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Cheribelle Atemoya
« on: December 03, 2022, 11:23:50 PM »
Anyone have knowledge of this cultivar?   It's supposedly a red fleshed variety. 

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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2022, 09:58:50 AM »
The name is enticing.  How did you hear about it?
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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2022, 04:38:59 PM »
I heard about it from a local nurseryman, and found out a bit more today.  First, wrong name.  It's "Cherilatte".

Richard Painter on Pine Island crossed 4826 Red custard apple with Cherimoya. 

Apparently the main appeal is the red colored flesh rather than exceptional fruit quality.

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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2022, 04:55:36 PM »
It's a cherilata. There are a few threads on here if you do a search. I'm not sure if there's been more than one cross but the one most people has been excited about is specifically John Painter's Cherilata.

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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2022, 05:39:26 PM »
To add it was formally know as cherilata whereas it’s now called “painter.” The fruit is exceptional, out of the ones I grow…dream, geffner, Lisa, na dai sugar apple, Fernandez reticulata… the painter is my favorite but preferences will vary.

Some pics from a fruit I picked off my tree this year, just fyi this is painter scions I grafted to soursop:






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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2022, 06:49:54 PM »
To add it was formally know as cherilata whereas it’s now called “painter.” The fruit is exceptional, out of the ones I grow…dream, geffner, Lisa, na dai sugar apple, Fernandez reticulata… the painter is my favorite but preferences will vary.

Some pics from a fruit I picked off my tree this year, just fyi this is painter scions I grafted to soursop:






-Joe

Awesome pics of the fruit Joe! If it is better than the ones you mentioned it is amazing! And graft compatibility with soursop! Sounds like I need to get this fruit!

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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2022, 08:34:16 PM »
The cherilatta is not stand out flavor or texture.  Regular cherimoyas are better. 
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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2022, 10:23:39 PM »



Cherilata T-bud to soursop.
Works on cherimoya and atemoya rootstocks too.
Graft to any rootstock you have.

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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2022, 10:44:59 PM »
The cherilatta is not stand out flavor or texture.  Regular cherimoyas are better.

Brad, which group do you fall into when it comes to Annona flavor and texture?

There seems to be a clear split of people into 2 groups for texture when it comes to favoring Annona.
-Soft, creamy, custard flesh
Or
-Firm, chewy flesh

Now, if you don't like them you will tend to describe one as either
-Mushy, baby food
Or
-Fibrous, chewy, scallop
LOL

Depending on the occasion I like them both ways.  All my family prefers the firmer texture of an atemoya. I prefer the texture of an atemoya but for flavor I favor the much more intense and complex tastes of a cherimoya.


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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2022, 10:46:40 PM »



Cherilata T-bud to soursop.
Works on cherimoya and atemoya rootstocks too.
Graft to any rootstock you have.

Wow Seanny, for California I don't see too often other Annonas being grafted onto a soursop.

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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2022, 10:50:20 PM »
To add it was formally know as cherilata whereas it’s now called “painter.” The fruit is exceptional, out of the ones I grow…dream, geffner, Lisa, na dai sugar apple, Fernandez reticulata… the painter is my favorite but preferences will vary.

Some pics from a fruit I picked off my tree this year, just fyi this is painter scions I grafted to soursop:






-Joe

Gorgeous fruits Joe! Yum!

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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2022, 01:05:17 AM »
The cherilatta is not stand out flavor or texture.  Regular cherimoyas are better.

Depending on the occasion I like them both ways.  All my family prefers the firmer texture of an atemoya. I prefer the texture of an atemoya but for flavor I favor the much more intense and complex tastes of a cherimoya.

I like both textures, probably Atemoya more.  Agreed that a cherimoya is more flavorful.

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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2022, 11:25:59 AM »
The painter isn’t mushy, it has a nice firmness resembling more cherimoya than it’s part reticulata parent, there is a lot of berry flavor in the fruit reminds me of strawberries and cream which I have never experienced in the cherimoyas I’ve eaten which are good but really apples/oranges in that comparison. Maybe it doesn’t perform well in Cali? That’s my only possible shread of explanation to brads comment 🤷‍♂️

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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2022, 04:19:24 PM »
I agree with Joe
It's an outstanding fruit in Florida. Another advantage is the cherilata ripens in the Spring after the
sugar apple and atemoya season.

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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2022, 07:56:25 PM »



I have 3 cherilata grafts on 2 soursop trees.
Soursop drops all leaves after a few hours of cold wind.
Cherilata doesn’t drop leaves.
I’m using cherilata as a nurse branch to keep the soursop alive over winter.


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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2022, 08:11:51 PM »
Can't grow good cherimoya fruit in FL, so Cherilata is a winner. Send moyas Brad! lol

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Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2022, 11:45:29 PM »
With any food, here is my family preferences in ranking order:
-texture.
-flavor.
-appearance.

With that said, we prefer atemoya over cherimoya.  If cherilata does not have that firm and slippery texture, we most likely don't like it.  So far Lisa is our favorite.

 

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