Dockys yard 2025

[docky]

Loving the new pics!

What's the fruit and taste like on that orange grumi/minutifolia??

It tastes pretty similar to eugenia azeda, really good for a eugenia sp. I only got to try pitomba once but from what I remember the flavor was similar

[docky]

Just noticed a few flowers on myc. Strigipese. This is its first time flowering, the plant is still pretty small and its only a couple years old. Hopefully this one sets fruit more heavily than myc. Glazioviana


Kinda looks like im getting first flowers on myc. Glazioviana var. "De cruz", but hard to tell. It might just be new growth. Ill find out in a few days, fingers crossed for flowers

[Luisport]

Just noticed a few flowers on myc. Strigipese. This is its first time flowering, the plant is still pretty small and its only a couple years old. Hopefully this one sets fruit more heavily than myc. Glazioviana


Kinda looks like im getting first flowers on myc. Glazioviana var. "De cruz", but hard to tell. It might just be new growth. Ill find out in a few days, fingers crossed for flowers

Your collection is amazing, congratulations! 

[docky]

Just noticed a few flowers on myc. Strigipese. This is its first time flowering, the plant is still pretty small and its only a couple years old. Hopefully this one sets fruit more heavily than myc. Glazioviana


Kinda looks like im getting first flowers on myc. Glazioviana var. "De cruz", but hard to tell. It might just be new growth. Ill find out in a few days, fingers crossed for flowers

Your collection is amazing, congratulations! 

Thank you Luis! Your plinia collection is amazing, and your pictures have me drooling constantly. Keep up the good work!

[docky]

Some pics of my varigated red hybrid, only the 3rd time its made fruit but getting some nice big ones!

[Luisport]

Your collection is amazing, mine is just a bit great... you are a big inspiration to me... thanks a lot! 

[docky]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Wanted to share a couple of pics. My Pingo de mel has been flowering for about a year now and it produces constantly! Seems to be producing pretty nonestop similar to GR2 which is my most productive jabo. The fruits are pretty good size too


More fruits from my eugenia labeled orange grumichama (pretty sure its minutifolia). The fruits are smaller this year than the last 2 years and all the fruits are seedless which is odd because the first 2 years it flowered all the fruits had seeds although only a dozen or so fruits set. This year several hundred set. Kinda bummed there are no seeds to share. Hopefully next year will have this many fruits but be larger and seeded.




Here is a pic of a little grafting project I've did on my large fruiting sabara. All scions were taken from my plants and the varieties I grafted were: oloh de Boi, varigated red, black velvet and varigated sabara, plinia datas, polpa roxa, and zona do mata. Grafted these up a couple of weeks back and not signs of growth yet. I did about 15+ more of these grafts on some smaller sabaras that I have in the front yard, hopefully will have a high percentage of takes.

Good news, the myc. Arborea that I had to stump because my bannana tree smashed it, is growing! I thought it may not survive. I managed to make some scions from the material and grafted it onto my myc. Vexator, hopefully some of those take.

[Luisport]

WOW Beautifull! Your orchard is an inspiration!
Congratulations!

[docky]

Thanks Luis! Its awesome to know we inspire and motivate each other!

[brian]

Looks great!   How does the grumichama/minutifolia fruit taste?

[docky]

Looks great!   How does the grumichama/minutifolia fruit taste?

Thanks! The grumi/minutifolia tastes similar to both of the other orange eugenia sp I have tried which are pitomba and e. Azeda. The flavor is sort of apricoty, good balance of sweet and sour( unless picked under ripe which is too sour), and a flavor thats hard to describe maybe "spicy" would be the description. Having that said all 3 of those orange color eugenias I've tried are my favorite eugenias I've tasted so far

[docky]

Picked these in my neighbors yard today and they are way bigger than usual. Biggest grumichama I've seen


Just noticed my e. Azeda is loading up with flowers. Hopefully i get a better pollination, its going to have way more flowers this time

[docky]

I could smell the flowers on my Eugenia azeda this morning from 30ft away

[elouicious]

your orange grumi fruits dont look like the ones I have had-

could be cereja de anestor?

[ScottR]

Docky wow, all those plants on 1-acre man it must be getting tight or will be but very, very cool!

[docky]

your orange grumi fruits dont look like the ones I have had-

could be cereja de anestor?

Yup thats what I think too. Grumichama leaves are bigger. The guy who gave me this plant bought the seeds as "yellow grumichama". He got them from Anestor before he passed away. The plant also looks identical to my eugenia minutifolia from Kameron. Ill try grafting one to the other some day...

[docky]

Docky wow, all those plants on 1-acre man it must be getting tight or will be but very, very cool!

Haha yup its pretty tight. The more I plant, the less I can mow and the more work I have to do with the weed eater

[docky]

Just noticed this morning that 2 of my lucs decided to reveal their sex today! One male:( and one herm:)
The male is covered in flowers and the herm just a single flower. I noticed a 3rd one is loading up with tons of flowers but none of them has opened yet, im guessing it will be a male given its flowering for the first time and has hundreds of flower sites. Ill post a pic of my herm lucs that I sell scions of later this week. I saw it yesterday and it has like 500+ flowers! So out of all my lucs that has flowered so far I have 2 confirmed males and 2 confirmed hermaphrodite. Not bad considering ive had 3 out of 4 imbes flower, all 3 being male

[cbss_daviefl]

I don't think a Luc's tree can be labeled as hermaphrodite until you witness them fruiting to maturity with seeds without being pollinated by other trees. Flowers on females have stamen but will not fruit without pollen from a male or true hermaphrodite. I cannot visibly tell the difference between a female and a hermaphrodite flower.  Sometimes male and female trees will form a small number of runt fruits without viable seeds.

