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Unknown plant id, possibly a berry type fruit ???
« on: June 17, 2022, 05:28:36 AM »
Anyone recognize this species ?? The flowers are are grouped in the base of the leaves. Its growing now as a bush since it has been cut down in the past, so the true nature of it may be a little more tree like. 












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Re: Unknown plant id, possibly a berry type fruit ???
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2022, 09:58:25 PM »
I am not sure

I guess you can rule some things out

Also it has a lot of poke a dots on tree bark or

lenticels on tree bark

Have you ever saw this site
it shows you to look at key features

https://www.wildflowers-and-weeds.com/Plant_Families/Plant_Families_Index.html

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Re: Unknown plant id, possibly a berry type fruit ???
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2022, 03:46:46 AM »
I am not sure

I guess you can rule some things out

Also it has a lot of poke a dots on tree bark or

lenticels on tree bark

Have you ever saw this site
it shows you to look at key features

https://www.wildflowers-and-weeds.com/Plant_Families/Plant_Families_Index.html
Yes i also saw this feature on the bark, thats why i took a pic since i thought it will be of help for the id , i'll chek che site later....

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Re: Unknown plant id, possibly a berry type fruit ???
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2022, 11:50:54 AM »
Frangula caroliniana or Frangula alnus?

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Re: Unknown plant id, possibly a berry type fruit ???
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2022, 05:20:17 PM »
Frangula caroliniana or Frangula alnus?
To me it looks like the first one, the flowers on the plants i saw were the same, just not in such big clumps like in the net pics of caroliniana.
So it could be poisonous ?
I'll look out for the berries ,if it sets any and will update the post, but it sure looks like frangula caroliniana after i checked it, thanks !!

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Re: Unknown plant id, possibly a berry type fruit ???
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2022, 01:58:35 PM »
TRY HERE FOR SOME PICTURES

See (the link also if you click Rhamnus (aceae) family
second link (just a example if you use the site again it is new to me) (thanks for the ID Nate the great or close to)

http://www.namethatplant.net/plantdetail.shtml?plant=1212
http://www.namethatplant.net/4DCGI/Query?family=Rhamnaceae&per=WKL

This is the same family as the jujube (and raison tree ) as well as others including the bitters are in that family used in liqour (or that genus, and also used as a malaria medicine
(quinonin in bark as well as laxative , but be careful gathered more so out west in Califorina area  R. californica ),,,,

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Rhamnus californica (Rhamnaceae) and Umbellularia californica ... Chemical profiling detected the presence of quinones, alkaloids

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Re: Unknown plant id, possibly a berry type fruit ???
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2022, 02:00:16 PM »
posting quickly but read it in drunken botanist how the bark was used in liquor bitters , and still is

(edit was going to get reference maybe later )

About seeds though
here is a recipe to roast seeds of rhamnus species

(hank Shaw is pretty good non the less)

https://honest-food.net/california-coffeeberry-edible/


I have wanted to try this a number of years with our invasive European buckthorn (seeds )
I actually have some dried berries outside back door
(wanted to try to use for dye  for cloths which I have been curious about,
but have never seen a written reference to use yet so just for experiments
The entire upper USA (midwest) seems to be invasive European  buckthorn though Rhamnus cathartica ) 
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