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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Navel vs Hamlin zone 8B?
« on: December 09, 2021, 09:57:31 PM »
Great to know, how does that Washington Navel taste? Is it much better than the store navels? The reason I ask is I have one more prime area in front of the house that I was either going to do a Satsuma or Washington navel.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Bumper Satsuma
« on: December 08, 2021, 06:59:55 PM »
I picked up a tree, I think it was released by the same fella behind artic/orange frost. In fact I think it was an earlier release. It appears not to be anymore cold hardy than other Satsuma varieties but very productive. Itís a nice looking tree though and only one left

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Navel vs Hamlin zone 8B?
« on: December 07, 2021, 06:51:42 PM »
Thanks Millet, when the trees get larger I will protect as much of the trunk as I can above the graft, if the top dies so be it

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Citrus General Discussion / Bumper Satsuma
« on: December 07, 2021, 06:49:51 PM »
Another newer Satsuma with little to no feedback. Anyone taste these yet? Cold hardiness?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Navel vs Hamlin zone 8B?
« on: December 06, 2021, 08:15:44 PM »
Banking with soil? Iím assuming you are referring to mounding soil up above the graft? My idea was getting a tomato cage to wrap around the trunks and place hay between the cage and tree followed by a wrapping of burlap

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Navel vs Hamlin zone 8B?
« on: December 05, 2021, 09:20:08 AM »
Are you guys keeping the trees in sheltered areas or any other protection measures?

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Thank you, excellent. I couldnít find much feedback on the taste of the artic/orange frost varieties. I like the traditional satsumas but am intrigued by the additional cold hardiness of the newer ones especially with a grand solar minimum soon to begin.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Navel vs Hamlin zone 8B?
« on: December 03, 2021, 04:12:49 PM »
Great to hear, I actually prefer the taste of Hamlin over Navel. I think it deserves more than being relegated to the ďjuice onlyĒ category!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus tree damage
« on: December 03, 2021, 03:18:24 PM »
Thanks, I just noticed it this morning, it didnít look too deep but it was peeling off a bit so I made it a bit bigger by accident

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Citrus General Discussion / Navel vs Hamlin zone 8B?
« on: December 03, 2021, 03:13:07 PM »
Which of these varieties would be better in a protected area of 8B. An area where supplemental heat can be supplied/south facing wall. Thanks!

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Looking to put in new satsumas. Just curious about opinions on these 4 varieties available at a local nursery. I was strongly considering the frost varieties due to cold hardiness but based on initial research that seems to be sketchy. Also very limited I do on the taste on the frost varieties. Any opinions greatly appreciated! Thank

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Citrus General Discussion / Citrus tree damage
« on: December 03, 2021, 11:01:17 AM »
Iím usually very cautious not to but defective trees( I tend to be destructive enough without help) but apparently I missed some pretty bad damage below the graft on this 5 gallon grapefruit. Is it worth keeping or salvaging or to compost camp?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Chocolate Sapote zone 9
« on: July 28, 2019, 11:07:24 AM »
Worth a try to grow in zone 9?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: zone confusion
« on: July 20, 2019, 11:56:58 PM »
Most of the real healthy mango trees I see in Orlando are hiding behind stone walls of those gated communities. They look lush and quite large but Iím sure they look crap in winter.

 Aside from Jaboticaba I planted Suriname cherry, June Plumb, Barbados cherry, Indian gooseberry, pineapple and a few other things.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: zone confusion
« on: July 20, 2019, 10:05:48 PM »
Only 5 degrees is a big difference in terms of borderline plants. I planted a bunch of things hardy for 9b but not for 9a but Iím still not positive on my zone. I believe being in the green swamp region takes me down to 9a. I even dropped big bucks on a large Jaboticoba which is tolerant of 9b but is bight questionable here! Too late now though. I have too many trees planted too protect now. Iíll stick with peaches and nectarines if my stuff takes a crap this winter..