[docky]

I don't think a Luc's tree can be labeled as hermaphrodite until you witness them fruiting to maturity with seeds without being pollinated by other trees. Flowers on females have stamen but will not fruit without pollen from a male or true hermaphrodite. I cannot visibly tell the difference between a female and a hermaphrodite flower.  Sometimes male and female trees will form a small number of runt fruits without viable seeds.

Thanks for the info Brandon! I was wondering about that myself. Last year I stumped my male tree ( it makes 1 or 2 fruits a year with aborted seeds) for the purpose of topworking it. Shortly after, the lucs that I assumed was a hermaphrodite fruited heavily without anything around to pollinate it and the seeds were all viable. I realized that if it was a female, that chopping down my male would have set me back and the tree wouldn't have set fruit. So I got lucky, and pretty certian the tree is a herm given it was the only flowering lucs I had at the time. Here is a pic of the tree now. Its the one I sell scions of. The male i stumped about 40 ft away from it still has no flowers, I grafted a few scions of the herm onto it and cut away all male growth. The other male I have is on the opposite side of the acre and will be stumped soon. Id be curious to see pics of the difference between female and hermaphrodite flowers.

[cbss_daviefl]

Sounds like your tree is a hermaphrodite. For 3 plus years, I had 4 female flowering trees that would not fruit properly. The trees flower 2 or 3 times a year so I would experiment with cross pollination and using pollen from a friend's tree.  Using male pollen always worked so I had 4 females. I then grafted a male and it took around 2 years to get a good crop. Lucky for me, a few male flowers go a long way.

Here is a close-up pic of some females. The one on the right had probably just opened and the left was probably a day or two since opening.

[docky]

Sounds like your tree is a hermaphrodite. For 3 plus years, I had 4 female flowering trees that would not fruit properly. The trees flower 2 or 3 times a year so I would experiment with cross pollination and using pollen from a friend's tree.  Using male pollen always worked so I had 4 females. I then grafted a male and it took around 2 years to get a good crop. Lucky for me, a few male flowers go a long way.

Here is a close-up pic of some females. The one on the right had probably just opened and the left was probably a day or two since opening.

I see what you mean about not being able to tell the difference between female and hermaphrodite, they look the same to me. Thanks for sharing the pic. I feel really lucky to have gotten a herm. That's awesome you were able to to get a good crop by grafting with a male.

[FruitForward]

Sounds like your tree is a hermaphrodite. For 3 plus years, I had 4 female flowering trees that would not fruit properly. The trees flower 2 or 3 times a year so I would experiment with cross pollination and using pollen from a friend's tree.  Using male pollen always worked so I had 4 females. I then grafted a male and it took around 2 years to get a good crop. Lucky for me, a few male flowers go a long way.

Here is a close-up pic of some females. The one on the right had probably just opened and the left was probably a day or two since opening.

Brandon, can you give a compare and contrast about growing and taste: Lucs vs Achacha in south FL?

[cbss_daviefl]

To be clear, I grafted male scions on my female tree but those grew once or twice and did flower but garcinias do not send energy to grafts on side branches. One graft is still alive on the tree but has been overgrown by the surrounding female branches. 

At the same time, I grafted on large potted rootstock with clefts to the central leader. One of those trees is the source of my pollen. I grafted it high with a large scion and it flowered after around 18 months.
 

I see what you mean about not being able to tell the difference between female and hermaphrodite, they look the same to me. Thanks for sharing the pic. I feel really lucky to have gotten a herm. That's awesome you were able to to get a good crop by grafting with a male.

[cbss_daviefl]

Brandon, can you give a compare and contrast about growing and taste: Lucs vs Achacha in south FL?

Taste is very different. When slightly under ripe, I prefer the flavor of a Luc's. At this stage, there can be an excellent sweet-sour balance and the flavors are powerful. There can be some flavor variation from fruit to fruit from the same tree, sometimes passionfruit or pineapple or mango flavor are added to the base garcinia flavor shared by achachairu, lemondrop, and others.  Fully ripe, Luc's has no acidity and flavor is toned down. I prefer the flavor of Achachairu over a fully ripe Luc's. Achachairu fruit have a thick rind and can last a few weeks after picking. Luc's can be picked a bit early and will continue to ripen with a short window in the slightly unripe range I prefer. Refrigeration can slow down this clock and the cold changes the perceived flavor a bit.

With Luc's, the trees will flower 3-4 times per year but so far, the January - February flowering seems to be the main crop. Maybe this will change as my male tree gets more mature. Fruits ripe over a month-long period, maybe a bit longer, usually starting in May/June. Achachairu has a main crop usually starting in July but the tree can hold fruit until October/November. There can be a small December crop too.

Achachairus grow fast in my yard, relatively speaking for a garcinia.  Luc's are easy but slower.  Neither like wind so don't plant in the middle of an open field or a newly planted area without some wind protection.