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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: roblack on January 13, 2023, 05:36:05 PM
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Hello mango growers!
Curious about flowering and productivity around Florida and abroad. Especially interested in sharing info on new varieties, in addition to experiences with classics as many of our climates are shifting.
Currently seeing flowers on Sugar Loaf and Ceci Love.
Sugar Loaf
(https://i.postimg.cc/ThDt7Nz4/Mango-SLflower12023.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ThDt7Nz4)
Will traverse the jungle to check on other varieties.
After a crappy season last year, hopeful for even a decent year.
Please share your experiences and let us know what is flowering.
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Several trees are breaking bud and flowering already. I will wait until this current cold spell passes before making an assessment on what the season may be like.
I expect one maybe two more deep drops before spring (after this weekend). Depending on the timing of those cold spells, it could be boom or bust.
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It's a weird phenomenon in my yard: Two small trees - both in ground, are blooming: 3gal Nam Doc Mai and 7 gal Carrie. None of them will be allowed to fruit. The 3 25gal potted trees: Cat Saigon, Fruit Punch, and Maha don't show any sign. Maybe they are shy in the new house, who knows. I am leaving them outside for the Sunday cold snap (lowest temp will be around 40) to see if they'll do anything.
Last year, i got my mangoes from Fruitscapes and other places in Pine Island. Not sure where to go to satisfy my mango addiction for this year.
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Sugarloaf, a 7-gal containerized Madame Francis, and one of my Pickerings are flowering. I'm hoping the buds poking out on a lot of my seedling trees are going to turn into panicles. I am afraid of frost Sunday morning and hope this is the last drop into the 30s this season.
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Bailey’s marvel and Pickering are just starting to push buds in my yard. Hopefully floral and not foliar…
Still dormant: sugarloaf, NDM, pineapple Pleasure and Keitt. I expect everything to push atleast some panicles out in about three weeks with lows under 60 for the next 6 or 7 days consecutively.
roblack, what age are your sugarloaf and cecilove just curious? ( my sugarloaf had flowered 3 years in a row but always drops the few fruit it sets…) im planting a cecilove this summer…
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2 branches of CL, with multiple smaller branches, were grafted summer 2021, or maybe 2020. lol, not entirely sure at the moment. Mature enough to hold some fruit, but wouldn't let it get crazy yet.
Sugar Loaf is a nice little tree about 8 feet or so. In ground a couple of years, planted as a 5 gallon (again, not entirely sure. Could've been a 3g). It has flowered and fruited, but yet to get ripe fruits. Animals beat me to the only holdouts last year.
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So far only seeing flowers from sugarloaf and a container Julie.
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My young Maha Chanok bloomed and set a couple of pea-size fruits a few months ago, but only on the north side of the tree. Now the south side has begun pushing out bloom buds. The 37 degree temperatures at Christmas didn't appear to have hurt anything.
My Glenn hasn't shown any bloom or growth buds lately.
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Seems Sugarloaf is an easy flowerer. Ours is covered in blooms, noticed now that I have more closely inspected. Roughly 40 - 50% of tips show blooms at the moment.
Glenn still quiet here too.
Just noticed blooms on guava mango (Sein Ta Lone) today. Super excited, as first flowering for this tree and its a beloved mango. Tree is well over 10 feet, in ground a couple of years, and the blooming branch tips are pretty thin.
(https://i.postimg.cc/q6RD45d3/Mango-Guava-Bloom12023.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/q6RD45d3)
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Rosigold is way ahead of the game. Luckily didn't get affected by the cold spells. Hopefully we're done with cold this season.
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I live in Highlands County and NO blooms whatsoever here, I have a Glenn, 2 Cogshall, Maha and Keitt (though very small tree for being 15 years old). I'm okay with it not having blooms yet since I still have appx 6 weeks of "possible" freezes here...already had 6 or 7 days of overnight lows in the lower 30's, frost but not actual freezing temps. Definitely this year is much later than last year. I had blooms on most of my trees by mid January...Had zero mangoes last summer due to several hours of hard freeze... temps in the mid to upper 20's on January 30 2022...killed all the blooms and many branches got damaged also on my mango trees and just about anything else in the yard :'(.
Hopefully I won't get blooms till late Feb but that is highly unlikely :o
Anyone else have blooms on their mango trees in Central or South FL? Lychee is blooming now but won't hold my breath...I've had freeze/frost kill those the last 3 years also. I really hope we all get mangoes and lychees this year! Last year was horrible for having no mangoes!!
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I live in Highlands County and NO blooms whatsoever here, I have a Glenn, 2 Cogshall, Maha and Keitt (though very small tree for being 15 years old). I'm okay with it not having blooms yet since I still have appx 6 weeks of "possible" freezes here...already had 6 or 7 days of overnight lows in the lower 30's, frost but not actual freezing temps. Definitely this year is much later than last year. I had blooms on most of my trees by mid January...Had zero mangoes last summer due to several hours of hard freeze... temps in the mid to upper 20's on January 30 2022...killed all the blooms and many branches got damaged also on my mango trees and just about anything else in the yard :'(.
Hopefully I won't get blooms till late Feb but that is highly unlikely :o
Anyone else have blooms on their mango trees in Central or South FL? Lychee is blooming now but won't hold my breath...I've had freeze/frost kill those the last 3 years also. I really hope we all get mangoes and lychees this year! Last year was horrible for having no mangoes!!
Has your Keitt tree resisted MBBS? Didn't you used to have Pickering, as well? Good luck with the fruit this year! :)
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I have seen some mango bloom already in Highlands County. Someone sent me a pic of a peach cobbler in Sebring that was blooming on Thanksgiving.
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Lots of blooming on my Glenn & Orange Sherbet trees and a tiny bit of blooming on Pickering and Sweet Tart. This winter has been pretty chilly so I'm hopeful.
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That's great news Julie! Keeping an eye on ST and OSh over here, neither has fruited for me yet. This might be the year.
Would be cool to have an interactive map showing mango flowering and fruiting trends across the state, year to year.
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Posted by: johnb51
[/quote]Has your Keitt tree resisted MBBS? Didn't you used to have Pickering, as well? Good luck with the fruit this year! :)
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Hi John! MBBS? Not sure what that is, please elaborate :) <y Keitt is in a very shady area now, it didn't use to be shady when I first planted it, but the neighbors Oak trees have grown so much now that it is so it gets very little sun, it has produced a few times in years past but it's a very small tree (also suffered several freezes) in the last few years which really stunted it also.
Very good memory John...I did use to have Pickering but around 8 or 9 years ago we decided to put a screened in porch in the back and guess which mango tree was smack right in the way of the location of the new porch? Yes, my poor Pickering had to go and it was already too big to re-locate and I never replaced it...I do miss my Pickering SO much!!
Thanks for the good luck wishes, I need it :D
Thanks ALL for sharing your mango blooming progress...
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Hi John! MBBS? Not sure what that is, please elaborate :)
Mango Bacterial Black Spot. Quite an issue in Palm Beach County anyway.
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That's great news Julie! Keeping an eye on ST and OSh over here, neither has fruited for me yet. This might be the year.
Would be cool to have an interactive map showing mango flowering and fruiting trends across the state, year to year.
I started with larger trees and got some Orange Sherbet mangoes last year. Mine were good but not as good as the ones from Dr. Campbell. ST has not fruited for me yet but it has one panicle now. Unfortunately not very many people are interested in developing technology related to growing your own food. If I had more time I'd create a gardeners journal or something like that
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Thanks John for the clarification , I get sooty mold from time to time with Keitt, probably due to the fact it's in a shady area, hope MBBS stays away here, too many other issues to deal with already :)
Happy to hear some of you are getting blooms, fingers crossed this year will be better than last year.
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Glenn appears to be pushing now =)
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I hope this is a good sign for my Maha in 25g pot.
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Looking flowery to me Tom! Good luck with the Maha!!
Add Sweet Tart to the blooming trees in our yard, along with Glenn, Sugar Loaf, Ceci Love, and Sein Ta Lone (Guava). Hard to say bc buds are tiny, but Mmmmmm4 may be joining the fruiting crew as well.
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My trees are already starting to push and show signs of flower panicles up here lol. I wish everyone the best for mango season 2023. Hopefully it's good. There's so many varieties I missed trying last year I need to make up for this year!
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...plus Maha grafted branch now too =)
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It looks like it's going to be a good year. I've got confirmed bloom on Banganpalli, Jehangir, Kesar, Jumbo Kesar, Julie, Dot, East Indian, Janardhan Pasand, USDA Himsagar, Neelam, Mahmood Vikarabad, #11, and Alumpur Baneshan. I'm spraying the heck out of them this year cuz I'm tired of losing fruit to powdery mildew attacks. Waiting for bloom on Borsha, Malda, Sindhri, Manohar, Sonpari, Panchadarakalasa, Dashiri and Royal Special.
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Has anyone grown them off season before? I was curious if the quality is lower. I struggled with mangos for years (killed so many trees) and finally grew my first one (ate it 1 week ago). My plant (Pickering) flowered in the fall cause I left it outside until September. I got my first fruit around jan 10. Tasted great, but then again I’ve only had poor mangos up here in Canada. So I was thinking I could try and stagger my trees and get them fresh all year.
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It looks like it's going to be a good year. I've got confirmed bloom on Banganpalli, Jehangir, Kesar, Jumbo Kesar, Julie, Dot, East Indian, Janardhan Pasand, USDA Himsagar, Neelam, Mahmood Vikarabad, #11, and Alumpur Baneshan. I'm spraying the heck out of them this year cuz I'm tired of losing fruit to powdery mildew attacks. Waiting for bloom on Borsha, Malda, Sindhri, Manohar, Sonpari, Panchadarakalasa, Dashiri and Royal Special.
Probably most interesting collection of mango trees, why did you decide on these varieties?
Thanks,
Joe
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Has anyone grown them off season before? I was curious if the quality is lower. I struggled with mangos for years (killed so many trees) and finally grew my first one (ate it 1 week ago). My plant (Pickering) flowered in the fall cause I left it outside until September. I got my first fruit around jan 10. Tasted great, but then again I’ve only had poor mangos up here in Canada. So I was thinking I could try and stagger my trees and get them fresh all year.
It's not the best to grow mangoes in the winter in my experience. I try to time mine in coordination with the FL schedule. The summer heat really helps with it. My trees will flower around march but this year it looks like early to mid feb. If it blooms during fall, I'd try to remove and reset the flowers. The ones I let fruits during winter up north just never grew big and didn't have the best taste they could have gotten.
