones is probably the best tropical cherry I’ve eaten.  I had several last year in its first year producing and all were large fruit and excellent flavor.  The Garnet seedling was also a solid fruit, but if memory serves correctly, one level down from Neilta but better than both my in ground Exotica CORG seedlings. I was planning to graft them all (with orange CORG) to my 6ft, in ground seedling CORG that rarely produces a full size fruit. I only get runt fruit with no seeds with the occasional full sized, blah tasting fruit on this tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia Cross Species Grafting
« on: February 22, 2024, 10:35:36 PM »
So Orange CORG is not compatible with standard CORG??  Did not expect that.  Would love to hear from others that attempted this cocktail. I was planning to graft my Orange CORG to a mature CORG this spring as a backup and with hope that a diverse pollinator would improve fruit set.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are black and white sapote worth it
« on: February 20, 2024, 07:25:49 PM »
black sapote is trash, its a try once every 5 years to remember how bland it is to eat out of hand and forget about it for another 5.

Adding cream and sweetner makes it ok but if something cant be eaten out of hand i aint got time for that.

I respect that opinion.  Not everyone can have a refined taste  ;)
Certainly, Avocado is not a eat out of hand fruit and absent of sweetness.  Some might even consider it bland.  That said, most would consider it a luxury to eat with each meal.  I definitely got time for that!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are black and white sapote worth it
« on: February 20, 2024, 01:54:43 PM »
Both are worth growing.   Black sapote for its aesthetics alone is worth a spot in the yard.  Year round bright green, glossy leaves and withstands mild frosts make it a winner for SoCA.  The fruit have a rich creaminess with a molasses flavor unique in the fruit world.  Not the sweetest fruit of course, but not every fruit needs to spike my blood sugar.
White sapote is a top tier fruit.  I've tasted flavors from different selections that vary from vanilla custard, to caramel, and even a creamy citrus flavor.  It won't win a head-to-head taste test with a good mango or durian, but still better than most of the other fruits regularly discussed on this forum.  And, it's easy as hell to grow and produces tons of fruit when mature.  The best white sapote easily goes head-to-head with the best cherimoya by my humble, subjective opinion.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropic Pink Guava - anyone growing it?
« on: February 18, 2024, 06:49:46 PM »
I purchased a Tropic Pink guava from Home Depot 6-7 years ago.  The tree is a behemoth and produces more fruit than I know what to do with in late summer. Yellow outside, pink inside when ripe.  Nice tart flavor and insanely aromatic. 
I also purchased two tropic white guava trees from Home Depot around the same time. One turned out to be pear shaped, yellow skin and pinkish/orange flesh when ripe.  The other was a true white guava with pretty large round green skinned, white flesh fruit that finish ripening in the spring. Very creamy flesh.  Neither the pinkish orange or white guava fruit have any tartness when ripe.
My guess is that LaVerne nursery is growing these from seed and selling them to Home Depot with the parent names. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planted My Olosapo
« on: February 16, 2024, 07:25:45 PM »
I, too, got one from abimael777 last July.  It doesn’t look quite as nice as yours, but it survived a few nights in the mid 30s and a lot of nights in the low 40s unprotected. If they don’t make it through the winter here, it’s not worth my time.  This one looks like it’s going to make it and she’s pushing new growth, so maybe it will earn a coveted spot on the property this spring.
Anyone else from SoCA growing Olosapo?



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: February 09, 2024, 12:40:04 PM »
 ;D  No way that bear breaking your E. repanda was on you 2023 bingo card. In fact, that’s probably the first time that phrase has ever been uttered. Seriously, that’s a shame.  Hopefully it keeps growing and fruiting for you.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Got to try a Golden Soursop!
« on: February 09, 2024, 03:50:14 AM »
Where did you find this mythical beast?

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Toka Plum in SoCA
« on: January 23, 2024, 05:18:50 PM »
I just cut down another rotten apple tree and my wife wants a high quality plum tree.  Some of my upper Midwest coworkers are really happy with their Toka plum, but I can’t find any information about chill hours.  Does anyone have success with this plum in Southern CA?  I have a couple neighboring Aprium trees that perform well.  My hope is that they will serve as suitable pollinators. 

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I am interested to hear your assessment on the Mary Lane leaves.  I jog up and down Mary Lane on occasion and have spotted a large (white/yellow?) sapote tree on a big fenced in lot that overhangs the fence along the road.  After stopping to inspect the tree, I thought the leaves (slightly fuzzy) looked identical to my Suebelle tree. Based on his photos, the ML fruit shape look different, so I wonder if it is a wooly leafed hybrid like Suebelle. I grafted a few cuttings from this tree onto mine and I can’t tell the difference between the two. Hell, the tree I observed may not even be the same tree that Mark has named Mary Lane, but it’s the only one I’ve seen on that road. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Uvaia - Eugenia pyriformis
« on: January 20, 2024, 09:40:18 PM »
Ah, I should have investigated for mites.  I’ve never noticed them impacting my greenhouse but then I have never looked.  Scale is always my big nemesis there.  Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ?!!!
« on: January 20, 2024, 03:25:44 PM »
Yes, Garcinia mangostana is that good.  Its reputation is well earned.  A top 5 fruit in my book, and would be top 2 if it was a bit larger and easier to grow. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Uvaia - Eugenia pyriformis
« on: January 20, 2024, 03:20:24 PM »
Anyone seen this with their E. pyriformis?  I thought the malformed leaves were a result of burn from a light fertilizer application, but other Eugenias have received a similar treatment without issue.  Maybe overwatering?  It was growing like a champ through last winter and spring, then this issue arose early summer.





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Nice.  I will try that with some of my seedlings.  I’m a big fan of Surinam cherry, both resinous and non. I hope someone picks that up quickly.  It’s a solid buy. 

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I’m impressed.  That black star is awesome.  How much pruning did you have to do to keep it looking like that. Every uniflora I grow wants to be a bush.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Exotica Nursery Closing Down?!
« on: January 08, 2024, 11:52:32 PM »
That would be a damn shame.  He has some big, rare specimens in ground that can’t be realistically dug up and moved.  When I lived in Vista, I would go there to walk around just enjoy hunt for new stuff that I had never heard of.  2 months is not nearly enough time to move the nursery operation.  He has some fairly large greenhouses and propagation areas on site. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Evaluation of Shipped Mango Tree
« on: January 04, 2024, 07:23:12 PM »
I don’t care how good the foliage looks up top, that’s a ridiculously bad injury/scar on the trunk.  My opinion, that should refunded by the seller or at the very least, partial refunded if you decide to keep it. In my experience, wounds like that are more prone to fungal infection or retarded growth.

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No bait.  Just put the trap over their hole and when they run through it from either side, they trip the trigger in the trap, 💥, dead squirrel.  Those dumb ground squirrels don’t even try to avoid the trap or the lever holding the trap open. 

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Pretty cool. I’m curious to hear more about this plant/fruit as it gets more widely propagated. On a whim, I bought several seeds from Anderson tropicals and all sprouted and have grown well for about 10 months now.  No flowers yet. Let’s see if they make it through our winter temps.

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