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / zone confusion
« on: July 20, 2019, 08:44:43 PM »
Is Clermont/Groveland a zone 9a or b? I planted  things hardy to 9b but the bomb was dropped on me that itís actually 9a yet most maps consider it 9b? I do notice a temp drop of at least 5 degrees between my cousin in winter park and Clermont. I also notice many more tropical /semi tropical trees in Winter Park as compared to here. Thanks in advance!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Should I be concerned
« on: June 17, 2019, 07:04:13 PM »
Iím not sure if I should use tree paint or something on it, the tree was perfect till this....grrr

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Should I be concerned
« on: June 17, 2019, 05:16:02 PM »
My tree got scraped near base during transport? Lost bark


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Wax Jambu and starfruitcold tolerance
« on: June 16, 2019, 11:47:28 PM »
Anyone have wax jambu growing in zone 9? How does it handle cold? Starfruit ?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Florida food forest ideas.
« on: May 31, 2019, 10:22:32 PM »
I have mango in ground but the freezes we get every couple winters will knock them back or freeze them to the trunks. Papaya has the same issue. At least where I am(about halfway to Cocoa along 528) papaya do not last very long due to the cold and its not common to see them in their large forms. I would get a mango though, just don't expect the giant tree versions you see in warmer climates.

Being papaya fruits real quick if I start with a 7 gallon in spring Iím sure Iíll get fruit.


Green Papaya is useless to me, but being I will have a greenhouse Iíll start seeds this summer and plant next spring so Iíll get fruit. I heard Red Lady is good but if Iím going the seed route Iíll experiment with many types. I see 3 gallon red lady for sale a lot so Iíd imagine theyíd produce ripe fruit by fall

What about Green Sapote or seasonal fruits like watermelon?
Start papaya yourself by seed it is very easy and only would need a 1 gallon pot. Most nursery grown papaya trees I have seen are way overgrown leggy and not worth the money. You can grow far better papaya plants yourself. Transplant immediately after last possible frost. You can have green papaya quickly but ripe will take 9 months or so. Highly recommend Red Lady, I have planted 200 of these seeds and never got a male plant, sold many 100's lbs of fruit.
 
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Florida food forest ideas.
« on: May 31, 2019, 02:47:58 PM »
I have mango in ground but the freezes we get every couple winters will knock them back or freeze them to the trunks. Papaya has the same issue. At least where I am(about halfway to Cocoa along 528) papaya do not last very long due to the cold and its not common to see them in their large forms. I would get a mango though, just don't expect the giant tree versions you see in warmer climates.

Being papaya fruits real quick if I start with a 7 gallon in spring Iím sure Iíll get fruit.

What about Green Sapote or seasonal fruits like watermelon?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Florida food forest ideas.
« on: May 31, 2019, 02:46:39 PM »
Legume nitrogen fixing trees like Inga or Guamuchil.Mesquites.

Ice cream bean tree? Would that survive?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Central Florida food forest ideas.
« on: May 30, 2019, 03:30:48 PM »
After consulting those on the citrus forum it looks like HLB contraction is 100% guaranteed given enough time so citrus is off the list....

 I may try to plant a mango if I feel a spot is appropriate. Iíve seen papaya fruiting in the area too so if papaya can survive I canít see how mango wouldnít


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus worth planting?
« on: May 30, 2019, 03:26:43 PM »
The chance of your citrus tree contacting HLB in Florida is about 100%.  It is just a matter of time.

 Thanks Millet, Iíll leave citrus out of the equation

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Not Citrus Weather In Colorado
« on: May 30, 2019, 03:25:41 PM »
Actually I love that type of weather hot/humid but Iím in the minority

You would love where I moved from after 42 hot years - Corpus Christi.  HOT and muggy.  At 6:00 a.m. their heat index is in the 90's come April or May.  It's not unusual to have daily heat indices in excess of 114F in the summer.  I hate it and would never go back.

Indeed I would like it!

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