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It looks like it's going to be a good year. I've got confirmed bloom on Banganpalli, Jehangir, Kesar, Jumbo Kesar, Julie, Dot, East Indian, Janardhan Pasand, USDA Himsagar, Neelam, Mahmood Vikarabad, #11, and Alumpur Baneshan. I'm spraying the heck out of them this year cuz I'm tired of losing fruit to powdery mildew attacks. Waiting for bloom on Borsha, Malda, Sindhri, Manohar, Sonpari, Panchadarakalasa, Dashiri and Royal Special.
Great Indian collection!
Let me know if you want to trade for some zills/old Florida varieties this year…message me. Thanks
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It looks like it's going to be a good year. I've got confirmed bloom on Banganpalli, Jehangir, Kesar, Jumbo Kesar, Julie, Dot, East Indian, Janardhan Pasand, USDA Himsagar, Neelam, Mahmood Vikarabad, #11, and Alumpur Baneshan. I'm spraying the heck out of them this year cuz I'm tired of losing fruit to powdery mildew attacks. Waiting for bloom on Borsha, Malda, Sindhri, Manohar, Sonpari, Panchadarakalasa, Dashiri and Royal Special.
Please send address! =)
Those are some really interesting varieties; wonderful mix. Exciting thinking of what's to come
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Orange Sherbert is jumping in now, and a recently planted Edward is pushing blooms too. Oh, and Kesar is getting busy with the blooms.
Waiting on Kasturi, which may be stressing from no rain, along with Coco Cream and NDM4. All others are either flowering, in pots, or not ready to hold fruits.
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My Madame Francis is the only one blooming now. That's good, Ill have some early :-)
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I now have 100 percent FULL bloom on Bailey’s marvel, Pickering, sugarloaf is blooming from
all stems except for the New growth below large branch I trimmed last summer.
Side note:
Maybe this always happens ??
Pickering oozed white sappy liquid from all stem ends while pushing bloom spikes out, and sugarloaf is oozing black sappy liquid from all flower spike ends as they emerge.
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Wow, great news most everyone!
Seems will have a long season here, with flowers currently in all different stages.
Feeling really happy, as I just found blooms on Coco Cream. Such a great mango, when it produces.
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I just had my Alphonso start flowering up here, I tried keeping it above 65F to prevent it from flowering but it didn’t work.
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As per request of someone here are some pictures of the flowering trees now. Photos don’t go through pms so now you all have the privilege of seeing them lol. Mango trees are not hard to grow or fruit so this year I’m going to invest in several more varieties especially after tasting and selecting my favorites each summer. This year it looks like my blooms are more in line with FL as opposed to blooming later like most years. Hope you all enjoy!
(https://i.postimg.cc/zLgp2FWj/70000-B02-5-A8-C-427-B-81-CE-F320-CD03223-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLgp2FWj)Ndm-4
(https://i.postimg.cc/Hrj6XgkF/8-A6-EB4-B1-CB97-41-BF-84-AD-4-D3-D91516-BF6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Hrj6XgkF)Fruit punch
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(https://i.postimg.cc/tZGkKnNH/EB4-BE551-FC50-436-D-8-ACF-8-E5-F3-BBCC9-BC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tZGkKnNH)Another view of ndm
(https://i.postimg.cc/CRtm4QZ5/FA104860-BC4-E-4-C36-AA89-3-C5-CB2-B22-F88.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CRtm4QZ5)Mallika early panicle
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Let's hope this year makes up for last which for me, stunk!
My couple year in ground trees looking like i'll have fruits to remove if panicles keep coming! :)
M4 & Pickering almost every branch will have them. Last year zero on all.
Cogshall starting, Maha nothing, Peach cobbler nothing, Phoenix nothing, Raw honey nothing.
Big ol Kent starting.
Hope they live up to the tasting table vids, i never tasted any. Heck i love my Kent though.
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Jabo, your trees look flawless, what’s your secret?
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Jabo, your trees look flawless, what’s your secret?
Thank you! Not really a secret, but they just seem to grow for me. I did struggle with anthracnose or something and maybe sooty mold, but spraying with neem oil and copper fungicide cleaned things up. The trees pictured are in ground or in rootmaker pots that are bottomless so they are growing directly into my native soil which is part clay. Seems to be doing fine. It must be those turpentine rootstocks carrying them LOL.
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Thanks SO much for posting those pictures Jabo!! Kudos to you for having such great success growing them in TN, you deserve a huge pat on the back! Just amazing, and your hard work is paying off... Best of luck and may you have many mangoes to eat this year ;D
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Jabo's in Tn not Fl mind you. Jabo, do you guys get anthracnose & pm like we do? Just asking.
Ed
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Side note:
Maybe this always happens ??
Pickering oozed white sappy liquid from all stem ends while pushing bloom spikes out, and sugarloaf is oozing black sappy liquid from all flower spike ends as they emerge.
This is happening on my pickering as well. Its a new tree for me so wasn't sure if it was normal.
On a different note, my glenn is pushing pannicles from all over the tree the last few weeks.
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Jabo's in Tn not Fl mind you. Jabo, do you guys get anthracnose & pm like we do? Just asking.
Ed
Hi Ed,
I've had anthracnose on a tree before, but spraying got rid of it. The greenhouse can get pretty wet and condensation can drip at times which is not the best. Luckily it's only during winter.
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Thanks SO much for posting those pictures Jabo!! Kudos to you for having such great success growing them in TN, you deserve a huge pat on the back! Just amazing, and your hard work is paying off... Best of luck and may you have many mangoes to eat this year ;D
Thank you! The same to you also. Mango is such a good fruit I regret not buying more when I first started of collecting. Oh well, that just means getting more trees now!
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Thanks SO much for posting those pictures Jabo!! Kudos to you for having such great success growing them in TN, you deserve a huge pat on the back! Just amazing, and your hard work is paying off... Best of luck and may you have many mangoes to eat this year ;D
Thank you! The same to you also. Mango is such a good fruit I regret not buying more when I first started of collecting. Oh well, that just means getting more trees now!
Jaboticaba45: Your mango trees look amazing. And doubly impressive that they are flowering already. How warm do you keep the greenhouse in winter to get bloom this early?
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Thanks SO much for posting those pictures Jabo!! Kudos to you for having such great success growing them in TN, you deserve a huge pat on the back! Just amazing, and your hard work is paying off... Best of luck and may you have many mangoes to eat this year ;D
Thank you! The same to you also. Mango is such a good fruit I regret not buying more when I first started of collecting. Oh well, that just means getting more trees now!
Jaboticaba45: Your mango trees look amazing. And doubly impressive that they are flowering already. How warm do you keep the greenhouse in winter to get bloom this early?
Thank you! I let it go between 40-45 sometimes even lower. Seems counterintuitive, but as long as it's above freezing, it's ok to get cold temps (I know people who keep theirs at 55 out of fear the plants will die) This year it may have gone below that when it was super cold (maybe 35?). Other than that, not much. Normally they bloom later. I don't know what's happening. The mallika panicles are only 2 on the tree right now, and are just early ones. I suspect the main bulk will pop in a month or so. Still pretty early though. I guess downside is there are no bees, but not worried at all. Plenty of ants and others going around. I've never seen bees on mango flowers.
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hijacked!
Very little Lil Gem wants to get in on the action:
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Sugar Loaf. Tree is covered with inflorescence, all branches (some are just getting started).
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Guava/Sein Ta Lone
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Fruit set shots should be coming soon
...a little worried about the rain forecast this weekend. Might have to break out the leaf blower and dry some flowers =)
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Jabo, looks great. If i had 50k burning a hole in my pocket, i'd have a pool co. put up 20x60 pool enclosure over my mango trees lol. No squirrels!
Rob, i hear ya re rain coming, we shall see. Only 1/4" last month which my lawn can testify.
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Miami-Dade had a near record low for Jan 2023 (.05 inches), which is about 5th least rainfall since records have been kept.
At out home, via my weather station, we got .03 inches of rain in January. Have barely used the sprinklers as well. I think that and the cold spells have been contributory to the flowering extravaganza.
Time to water
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Miami-Dade had a near record low for Jan 2023 (.05 inches), which is about 5th least rainfall since records have been kept.
At out home, via my weather station, we got .03 inches of rain in January. Have barely used the sprinklers as well. I think that and the cold spells have been contributory to the flowering extravaganza.
Time to water
Wow, I hadn't checked the drought monitor map recently, looks like most of Florida is more dry than usual, with some parts up north even up to D2 level drought:
(https://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/data/png/20230131/20230131_fl_trd.png)
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Central Broward, my Pickering appears to be in a deep coma. :-\
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Wake that Pickering up Carbo! Too much dry will not be good for flowering and fruit set. Afraid this has occurred with our m. casturi. Watering it periodically now to wake it up. Can't flower if too dry. Can see it in the shape and feel of the leaves.
Have started watering all of our mango trees.
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Finally I can say that Dot will have bloom. Orange sherbert 80% of tree has bloom very little mix.M-4 and Karen Michelle blooming. Strangely Pickering still dormant
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In south Florida Not everything is going to flower off what we got, so don’t think that everything is blooming based on the reports you’re reading. It’s been an extremely warm winter outside what we got a couple weeks ago. So far some prominent hold outs , aside from the usual suspects (Sindhri, Dasheri, Gilas, Sey Pasala) are Van Dyke, Valencia Pride, Various Mangifera species, and several others.
If your tree doesn’t push panicles within the next week or so, there is still time for another cold front, but this month is likely going to finish way above average.
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True, while not everything is blooming, a lot are up in Jupiter (just a little further north of Palm Beach).
Unfortunately some varieties are showing a whole lot of mixed bloom especially those just opening bud now. PPK for example is only just pushing and it appears it will new vegetative growth. M4 appears finally ready to push and I am optimistic it will flower, it has been warm for some time though so who knows. Son Pari has not bloomed in my yard (still a small tree).
I believe the excitement is because many varieties responded well to the Christmas day and January cold snaps, more than we would have expected given both were not sustained chills and temperatures rose quickly after.
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The Good News for my plot of land in Martin County, Fl.......... Almost 100% of the trees have buds,panicles, or blooms on them or have previously had them over this winter of the mature trees that produced fruit last year.
