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Chandramohan

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Bacupari
« on: May 24, 2024, 09:19:04 AM »
I have some Bacupari plants from seeds from Raul. One of them has fruited and the fruit is same size as Lemondrop mangosteen. Is this G.brasiliensis or G.gardneriana?

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Re: Bacupari
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2024, 10:39:48 AM »
There seems to be some confusion or mislabeling going on, as I've seen the common name "Bacupari" put on a variety of different fruits. This may be similar to how in the southern Americas "sapote" is a general classification of soft and edible fruit, however we know call many different fruits sapotes. I have seen bacupari labeled on both G. brasiliensis and gardneriana, however the way that I tell the differentiate between the two are based on the fruits. G. brasiliensis, which is sometimes also referred to as Rheedia edulis, has a conical expression on the ends where the stigma can even be pronounced to a "nipple", the flesh is semi translucent. G. gardneriana fruit are more spherical and have a whiter, more opaque flesh compared to "lemon drop" as well as being larger in size.

How old was your gardneriana before fruiting? I am currently on the lookout for a source, I've been checking Oscar's fruitlovers page every day lol
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Re: Bacupari
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2024, 11:53:12 AM »
My tree is 5 to 6 years old. The fruits are the size and shape of G.intermedia. since I am in USA at the moment, I will be able to taste it when I go back in a couple of weeks time.


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Re: Bacupari
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2024, 06:41:13 PM »
Congrats, that wasn't too bad of a wait. I will say that the shape of your fruit is more rounded, and most variations I have seen of brasiliensis have more of a pointed stigma, but I have seen and had some that were rounded. Those are still green, I would imagine that your fruits should plump up a bit still. Hopefully someone with more years of experience can chime in on what you have

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Re: Bacupari
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2024, 09:32:44 AM »
The 3 mentioned species are very similar and each species has fruit variable in size and brasiliensis is the least likely to have the terminal beak. Gardneriana is often a bit larger and more orange when ripe.

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Re: Bacupari
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2024, 11:31:00 AM »
Yeah I have a Peritassa Campestris that is also called Bacupari. As mentioned it’s the same thing as Sapote it seems.

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Re: Bacupari
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2024, 11:51:54 AM »
The 3 mentioned species are very similar and each species has fruit variable in size and brasiliensis is the least likely to have the terminal beak. Gardneriana is often a bit larger and more orange when ripe.

Is it intermedia that has the beak?

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Re: Bacupari
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2024, 03:59:38 PM »
The 3 mentioned species are very similar and each species has fruit variable in size and brasiliensis is the least likely to have the terminal beak. Gardneriana is often a bit larger and more orange when ripe.

Is it intermedia that has the beak?

G. intermedia does not have a beak, from the specimens I have observed.

I am growing what I thought was an "improved" lemon drop/g. intermedia. Finally fruited last year; the fruit are indiscernible from g. intermedia in taste and appearance. I have another that recently fruited, that turns orange and has a beak. This one tastes a bit different, and must be either g. bras. or g. gar.; but only the Garcinia Gods know for sure (or Marta with her genetic tests=)