It has not rained over the past week here. Since I do not live on coral calcium deposits a foot down, my trees that are over 6 yrs old should be able to easily pick up water since my water table is only 6 to 10 ft. below the sandy surface usually. Thus if mature trees, use your head and ask the question, "Do I really need to water my mature mango trees?" Now if they are small and newly planted, that's a different story.
Some of the previously mentioned in this thread that I grow:
Valencia Pride and Kesar have a few panicles and many buds.
Pickering and Himsager are blooming.
PPK,M4, Keitt, and NDM has buds/few panicles.
Glen,coconut cream, sugarloaf, Madame Francis,Maha,Fruit Punch, and Dot are blooming
At this point, it looks like it could be an above average mango crop in 2023 at my residence. But as they say, "Don't count your chickens before they hatch."
I am also especially excited about 4 seedling trees of unknown varieties that are sending up buds/blooms; as I get to possibly try a totally new variety in the future.
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...a little worried about the rain forecast this weekend. Might have to break out the leaf blower and dry some flowers =)
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Roblack your trees are doing great! Looks like a good year for you
. My trees have started to flower also, some are barely an inch long while others have fully emerged. The Keitt, Maha and 2/3 of the Glenn are the ones most far behind. One Cogshall is barely starting while half of my 2nd Cogshall are almost fully emerged. It's amazing how different the blooming stages in my mango trees. Same temperature water and sun ::)...weird. My Lychee is in full bloom, the last 3 years I've not had any fruits from this tree either due to freeze and or who knows what Lol...
Congrats all, thanks for sharing your pictures... hope this year is bumper crop for all of us ;)
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I've been taking (almost) daily pictures of my mango trees to monitor their progress. I Below pics are from my Maha.
(https://i.postimg.cc/YLvRPpzK/Maha-01312023-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YLvRPpzK)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Lh5x5TKC/Maha-02022023-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Lh5x5TKC)
(https://i.postimg.cc/SJzV7xKc/Maha-02032003-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJzV7xKc)
(https://i.postimg.cc/JtFPkkR1/Maha-02042023-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JtFPkkR1)
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Rosigold is way ahead of the game. Luckily didn't get affected by the cold spells. Hopefully we're done with cold this season.
yoski this looks great. Did you protect it during the Dec freeze/do you find this variety fairly easy to grow?
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It looks like it's going to be a good year. I've got confirmed bloom on Banganpalli, Jehangir, Kesar, Jumbo Kesar, Julie, Dot, East Indian, Janardhan Pasand, USDA Himsagar, Neelam, Mahmood Vikarabad, #11, and Alumpur Baneshan. I'm spraying the heck out of them this year cuz I'm tired of losing fruit to powdery mildew attacks. Waiting for bloom on Borsha, Malda, Sindhri, Manohar, Sonpari, Panchadarakalasa, Dashiri and Royal Special.
Probably most interesting collection of mango trees, why did you decide on these varieties?
Thanks,
Joe
I guess I'm just a sucker for the unusual. The downside of collecting oddballs is that there are often very good reasons they are uncommon. Not fruiting well (or not fruiting at all) seems to be a pretty common one :-(
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I've been taking (almost) daily pictures of my mango trees to monitor their progress. I Below pics are from my Maha. "
Tom, my Maha and a few other mango trees are about the same size in blooms as yours.
My Lychee Tree, I hope I get some to form fruits this year :) but who knows Lol...
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This is my 15 year old Keitt...it has been my smallest tree, grows very slow plus it has been damaged severely by freeze for several years and is planted in a shady location.
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Blooms starting to emerge...
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My 15 year old Glenn in comparison to my Keitt...
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Hurricane Irma tilted the tree to the right...but seems to doing fine.
(https://i.postimg.cc/WtvcxR7v/IMG-7947.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WtvcxR7v)
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My healthy young Maha blooming like crazy, with one little peanut size fruit from a bloom during the Fall.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52669974287_ffce110291_z.jpg)
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Ended up getting a lot of rain
.39 yesterday, .97 today
Used the electric leaf blower to dry panicles on a few trees, lmao
...some spray, I blow dry
Great news Palmcity! Coco Cream blooming is no small thing, and 4 unique seedlings would be the most exciting to me as well
Thank you Puglvr1!
Beautiful Maha Calusa. Pretty fruits soon, to go with a pretty tree
Hear ya FruitNoob, getting that daily dose of dopamine from checking on flower spikes and fruitlets is a nice break from the crappy newsfeeds and stresses of life. Keep the updates rolling!
Hope to see some fruitlets soon on those greenhouse mangoes Jabo!
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My healthy young Maha blooming like crazy, with one little peanut size fruit from a bloom during the Fall.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52669974287_ffce110291_z.jpg)
That's really cool. Maha is not considered precocious. My tree was about 3 years old and twice that size before it blossomed for the first time. Maha has great looking fruit--the shape and the coloring--oh, and great tasting, too! Don't let it hold too many this year.
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My healthy young Maha blooming like crazy, with one little peanut size fruit from a bloom during the Fall.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52669974287_ffce110291_z.jpg)
Great looking Maha Calusa! Very healthy. I do love my Maha and I agree with John the fruit is yummy and nothing beats the fragrance of a ripe Maha, it's heavenly
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Pickering
(https://i.postimg.cc/hXtj2VYS/AB480757-C707-40-DC-AC0-D-B6997-F6825-E1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hXtj2VYS)
Bailey’s Marvel
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How old and how big is that Bailey's Marvel tree, Honest Abe? Beautiful tree! Bailey's Marvels are awesome.
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How old and how big is that Bailey's Marvel tree, Honest Abe? Beautiful tree! Bailey's Marvels are awesome.
Fliptop, thanks. I planted my Bailey’s marvel 2019 as a 3 gallon from Julian Lara of Lara Farms in homestead. I told him “I need a mango tree just for my wife, she wants a classically flavored “Miami mango” that reminds her of all the generic Miami Haden seedlings and such. He didn’t hesitate to recommend Bailey’s Marvel and told me I’m in “the honey zone” and that he thought most mango trees including that one would do great there.
What I didn’t know to expect was the incredible vigor even with my yearly tipping and shaping, not his fault I didn’t ask…but WOW that thing grows as fast as a Valencia pride…FAST. One large tree is nice for shade and a swing for the kiddo but I fear it’s massive potential and difficulty of picking in the future as I know I can’t expect to keep it that size with good production forever.
What I also didn’t expect was a flavor and desert quality that lands it top ten list amongst giants like sugarloaf, cecilove, sweet tart, pineapple Pleasure…
It’s a 10/10 for me but I LOVE ridiculously sweet mangos.
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Bloom
(https://i.postimg.cc/gw3wpgZy/IMG-1858.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gw3wpgZy)
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Agreed, that is one beautiful Baileys Marvel!
It's funny when the blooms appear to be weighing a tree drown. Amazing inflorescence Palmcity!
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Bought this Carrie mango tree in April/May. Got knocked down pretty hard by Ian. Still loaded with flowers. Waiting for the fruits to form to nip off .
(https://i.postimg.cc/wy7QXczN/Carrie-02092022-2a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wy7QXczN)
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How old and how big is that Bailey's Marvel tree, Honest Abe? Beautiful tree! Bailey's Marvels are awesome.
Fliptop, thanks. I planted my Bailey’s marvel 2019 ......
What I didn’t know to expect was the incredible vigor even with my yearly tipping and shaping, not his fault I didn’t ask…but WOW that thing grows as fast as a Valencia pride…FAST. One large tree is nice for shade and a swing for the kiddo but I fear it’s massive potential and difficulty of picking in the future as I know I can’t expect to keep it that size with good production forever.
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Regarding the size of your BM, do not fear. Mine started gangbusters, like it was reaching for the sky, got a a nice shape at about 16 feet and slowed down. I can manage it at that height by removing wood (major branches) strategically every other year or so. The tree is 15 years plus old, and has varied in height between 14 and 18 feet (20 feet tops) in the last 8 years or so based on my control measures.
My is an alternate bearer. It fruits heavily one year then very lightly the next. Not sure if it naturally behaves that way, or if does in part as a result of my management actions. I had read or heard somewhere that Dr. Campbell recommended removing woody stem (nitrogen stored in the tree) to tame a vigorous tree.
Went searching and found it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMhmNAiRHC0
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Girlfriend's Pickering in Bonita Springs
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y4ScqmRj/IMG-2685.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y4ScqmRj)
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Okrine, thanks for that info…mine has bloomed full for three years now, I remove some wood that’s vertical and tip prune anything vertical that is left. Result is a very wide tree.
Alex Salazar has stated that a vigorous tree that is maintained at a small height will eventually just want to push foliar growth, but HOW small is the confounding variable.
From what your routine sounds like, yea I guess yours seems to alternate bear because you prune heavily every other year and therefore needs to replace leaves instead of flower on those years.
Thanks again that’s great info I’ll keep pruning after harvest and hope for the best.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/xXNV7xQg/IMG-20230210-071325690-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXNV7xQg)
2018 Coconut Cream seedling
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Wow, that CCr seedling inflorescence bundle looks sweet!
Summer 2022, chopped about 1/3+ of my CCr to graft other stuff, most of which did not take. Now, CC is blooming. Wish hadn't chopped so much.
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One-year-old Sugarloaf. Even if it sets any fruit, they will be removed, of course.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wtMVvL09/20230210-110430.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wtMVvL09)
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Thanks, roblack! It's its second year flowering--last year's fruitlets got destroyed in the freezes. Hopefully we're in the clear this year. I'm glad the tree seems eager to flower; hopefully the fruit tastes good. The leaves don't smell like your description of Coconut Cream leaves, though, so I'm nervous.
johnb51, I have a Kathy in the same boat as your Sugarloaf
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0nNxvFp/IMG-20230210-122537784-HDR-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0nNxvFp)
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If it's really CCr, you will love it fliptop.
Leaf smell can vary, especially at different times of the year. Post fruit pics when it gets going, they have a look to them.
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Wow, that CCr seedling inflorescence bundle looks sweet!
Summer 2022, chopped about 1/3+ of my CCr to graft other stuff, most of which did not take. Now, CC is blooming. Wish hadn't chopped so much.
Perhaps the stress from losing a third of the canopy is why its blooming :)
Enjoy fruit from the remaining 2/3rd.
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Might cut 1/3 again then! =)
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Careful not to end up with a stump and one panicle.
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In Cape Coral here and Ian impacted my little Mango forest, but not quite as bad as I thought it would. I was just starting out so most of my trees were small. I lost 4 (Keitt, Orange Sherbet, Seacrest and Coconut Cream) and by that I mean they trees are gone... poof... never found them. (snapped at the ground below the graft) All but 2 of my remaining trees were pushed over. Those two were both pickering... I also have a dozen or so other trees in pots that were largely unscathed, just some minor leaf damage. So, I righted everything and replaced the coconut cream and seacrest, added a Karen Michelle, M4, Orange Essence and Cotton Candy.
Hows things today? Everything seems behind.
Pickerings are just starting to bloom, one heavily and the other not so much, but I had pruned it pretty heavy before the storm.
Pineapple pleasure is blooming for the first time!
Dwarf Hawaiian Blooming also first time.
The new M4 is in bloom and other one still recovering, no signs of bloom.
Honey Kiss is blooming but its way too small to hold fruit.
Spirit of 76 is blooming but its way too small to hold fruit.
Rosigold flowered but dropped all its fruit. For me this tree is hard to keep clean. It's got an insect / sooty mold issue. Happens every year which is strange because its surrounded by other trees (in pots) that are not affected at all.
Ice cream flowered well but isn't holding on to the fruit. No biggie its a small wirey tree and could use another year.
My first Seacrest is really beat. Looks like its alive and starting to wake up. The new one is resting and still in a pot.
Peach cobbler looks healthy and might be starting to flush.
Sugar loaf is starting to push some buds... hopefully flush.
Lemon Zest leaves are really beat and its pushing buds of some sort.
Cotton Candy, Glenn, Sweet Tart, Karen Michelle, Orange Essence and Pina Colada all dormant
So, better than I expected. I'll be happy getting a bunch of pickerings and hopefully trying Pineapple Pleasure and Dwarf Hawaiian for the first time.
Good luck everyone!
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Awesome collection, bburdzel! How big is your property? Among other things, Ian snapped the top part of my Ice Cream Mango tree off, and if it didn't get entangled in part of my fence ~100 feet away, would've kept going. Fortunately, the break was well above the graft and the tree is recovering.
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Awesome collection, bburdzel! How big is your property? Among other things, Ian snapped the top part of my Ice Cream Mango tree off, and if it didn't get entangled in part of my fence ~100 feet away, would've kept going. Fortunately, the break was well above the graft and the tree is recovering.
Less than a half-acre and its pretty much maxed out. 20 trees in the ground and another dozen in pots. Its tight... need an intervention.
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Okrine, thanks for that info…mine has bloomed full for three years now, I remove some wood that’s vertical and tip prune anything vertical that is left. Result is a very wide tree.
Alex Salazar has stated that a vigorous tree that is maintained at a small height will eventually just want to push foliar growth, but HOW small is the confounding variable.
From what your routine sounds like, yea I guess yours seems to alternate bear because you prune heavily every other year and therefore needs to replace leaves instead of flower on those years.
Thanks again that’s great info I’ll keep pruning after harvest and hope for the best.
Abe, I just realized I described what happened to my Beverly not BM.
Brain fart I guess. I hope the pruning suggestions helps with managing the vigor of your tree.
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Okrine that explains the alternate bearer part at least ! Beverly is a fantastic mango. Keep up the good work.
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Since Coco Cream grows vigorously, 1/4 - 1/3 might be about right some years.
Glenn/CeciLove tree:
(https://i.postimg.cc/PL5k0pw1/Glenn-Ceci-Love-Blooming2023a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PL5k0pw1)
Sugar Loaf
(https://i.postimg.cc/Zvpk66Gz/Glenn-Ceci-Love2023b.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Zvpk66Gz)
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My Pickering gave us 90 delicious mangoes last summer. This season, however, looks like a bust. Mid-February and one pannicle has popped up while the rest of the tree appears dormant. :( Why?? :'(
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My Pickering gave us 90 delicious mangoes last summer. This season, however, looks like a bust. Mid-February and one pannicle has popped up while the rest of the tree appears dormant. :( Why?? :'(
Most of our Pickering trees have fairly complete blooms but there are a couple that have weak partial blooms.
As far as the why, you can blame the weak winter. Warm winters like this reduce the likelihood of trees flowering, particularly if their stem tips haven’t had a lot of time to mature. This isn’t uncommon with trees that had large crops the prior year and flushed growth later in the year consequently.
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Makes sense. . .after the mangoes were harvested last summer I gave the tree a moderate trimming in mid July. Two growth flushes quickly followed. So that may be why I'll be buying mangoes at Costco this summer. >:(
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My Bailey’s Marvel os really struttin’ its’ stuff now..let’s see how fruit set is…
Mango tree porn
(https://i.postimg.cc/9DQjNmrF/3020-A1-DE-D73-A-4-D0-D-8-B35-D73-D93-DB2-FBC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DQjNmrF)
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Carbo, skip Costco and buy your mangos from
squam256
Buy them from
Alex, online, at
Tropicalacresfarms.com
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My Bailey’s Marvel os really struttin’ its’ stuff now..let’s see how fruit set is…
Mango tree porn
(https://i.postimg.cc/9DQjNmrF/3020-A1-DE-D73-A-4-D0-D-8-B35-D73-D93-DB2-FBC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9DQjNmrF)
Put a webcam on it and rake in the dough
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Sugarloaf
Planted 2019
Tip-pruned annually
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Great pictures of Mango trees blooming everybody!! I just hope we have a better mango season this year...
My 15 1/2 year old Glenn, I love this mango sooo good and the trunk is pretty short for being this old and has a pretty wide canopy which I really like, more branches for blooms/fruits. Its finally busting with flowers.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nC2Vhqbf/IMG-7975.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nC2Vhqbf)
(https://i.postimg.cc/D4bCYrrJ/IMG-7976.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D4bCYrrJ)
Same Tree taken in 2009 after severe freeze damage
(https://i.postimg.cc/3458fTD3/Mango-4-7-09-006.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3458fTD3)
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Wow! That's a great looking Glenn. :)
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Wow! That's a great looking Glenn. :)
Thanks Calusa!!
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It begins...
(https://i.postimg.cc/DSx4hHkx/20230218-132555.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DSx4hHkx)
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My Glenn started shooting some bloom buds this week.
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Nice!! Congrats :D
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Cogshall (with a branch of PPK on the right) is in full bloom. The love bugs have been on it for weeks now. There were more flies a few weeks ago but now it’s all love bugs.
(https://i.postimg.cc/F7Xc62Xk/D5148380-2251-40-EE-B159-1-B9-B5-A587105.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F7Xc62Xk)
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My mangoes were hit by frost last winter and then more damage from Hurricane Ian. I was sure I’d get nothing this season, but
Pickering is in heavy, full flower.
Maha Chanok, Angie and Jean Ellen are flowering some.
Carrie is just breaking a few. Nothing yet from the Carrie seedling.
Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Great pics and updates everyone! Trees are going even crazier around here now. Still looking for fruit set.
Was up around Lake Okeechobee this weekend, saw some mango trees in different states of blooming. A couple of tees had what appears to be cold burnt panicles, while others with fresher flowers looked healthy. Several trees had some pest issues, while a few looked very clean. Will be interesting to see how their season turns out.
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Big things have small beginnings:
(https://i.postimg.cc/MvBGZht8/Sugar-Loaf-Fruitlet2202023.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MvBGZht8)
SugarLoaf
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(https://i.postimg.cc/mt92fhdb/IMG-20230220-170642008-HDR-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mt92fhdb)
Pickering fruit set
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(https://i.postimg.cc/mt92fhdb/IMG-20230220-170642008-HDR-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mt92fhdb)
Pickering fruit set
Remember, Pickering drops most of those tiny fruit and still gives you a shitload.
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Yes, even with the ones that've turned yellow and dropped, there's still an absurd amount growing. Also growing is the Coconut Cream seedling's panicles. Only one branch has panicles, though.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wR2dpWfJ/IMG-20230220-181036584-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wR2dpWfJ)
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I nominate sugarloaf for the most beautiful mango bouquet of 2023…
(https://i.postimg.cc/47DfdbbX/CA698-C2-F-B793-48-A2-A6-F8-9-C13-E436-AD33.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47DfdbbX)
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Check out neighbor's giant tree, probably Haden
(https://i.postimg.cc/VrN5wvTD/Mango-Jerry-Gina22023.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VrN5wvTD)
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Check out neighbor's giant tree, probably Haden
(https://i.postimg.cc/VrN5wvTD/Mango-Jerry-Gina22023.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VrN5wvTD)
I'm seeing a lot of trees like that around here!
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Bought my first mangoes of the 2023 season: Cat Hoa Loc mangoes. To my novice palate, it's meh.
So look forward to tasting FL mangoes!
(https://i.postimg.cc/xkf9998g/IMG-E6675.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xkf9998g)
(https://i.postimg.cc/f38DL10s/IMG-E6676.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/f38DL10s)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XrcVMrjp/IMG-E6737.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XrcVMrjp)
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I nominate sugarloaf for the most beautiful mango bouquet of 2023…
(https://i.postimg.cc/47DfdbbX/CA698-C2-F-B793-48-A2-A6-F8-9-C13-E436-AD33.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47DfdbbX)
FILTHY!!
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I nominate sugarloaf for the most beautiful mango bouquet of 2023…
(https://i.postimg.cc/47DfdbbX/CA698-C2-F-B793-48-A2-A6-F8-9-C13-E436-AD33.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47DfdbbX)
What a beauty, wish I could have that good blossom on mango here!
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All of my mango trees have EXPLODED in blooms, so many that if even a small percentage turn to fruit, I may take them to a farmer's market, get a straw hat and overalls to sell them :-)
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Finally seeing more fruit set here, add Ceci Love and Sweet Tart to the mix. Shaping up to be a great season =)
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Awesome updates! Our other two Pickerings and NDM#4 are pushing, but because of freeze and hurricane damage, I'm debating whether or not to let them hold fruit. In a recent Truly Tropical video, Har said flowering can occur anytime between November and May, so I'm still hoping our oldest seedling trees flower this year . . .
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I am seeing lots of male flowers and panicles that do not set a single fruit. It has been very humid in my area with no rain so I have anthracnose and powdery mildew. I expect my harvest to be low but better than last year's disaster.
Taralay just started flowering, O15 good set with anthracnose, buttercream a bit late but seems to be setting, val carrie just flowering, cushman crowded but appears to be setting at top, harvest moon crowded setting on top, sweet tart flowered late seems to be setting, Lemon Zest, ok set with powdery mildew, dot ok set with anthracnose, edward low set, pickering not flowering due to shade, angie flowered late, PPK flowered late, rapoza heavy set but severe anthracnose, venus heavy set severe anthracnose, peach cobbler ok set, orange sherbert good set, triple sec good set moderate anthracnose, m4 flowered late, cotton candy good set moderate anthracnose, super julie good set, phoenex poor set, juicy peach good set, pineapple pleasure poor set, pina colada poor set, glenn good set severe powdery mildew, NDM didn't bother to look.
Fruit punch gets the gold star
(https://i.postimg.cc/VSnKC6NS/Fruit-Punch.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSnKC6NS)
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Taralay just started flowering, O15 good set with anthracnose, buttercream a bit late but seems to be setting, val carrie just flowering, cushman crowded but appears to be setting at top, harvest moon crowded setting on top, sweet tart flowered late seems to be setting, Lemon Zest, ok set with powdery mildew, dot ok set with anthracnose, edward low set, pickering not flowering due to shade, angie flowered late, PPK flowered late, rapoza heavy set but severe anthracnose, venus heavy set severe anthracnose, peach cobbler ok set, orange sherbert good set, triple sec good set moderate anthracnose, m4 flowered late, cotton candy good set moderate anthracnose, super julie good set, phoenex poor set, juicy peach good set, pineapple pleasure poor set, pina colada poor set, glenn good set severe powdery mildew, NDM didn't bother to look.
Fruit punch gets the gold star
(https://i.postimg.cc/VSnKC6NS/Fruit-Punch.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VSnKC6NS)
Nice list, I'll do some of the similar for both of us.
Final fruit maturity may vary greatly as these are just chicks and they may not become chickens as time will tell.
0-15 below average set with anthracnose.
buttercream only flower stage now.
harvest moon some setting
sweet tart gets the gold star.... Very good fruit set.
lemon zest ok set with powdery mildew but too small to tell if or how many will remain.
dot some fruit set with powdery mildew
pickering pretty good fruit set with anthracnose
ppk a lot of small small possibilities with powdery mildew
rapoza heavy set with anthracnose
venus good set
peach cobbler some set
orange sherbert flowers still
m4 some set with some powdery mildew/anthracnose as plant is in a partially shady location now.
cotton candy some fruit set with powdery mildew/anthracnose as plant is in partial shade now.
super julie good set in sunshine, tree in partial shade is lower fruit set
phoenix poor set if any at all with powdery mildew so all may fall off before maturity as in previous years.
juicy peach in flower stage
pineapple pleasure cut back with zero set but grafted pickering on part is in bloom
pina colada flowering only with anthracnose & planted in wrong spot too near septic field probably.
Glenn as always good fruit set even with a lot of powdery mildew
NDM good fruit set
Fruit punch poor fruit set of tree partially shaded with significant anthracnose
fruit punch in sun good fruit set of smaller tree with low levels of anthracnose
It is funny but significant that many trees can hold fruit to maturity with heavy powdery mildew like Glen
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Awesome everyone! Fingers crossed this is going to be a great mango season for us all :)
My Cogshall is loaded with blooms, I actually have Maha on the left and a 45 gallon potted Glenn underneath and Cogshall all growing together Lol... on that Oak island. The Maha (far left) is just starting to bloom so it's hard to see blooms on the picture.
Maha, black potted Glenn and Cogshall growing together
(https://i.postimg.cc/18sz9gPK/IMG-7990.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/18sz9gPK)
My Glenn taken at dusk as the sun was setting, making the leaves and blooms orangy bronzy color...
(https://i.postimg.cc/JyHvvqgY/IMG-7991.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JyHvvqgY)
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My Lemon Zest at dusk glowing with powdery mildew ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/TLK9WG1v/20230215-190450.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLK9WG1v)
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Full bloom:
CAC,
LZ (OS, Dupuis and Peach Cobbler on same tree with full bloom)
NDM (Buxton Spice, Pickering, Mapulehu, Little Gem, Maha on same tree with full bloom)
Glenn (Peach cobbler and Guava on same tree with full bloom)
Edward
Zinc/Edgar
Sugar Loaf/Phoenix
Fruit Punch
Cogshall
Venus
Manilita (Pickering and 40-26 on same tree with full bloom)
Neelam/Honey kiss
Angie
Seedling (Thai ever bearing and Z-0 is on same tree with full bloom)
Partial bloom
Taralay (Though the buttercream branch is full)
OS (2 years in ground)
Kiett (Cotton Candy and M-4 is on this as well with same sparse bloom, produced a lot last year.)
Should be a good year for me ia
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My Lemon Zest at dusk glowing with powdery mildew ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/TLK9WG1v/20230215-190450.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLK9WG1v)
Lol ;D...that is a great looking Lemon Zest and look at all those blooms, just beautiful! Hopefully, you will still tons of mango :D
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My Lemon Zest at dusk glowing with powdery mildew ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/TLK9WG1v/20230215-190450.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLK9WG1v)
Lol ;D...that is a great looking Lemon Zest and look at all those blooms, just beautiful! Hopefully, you will still tons of mango :D
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Beauteous! Your tree looks great to me. Does pm have an orange color to it? I thought it was grayish. The color of your blooms looks similar to what I'm seeing all around, wondering if pm is all around too, lol
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My Lemon Zest at dusk glowing with powdery mildew ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/TLK9WG1v/20230215-190450.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TLK9WG1v)
Lol ;D...that is a great looking Lemon Zest and look at all those blooms, just beautiful! Hopefully, you will still tons of mango :D
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Beauteous! Your tree looks great to me. Does pm have an orange color to it? I thought it was grayish. The color of your blooms looks similar to what I'm seeing all around, wondering if pm is all around too, lol
Ha ha, it's similar from distance and was noticeable closer, hopefully not a lot of PM around. Lemon Zest had lots PM this year. As usual, didn't spray, but maybe next year. I will up date with a more current photo (original was 2-15)
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Here some photos:
(https://i.postimg.cc/XXHpZP90/20230302-092543.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXHpZP90)
(https://i.postimg.cc/sBdJkx2K/20230303-112648.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sBdJkx2K)
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Nice!
Finding more fruit set on Sugar Loaf. Even most of the lower branches/panicles that get hammered by the sprinkler have decent fruit set.
Sadly, not seeing much fruit set on Guava aka Sein Ta Lone. At least there are a few already, will guard them well.
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Nice!
Finding more fruit set on Sugar Loaf. Even most of the lower branches/panicles that get hammered by the sprinkler have decent fruit set.
Sadly, not seeing much fruit set on Guava aka Sein Ta Lone. At least there are a few already, will guard them well.
Looks like I'll have a few guava, if I ever get down there I'll trade you for ceci love
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(https://i.postimg.cc/t1qx02Jg/IMG-20230302-173221365-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/t1qx02Jg)
Pickerings coming along
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All my Sugarloaf fruitlets seem to have black spots on them -- guessing that's not good
(https://i.postimg.cc/QFsm6LL9/IMG-20230303-172618898-HDR-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QFsm6LL9)
(https://i.postimg.cc/N5Rb7snv/IMG-20230303-172942430-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5Rb7snv)
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Nice!
Finding more fruit set on Sugar Loaf. Even most of the lower branches/panicles that get hammered by the sprinkler have decent fruit set.
Sadly, not seeing much fruit set on Guava aka Sein Ta Lone. At least there are a few already, will guard them well.
Looks like I'll have a few guava, if I ever get down there I'll trade you for ceci love
2 of my fav mangoes! Excited to see what these trees and branches do
Get down here, happy to share whatever we have =)
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I think it's going to be a banner season. I have a potted up pickering that has a lot of fruit set and a young Irwin that's taking the season off to grow more roots (I recently transplanted it into a 29 gallon pot). Woohoo!
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A few pictures from my Glenn. I've got a few hundred starter fruits among all the pannicles.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Thpb1xTp/20230306-170657.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Thpb1xTp)
(https://i.postimg.cc/w3ytHkkN/20230306-170704.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3ytHkkN)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d7N1c7kn/20230306-170710.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7N1c7kn)
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A few pictures from my Glenn. I've got a few hundred starter fruits among all the pannicles.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Thpb1xTp/20230306-170657.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Thpb1xTp)
(https://i.postimg.cc/w3ytHkkN/20230306-170704.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3ytHkkN)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d7N1c7kn/20230306-170710.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7N1c7kn)
Unless that tree is just 3 feet high, you probably have thousands of starter fruits, lol. =)
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A few pictures from my Glenn. I've got a few hundred starter fruits among all the pannicles.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Thpb1xTp/20230306-170657.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Thpb1xTp)
(https://i.postimg.cc/w3ytHkkN/20230306-170704.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3ytHkkN)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d7N1c7kn/20230306-170710.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7N1c7kn)
Great looking Glenn!
I do have a question about my Glenn if anyone can answer. See below. My tree is 7' tall and about 4' wide and all of the growth is at the 6' level. Lots of panicles right now and some tiny fruitlets like those above. The tree is about 3-4 years old, How many fruits should I allow to grow to maturity on this tree?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52696835645_293213babd_z.jpg)
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I'm no expert but I think it depends more on how long it's been planted if it's 3-4 years old. Has it been in the ground all 3-4 years? Or was it recently planted?
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Been in the ground 2 years.
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Great pics everyone!
My Maha seems quite prolific this year, though I know I will most likely lose 98% of these baby fruitlets its still pretty impressive to see so many in one panicle :D
(https://i.postimg.cc/Kk8kDr0X/IMG-8002.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Kk8kDr0X)
(https://i.postimg.cc/fts4GB6F/IMG-8004.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fts4GB6F)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Xr6gcmFT/IMG-8005.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xr6gcmFT)
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Been in the ground 2 years.
I think the tree will decide on it's own how many fruit it can handle. It will simply drop the ones it can't support. If you've had it in the ground 2 years, I say let it happen on its own.
Again, I'm no expert. Lots of people on this forum know way more than I do.
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A few pictures from my Glenn. I've got a few hundred starter fruits among all the pannicles.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Thpb1xTp/20230306-170657.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Thpb1xTp)
(https://i.postimg.cc/w3ytHkkN/20230306-170704.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3ytHkkN)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d7N1c7kn/20230306-170710.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7N1c7kn)
Great looking Glenn!
I do have a question about my Glenn if anyone can answer. See below. My tree is 7' tall and about 4' wide and all of the growth is at the 6' level. Lots of panicles right now and some tiny fruitlets like those above. The tree is about 3-4 years old, How many fruits should I allow to grow to maturity on this tree?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52696835645_293213babd_z.jpg)
So it depends on your intention for the tree:
If you take off the fruit this year the tree will have a chance to put on as much growth as it wants, this is good if you want a larger tree.
If you let the tree set a few fruits this year the tree won't grow much, this might be good if you are trying to go for a smaller tree.
This is similar to Mangomen Homestead's philosophy. Might be a little tricky to get right
I would just be wary of letting it hold too much fruit to maturity, it could very well fruit itself to a sickly tree and/or stop producing fruit for a few years
I personally like having trees I can walk under so I would wait for another year or 2.
From the picture, the amount of foliage looks close to a good size 3g planted out after a year or two. So if i really wanted fruit I'd let it hold maybe 5.
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Orange Sherbet finally woke up from its winter hibernation
(https://i.postimg.cc/KkMdFNBh/IMG-E6823.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KkMdFNBh)
1 1/2 ft tall Nam Doc Mai #4 trying to produce again.. too early bud!
(https://i.postimg.cc/947hFCHk/IMG-E6826.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/947hFCHk)
and Maha has tiny fruits... I'll probably keep 1-2 healthiest ones for this year - if they hold
(https://i.postimg.cc/0MkcX0nC/IMG-E6825.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MkcX0nC)
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Found two ripe Carries today and ate one of them.
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Was just dreaming of ripened mangoes, and wondering who has some already. Super jealous!
Blowing up these Ceci Love fruit pics only increases my anticipation:
(https://i.postimg.cc/mhcHf0T8/CLfr323a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mhcHf0T8)
(https://i.postimg.cc/mts2Xqkc/CLfrb323.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mts2Xqkc)
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Found two ripe Carries today and ate one of them.
.... and???
Was it delicious??
Considering you hadnt seen rain in weeks I am assuming it was, but you have to tell.
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Found two ripe Carries today and ate one of them.
.... and???
Was it delicious??
Considering you hadnt seen rain in weeks I am assuming it was, but you have to tell.
Yes, way better than I was expecting for a March Carrie.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ThCGNfv6/41-FA4-FF1-FA25-4917-92-A7-D9915-BEFE9-F9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ThCGNfv6)
A good flavor change up from the Rosigolds and Edwards which have both been really good as well.
Also found a ripe O-15 today and have some Rosas and Dwarf Hawaiian that are pretty close.
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Was just dreaming of ripened mangoes, and wondering who has some already. Super jealous!
Blowing up these Ceci Love fruit pics only increases my anticipation:
(https://i.postimg.cc/mhcHf0T8/CLfr323a.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mhcHf0T8)
(https://i.postimg.cc/mts2Xqkc/CLfrb323.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mts2Xqkc)
Jaboticaba45 would like Cecilove scions.
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Thanks Tonycc for selling me on the virtues of Litte Gem and thanks to Truly Tropical Chris for selling me very awesome sized tree a few years back
(https://i.postimg.cc/7JxYjBSv/20230315-215752.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/7JxYjBSv)
Yes South Florida my mangoes are poquito compared to yours. Better late than never LOL :)
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Nice fruit set Bov!
My Lil Gem cracks me up; tree is only 13.5 inches, and the inflorescence alone is 14.5 inches. Lil mangoes on it too. LOL!
(https://i.postimg.cc/qNB1WKQ2/Lil-Gem323.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qNB1WKQ2)
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I have a decent fruit set on my potted Pickering. My little Venus from Lara Farms has exactly two set fruit on it that I'll probably prune off in another few weeks because it's far too little to fruit. Nothing on my Irwin but it needs more time as it's just maybe two years old now but I just up-potted it and my other seedling mangos are way too young. But, you know... Pickering is a great mango and it's nice to see the Venus is vigorous. :)
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Here's my report from SW Broward County:
Mature Trees:
Julie - Best fruit set since living here, but tree was in bad shape when we moved in. Looks like anthracnose will take out almost all the fruit. I didn't spray it before or after blooming.
Phillipine - Amazing fruit set, it's alternate bearing in my yard, but the amount of mangos it produces in the "fruiting" year makes it totally worth it.
Kent - Sets and fruits a very good amount every year, reliably. Has a lot of fruit set this year. Maybe more than last year.
Younger Trees:
Ice Cream - Had a full bloom and some fruit set, but I think PM set in at the last minute and now only 2 fruitlets hanging on. Didn't get around to spraying it. Tree has been in the ground from a 3g in 2019/2020.
Carrie - full bloom, about 30ish fruits hanging on. Tree planted 2 years ago from a 3g.
Orange Sherbert - No bloom, but did bloom back in 2021 and set fruit, but I had planted it from a 3g that year and took off the panicles. Did not bloom last year.
Sweet Tart - No bloom, planted it from a 3g in 2021. Did not bloom last year, but had 3 little fruits I cut off when it bloomed in 2021.
Pickering - Planted it from a 3g in 2021. Set fruit last year, but cut the panicles so it could grow. Has a lot of setting fruit for being so small.
Sugarloaf - Planted it from a 7g in 2021. Has been blooming and setting fruit every year I have had it, but it took a hard trimming last year for shaping purposes, so not all the branches have bloomed, but there is a decent amount of fruit set on the flower panicles. This is the first year I will let it carry fruit.
Seacrest/Triplesec - No blooming this year or last year. Planted from a 3g in 2021.
M4 - Planted from a 3g in 2021. Full bloom and lots of setting fruit--very excited about this one!
Honey Kiss - Tiny, very slow-growing tree. Planted from 3g in 2021. Bloomed and has about 15ish fruit hanging on right now.
I trimmed trees pretty hard last year to encourage more branching, so it's possible that OS and ST didn't like that, though I think I trimmed before August (I can't remember for sure). I think Seacreast wants to be a huge tree and will take some maturity to bloom.
This year I will be planting: Lemon Zest, Fairchild, Saigon, Cecilove, Imam Passand, and Zill 40-26 and am excited about these varieties. :)
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Good to get detailed info like that sumognat. You should have a nice summer.
Happy to have found some guava and at least 1 m4 still holding. Trees are young and plenty to back them up, but really want these to start pumping out primo mangoes.
Anyone seeing flowers/frutis on m. casturi? Mine has been just sitting there for 2 years now. Not even the extended dry period (drought?) here in South Florida has triggered flowering this year. Gonna put a tv near it playing The Bachelor nonstop to see if that stresses it into flowering. Something has to work, or the axe.
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Update:
Sugarloaf/Zill E-4 : 8 by 7 foot tree with 3 inch across trunk girth. planted October 2019, ..set 11 fruits that are grape size. I would expect a few to fall off for sure. Set fruit through mild powdery mildew.
Baileys marvel: planted august 2019: 12x10 foot tree with 6 inch across trunk girth- set over 150 fruits up to grape size. Set through mild powdery mildew also. Of course I expect the tree to drop quite a few but very happy with the promising fruit-set.
Other trees I have removed fruit from , too small: baby Pickering set 8 fruit even though only 3x3 foot.
Pineapple pleasure: planted last summer I tip pruned throughout year so just pushed leaves. Next year could be its year if good rainy season growth and no nutritional/disease issues.
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It looks like Truly Tropical/The Mango Place in Delray Beach is going to have a great mango season, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1I-KjkG5aE
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Anyone have a forecast from what they're seeing now as to the peak of the season this year? I am considering a trip out to FL again, was a blast last year but was at the tail end. Don't want to miss it this year if it's truly as epic as y'all are saying.
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Mango harvest season in Sebring, FL
(https://i.postimg.cc/wyF4XQy0/20230323-135308.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wyF4XQy0)
The Rosigold was blooming after the first cold spell in late November. I picked the first ones about a week ago. No Blooms on Maha, Sweet Tart, Glen, Son Pari, Yehangar and Venus. Pickering, Sugar Loaf and Angie are doing particularly well.
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Congrats Yoski! I live in the area but have no early variety mango tree. Enjoy them!
They look delicious!
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Mango harvest season in Sebring, FL
(https://i.postimg.cc/wyF4XQy0/20230323-135308.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/wyF4XQy0)
The Rosigold was blooming after the first cold spell in late November. I picked the first ones about a week ago. No Blooms on Maha, Sweet Tart, Glen, Son Pari, Yehangar and Venus. Pickering, Sugar Loaf and Angie are doing particularly well.
Nice!!!
Still go a few months to go for me
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Sugarloaf coming along:
(https://i.postimg.cc/QVR7g3XS/IMG-20230325-080111889-HDR-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QVR7g3XS)
Coconut Cream seedling fruitlets:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Cz7FhG6D/IMG-20230327-084743517-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cz7FhG6D)
Was hoping other seedling trees would push some blooms, but guess I have to give up on that this season.
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Anyone have a forecast from what they're seeing now as to the peak of the season this year? I am considering a trip out to FL again, was a blast last year but was at the tail end. Don't want to miss it this year if it's truly as epic as y'all are saying.
Mid-June in West Palm Beach.
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Sugarloaf coming along:
(https://i.postimg.cc/QVR7g3XS/IMG-20230325-080111889-HDR-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QVR7g3XS)
Coconut Cream seedling fruitlets:
(https://i.postimg.cc/Cz7FhG6D/IMG-20230327-084743517-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Cz7FhG6D)
Was hoping other seedling trees would push some blooms, but guess I have to give up on that this season.
Your Sugarloaf is loaded (for SL standards)! Congratulations! How old is your tree?
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(https://i.postimg.cc/JtmZHqCw/IMG-7324.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JtmZHqCw)
Sophie Frey grafted onto East Indian
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MangoMaven888, it was planted as a small 3gal April 7, 2019. It grew rapidly and first fruited in 2021--I removed most of the fruitlets, but missed a couple. My timing on picking them sucked, so I hope to do better this year. Last year the tree bloomed but the freeze ended that and set the tree back quite a bit. It bounced back rapidly and lost a couple limbs in Hurricane Ian, but this is where it is today. I doubt it'll hold on to all, but still hoping for a good amount to make it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/D8DPwXtx/IMG-20230329-171343494-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8DPwXtx)
bovine421, how old is that graft? Looking forward to a taste report!
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MangoMaven888, it was planted as a small 3gal April 7, 2019. It grew rapidly and first fruited in 2021--I removed most of the fruitlets, but missed a couple. My timing on picking them sucked, so I hope to do better this year. Last year the tree bloomed but the freeze ended that and set the tree back quite a bit. It bounced back rapidly and lost a couple limbs in Hurricane Ian, but this is where it is today. I doubt it'll hold on to all, but still hoping for a good amount to make it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/D8DPwXtx/IMG-20230329-171343494-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8DPwXtx)
bovine421, how old is that graft? Looking forward to a taste report!
That's awesome! I know Alex mentioned SL will grow out of the disproportionate male to female flower ratio as the tree ages. It's sounding like 4 years might be the lucky number to start rounding 3rd base..based off 1 sample size haha!
I have a 3 gallon, planted in June 2020 and this is the first year it's large enough to hold fruit. Flowered enthusiastically (but mostly male flowers), and expecting only about 14 mangos on a 7' - 8' tree. Hoping next year will be loaded like yours..or I may just have to plant more of them haha!
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Great pics and updates everyone! Still looking like a nice season.
Planted our 3 gal Sugar Loaf 4/2019. It held a few fruit last year, but critters beat me to them.
She's holding more this year:
(https://i.postimg.cc/G821kTp1/Sugar-Loaf32923.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G821kTp1)
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MangoMaven888, it was planted as a small 3gal April 7, 2019. It grew rapidly and first fruited in 2021--I removed most of the fruitlets, but missed a couple. My timing on picking them sucked, so I hope to do better this year. Last year the tree bloomed but the freeze ended that and set the tree back quite a bit. It bounced back rapidly and lost a couple limbs in Hurricane Ian, but this is where it is today. I doubt it'll hold on to all, but still hoping for a good amount to make it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/D8DPwXtx/IMG-20230329-171343494-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8DPwXtx)
bovine421, how old is that graft? Looking forward to a taste report!
That's awesome! I know Alex mentioned SL will grow out of the disproportionate male to female flower ratio as the tree ages. It's sounding like 4 years might be the lucky number to start rounding 3rd base..based off 1 sample size haha!
I have a 3 gallon, planted in June 2020 and this is the first year it's large enough to hold fruit. Flowered enthusiastically (but mostly male flowers), and expecting only about 14 mangos on a 7' - 8' tree. Hoping next year will be loaded like yours..or I may just have to plant more of them haha!
I also planted one 2019 it’s about 8 foot by 6 foot tree now and set about 14 fruit and holding 9 at the moment. I think you’re “plant more of them”
Idea is actually a good one and if you get one that is more productive you can always top work or eliminate the others…thinking about planting another one myself. Maybe a seedling that I sprouted to see if the male flower thing isn’t as much of a problem as it is on my tree (it’s MAJORLY male flowers every year). ButAlex said the trees may grow out of that trait as they get bigger and older…
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My good friend's PPK tree is loaded. So is her Keitt tree if the fruit stays healthy, resisting MBBS.
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Looking to be a very good mango season!
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Almost sugarloaf time BABYYYY
(https://i.postimg.cc/0r944M9w/IMG-1665.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0r944M9w)
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I have a E4 similar size but only 1 left after the wind, fungus, & normal drops. The 1 is about the size of yours.
However, 2 panicles bloomed and about 4 miniature bb size fruits are on it so maybe a late season possibility also on the reblooms.
Carrie trees have many many reblooms.
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Florida. 2023. Mango season. I’m back.
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Glenns are just starting to ripen, and then here comes all the rain.
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Florida. 2023. Mango season. I’m back.
Awesome!
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Glenns are just starting to ripen, and then here comes all the rain.
Same. Should get my first fruits this weekend. Hoping the rain didn't wash out the flavor. Then again, I mostly love Glenns just for the smell.
On another note, finally got a good crop on my Coconut Cream. Such a shy bearer for me.
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Peachy Glenns have begun.
...and lots of variety as well. Good to know people
(https://i.postimg.cc/ppFhc6fK/mangobox523.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ppFhc6fK)
(https://i.postimg.cc/xXGknNFC/mangoboxb523.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXGknNFC)
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Love when you can pick a big cluster like that. Was able to do that with gouveia this week. This weeks pick were pretty nice.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0KwwRWwM/IMG-0152.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0KwwRWwM)
(https://i.postimg.cc/s1kW9rkp/IMG-0163.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/s1kW9rkp)
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Peachy Glenns have begun.
...and lots of variety as well. Good to know people
Thanks... Motivated me to go check the Glens outside.
Found 5 ripe Glen and 2 Florigon today.
The daily mango checking has begun here.
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Same here, been getting some cogshalls and other random earlier stuff.
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A bunch of Glenns on the verge. Everything else a ways to go.
This tree is in the neighborhood. What might it be?
(https://i.postimg.cc/w1G0G1Kb/Purple-Alfredo-Mangoes523.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1G0G1Kb)
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My guess = Unripe Rapoza mangos.
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Look like could be an “Irwin “ just my guess
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Pickering, 2 years in ground first fruiting
(https://i.postimg.cc/TyphLCdB/IMG-20230523-071209930.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyphLCdB)
Sweet tart, 3 years in ground first fruiting. Only 1/4 of the tree bloomed.
(https://i.postimg.cc/G917QfWP/IMG-20230523-071157630.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G917QfWP)
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mmmmm, sweet tarts
What does Rapoza taste like? These are classic flavor, with some fiber.
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Those do not look like my rapozas, too purple and shape is different. My guess is sensation. Rapozas are ok-to-good classic mango. They do not fruit well at my house. Anthracnose resistance seems overrated based on my experience. I am topworking my rapoza to buttercream.
mmmmm, sweet tarts
What does Rapoza taste like? These are classic flavor, with some fiber.
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Those do not look like my rapozas, too purple and shape is different. My guess is sensation. Rapozas are ok-to-good classic mango. They do not fruit well at my house. Anthracnose resistance seems overrated based on my experience. I am topworking my rapoza to buttercream.
mmmmm, sweet tarts
What does Rapoza taste like? These are classic flavor, with some fiber.
You are the 2nd person to say Sensation. Think that is it. Thank you
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I agree. If it's an old neighborhood tree it's probably not a Rapoza; since it would not have been a common mango to find in Florida. The ones I've had get larger than that and don't recall any fiber.
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I eagerly await sales of boxes of these beauties.
In Vegas, we get nothing but stores selling boxes of fibrous, flavorless (edit - Keitt) monstrosities.
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I eagerly await sales of boxes of these beauties.
In Vegas, we get nothing but stores selling boxes of fibrous, flavorless Kent monstrosities.
Really? Are you sure they're Kent? Kent is the original fiberless mango.
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So far, best mangoes have been Sunrise, Mempalam (wild mango), Carioca, and Wango 7.
W7 is nuts! Sweet, sour, spicy/piney, and something else. Think it has what others call a durian-like flavor, but I've never had durian. Just know it's good.
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Orange Sherbet finally woke up from its winter hibernation
(https://i.postimg.cc/KkMdFNBh/IMG-E6823.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/KkMdFNBh)
1 1/2 ft tall Nam Doc Mai #4 trying to produce again.. too early bud!
(https://i.postimg.cc/947hFCHk/IMG-E6826.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/947hFCHk)
How long has your Orange Sherbet and Nam Doc Mai #4 been planted in the ground?
and Maha has tiny fruits... I'll probably keep 1-2 healthiest ones for this year - if they hold
(https://i.postimg.cc/0MkcX0nC/IMG-E6825.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0MkcX0nC)
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Maha.. waiting impatiently
(https://i.postimg.cc/CZ9hM01Y/IMG-E6944.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CZ9hM01Y)
@Greater Good: The NDM has been in ground for almost 1 year, and the OS about 7 months.
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I eagerly await sales of boxes of these beauties.
In Vegas, we get nothing but stores selling boxes of fibrous, flavorless Kent monstrosities.
Really? Are you sure they're Kent? Kent is the original fiberless mango.
Brain fart. Keitt, not Kent.
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I eagerly await sales of boxes of these beauties.
In Vegas, we get nothing but stores selling boxes of fibrous, flavorless Kent monstrosities.
Really? Are you sure they're Kent? Kent is the original fiberless mango.
Brain fart. Keitt, not Kent.
lol..... Too funny...
But, let me help you out as both keitt and kent have little fiber and I enjoy both when home grown but they are often with little taste in the supermarket due to shipping/when picked/etc. etc. etc.
Perhaps Tommy Atkins as also in supermarkets and are known to have more fiber which makes them firmer and lowers bruising/smashing during shipping
https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/product-page/tommy-atkins
Also look over the other varieties at Alex's site.
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I eagerly await sales of boxes of these beauties.
In Vegas, we get nothing but stores selling boxes of fibrous, flavorless Kent monstrosities.
Really? Are you sure they're Kent? Kent is the original fiberless mango.
Brain fart. Keitt, not Kent.
lol..... Too funny...
But, let me help you out as both keitt and kent have little fiber and I enjoy both when home grown but they are often with little taste in the supermarket due to shipping/when picked/etc. etc. etc.
Perhaps Tommy Atkins as also in supermarkets and are known to have more fiber which makes them firmer and lowers bruising/smashing during shipping
https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/product-page/tommy-atkins (https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/product-page/tommy-atkins)
Also look over the other varieties at Alex's site.
Yeah, very likely Tommys. I've seen a mix of Kent/Keitt/Tommys running though Publix & Trader Joe's since late February. Kents have been really small, but one or two were almost pleasant to eat. The bigger Tommys I don't give another look and all the Keitts have smelled like surgical equipment, notebook paper smells more appealing than them. I've also seen the Atalufo/Champaigne/Honey mangoes coming through a lot earlier than usual. Couldn't help but pull the trigger on a few of those, but they were all tart & bland (even when I let them sit until golden yellow).
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Coconut Cream Seedling:
(https://i.postimg.cc/751ZXXGL/IMG-20230527-074819213-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/751ZXXGL)
Sugarloaf:
(https://i.postimg.cc/WDXbc37L/IMG-20230527-074609899-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WDXbc37L)
Pickering:
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That last mango is beautiful! And what a load of Sugar Loafs on that little tree. My tree is about double that size, and only holding 10 - 12 fruit. Nice!
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Thanks, roblack! The little Sugarloaf would be bigger were it not for freezes and a hurricane, though I do feel I found just the right spot in the yard for it to thrive. It's a 2019 3gal planting, so I'm comfortable letting it do its thing. Did you plant the Wango 7 seeds?
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Great pics everybody!! Thanks for sharing.
No ripe mangoes here yet, maybe at least a week or two. It's normal for me...I normally don't get ripe mangoes till mid June so at best I might be a week early from years past...I've been picking up a few of "dropped" mangoes and wrapping them up in newspaper to see if it will ripen? I give it 10 days max and if it doesn't ripen by then then I throw them away.
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Yes, I saved Wango seeds; mempalam too.
Wango 023 - 2 is real interesting. Pretty big mango (largest Mango I've seen), roundish. Lots of flavor, floral and citrusy. Very good.
Finally tried Sugar Loaf last night. Amazing. A little overripe, and still wonderful. Sweet and rich, complex, coconutty. One of the best.
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Update on neighbor's tree
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The purplish fruits have redenned up. He says he talked to the original planter, who said it is Tommy Atkins. Think that is actually it. It's quite good, and worth eating. Perfect for mango salsas and good eating off the plate, although not as firm and clean when cut up. I like it way better than the store bought TA.
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...and anyone who hasn't tried Chino needs to check it out! Alex sent me some, they are really nice. Big, firm flesh, bright flavors, sweet with mild acid, some citrus floral something. Different and very refreshing. Went back and forth between a Chino and E4 last night when everyone else was asleep. Went to bed smiling.
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Nam Doc Mai #4 trying again. Lost the first two rounds of blooms to Powdery Mildew.
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Nam Doc Mai #4 trying again. Lost the first two rounds of blooms to Powdery Mildew.
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Mango bloom in June? Fruit won't be ripe until Christmas!
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That'd be awesome to have fruit that late! It's been hit hard by PM on its earlier blooms, though, and I've done nothing to combat it, so I'm doubtful it'll hold on to anything.
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Flip, another chance to spray something. For a few panicles, zep bottle with sulfur water ain't that hard.
Cogshall- had my 2nd ever & this one i waited till i smelled mango passing by counter.
Much better, sweet enough, ate half with skin. Still needed water afterwards cause it felt & tasted like i ate alot of pepper. Is pepper taste normal?
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Flip, another chance to spray something. For a few panicles, zep bottle with sulfur water ain't that hard.
Cogshall- had my 2nd ever & this one i waited till i smelled mango passing by counter.
Much better, sweet enough, ate half with skin. Still needed water afterwards cause it felt & tasted like i ate alot of pepper. Is pepper taste normal?
Not to my palate... Cogshall is one of my favorites.
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I know what you mean, cogshalls skin is particularly pungent
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Interesting, I have never eaten the skin.
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Interesting, I have never eaten the skin.
I haven't intentionally. Sometimes when I'm peeling the fruit a few bits of skin are left. Or you don't remove enough.
Pretty easy to do on the softer fruits
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Just had my first Pickering of the season. What a great fruit. Creamy texture with nice coconut undertones. Off to a great start!
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Cutting and eating my first home-grown Sugarloaf now!
Consensus from me and the wife : excellent, but overripe. Picked when was yellow in one spot. Uneven ripening as always but really good and coconutty. The over-ripe by a day thing shorted us on the pineapple flavor and I missed alexs instructions on when to cut it. Great mango I’ll let y’all know how the rest of them are.
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Cutting and eating my first home-grown Sugarloaf now!
Consensus from me and the wife : excellent, but overripe. Picked when was yellow in one spot. Uneven ripening as always but really good and coconutty. The over-ripe by a day thing shorted us on the pineapple flavor and I missed alexs instructions on when to cut it. Great mango I’ll let y’all know how the rest of them are.
I have 1 large similar so it is probably ready by how it looks compared to yours. (2 late bloom fruit are at the top but half dollar size only). It looks like the ripen from the inside and bottom by your cut open E4. So should I check the bottom for softness of just pick and eat when lenticels look whiteish or something else?
Galations, I eat the peeling on Florigon, ripe sweet tarts (none yet), Carrie, okrung, and a few others.
In the past my Pickering was a slow grower and the fruit so so with a lot of fungus on everything. This year 2 pickering have tasted very good with coconut hints as many have previously described over the years. I am assuming the tree being larger has helped it with it's current flavor change but unsure except it is good tasting now vs. the past 6 yrs IMO. *** So this is a reversal on my opinion of Pickering***
IMO the older the tree, the better tasting the fruit in most all cases for the variety eaten.
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Cutting and eating my first home-grown Sugarloaf now!
Consensus from me and the wife : excellent, but overripe. Picked when was yellow in one spot. Uneven ripening as always but really good and coconutty. The over-ripe by a day thing shorted us on the pineapple flavor and I missed alexs instructions on when to cut it. Great mango I’ll let y’all know how the rest of them are.
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Congrats on your first Sugar Loaf! Hopefully, you get lots of practice in picking them, refining your selection skills to the utmost.
On that note, what does Alex recommend? I've got one that has been looking almost ready.
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Been harvesting/eating fairchild, ah ping, momi k, mapalehu, julie, pirie and some others
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Nice!
Lots of Glenns and 1 Sugar Loaf is all that has ripened in our yard so far. Waiting on Sweet Tart, Ceci Love, Kesar, OSh, Edward, and more Glenns and SL's.
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SUGARLOAF MEMO:
DONT WAIT UNTIL THEY GET BRIGHT YELLOW SPOT. If you do, that Bright yellow spot will be almost spoiled and already way over ripe. Instead, pick them when they have high shoulder, brown stem, black sap lines running down fruit and/or look full size and lots of “freckles” and very slight yellow tint near stem. They ripen far better when picked at that stage so far in my opinion. Takes 7-10 days in garage but solid quality as opposed to over ripening on tree.
I picked three more today that had dried up stems. Will update after tasting. Happy eating y’all.
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Got these out of a pickleball players backpack as he was distracted playing a rubber band match :🙂
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Carrie and maybe Glenn
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My first ripe fruit Dwarf Hawaiian
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Today's pick
from top to bottom
Glenn
Pickering
Florigon
2 Alphonso and 1 Mallika
I picked the Alphonso at a friends and as I was driving down the road
there was an aroma that filled the car. WOW! I can't wait to eat them
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:) The Carrie Twins :)
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:) The Carrie Twins :)
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Looks like Carrie's bum bum to me LOL
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This is the second season of fruiting. The first was good but this season is excellent.
Dwarf Hawaiian is so rich and creamy. This is 9 B's early season
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Today's pick
from top to bottom
Glenn
Pickering
Florigon
2 Alphonso and 1 Mallika
I picked the Alphonso at a friends and as I was driving down the road
there was an aroma that filled the car. WOW! I can't wait to eat them
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How do you like the Glenn compared to the others in that list? Our local nursery is getting a new shipment of plants this week and I've been trying to decide between picking up a Glenn or Kent to add to our mango collection.
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I have had many so far this year but the tops for me has been Bombay.
They are not the prettiest mango (green cast and full of blotchy spots) but man are they tasty.
Love the resinous piney taste.
Some mango are tasting like they are getting washed out by the almost daily showers lately
I have a Lancetilla on mu desk that dropped but being that this is a late season variety I don't expect it to be great...it is coloring up though
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Guavas have ripened.
I would go with Glenn over Kent, Bahama Dan. While I have many mangoes that are better tasting, Glenn is a good mango that almost everyone likes. Peachy too. Good producer, my most reliable and productive tree. Wouldn't dream of giving up Glenn.
Kent is a decent late season mango, but more disease prone.
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I have both Glenn and Keitt. Their fruit ripens at totally different times. Keitt is extreme late season, Glenn is early season. In my experience, Glenn is also disease prone-right now my tree only produced a few fruit this year due to powdery mildew. Overall I really love the taste of tree ripened Glenn. I would say Glenn is better than Keitt overall, though Keitt is very good.
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Glenn and/or Edward are solid early-mid season mangoes. You can find better late season mangoes than Kent. M4, Lil Gem... some newer ones I do not recall at the moment
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oh sorry I mixed of up Keitt and Kent. I think Glenn is definitely better than Kent.
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This year the glenn have been real good or real bland. I've never seen
such a contrast. Another good one I have been eating is Florigon.
Early clean fruit it reminds me of sweet tart but a little less intense.
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This year the glenn have been real good or real bland. I've never seen
such a contrast.
Now that my Glen have been producing over 6 years, most of these trees only produce sweet fruit from the beginning of the season. A few may be less intense for first week of bearing fruit.
Years ago before mature trees, the fruit was bland sometimes for a few weeks.
This year sweet intense peachy flavor for approximately 99% of the fruit of Glen.
I tend to get a similar effect with other varieties not being as intense flavored the first week of that tree bearing fruit. If the tree is young, a much higher percent chance of diminished flavor especially first week. However, many older trees have good fruit flavor from the beginning of fruit harvesting.
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Love my Glenn also, it's my favorite mango in my yard. Mine have been excellent this year, most likely because we haven't had much rain, NO rain at all for the month of June so I think it has helped from making them bland from too much rain. We had more rain in May which is not normal, usually we don't get much rain here till June and July. Middle of June and 0 inches so far :'(
I love my Keitt also because usually by the time they are ready all my Cogshall, Maha and Glenns are gone so it's nice to have a late variety mango. Cogshalls have been excellent also this year....still waiting to taste my Maha they are about a week or so before ripening. I love the flavor and texture of Maha and they are very fragrant when they are ripe. It's the most fragrant mango I have.
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Love my Glenn also, it's my favorite mango in my yard. Mine have been excellent this year, most likely because we haven't had much rain, NO rain at all for the month of June so I think it has helped from making them bland from too much rain. We had more rain in May which is not normal, usually we don't get much rain here till June and July. Middle of June and 0 inches so far :'(
Does the rain impact the flavor of the Glenn only while the tree is blooming and producing fruit? Or would a wet Autumn cause fruit to be bland?
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Rain when fruits are maturing, prior to ripening, can cause the flavor to be washed out.
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Rain when fruits are maturing, prior to ripening, can cause the flavor to be washed out.
I agree with Roblack, that has been my experience with my mangoes. A lot of rain in past years has also caused several of them to split, I haven't had a single one split this year. I love rain and we do need it very badly but too much of it can cause some issues with some mature mangoes/fruits
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Thanks for the feedback fellas. Of course nothing can be done about the rain but at least I'll know what happened if my Glenn's and Maha's taste funky. :'(
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Inconsistent rainfall/watering leads to splitting in prone varieties. Too little, then too much. Irrigation during dry spells helps lessen splitting. Hard to do anything about too much rain.
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The rainy season kicked in a couple of months early this year. Some of the mangoes have been slightly lower in brix. Fortunately MBBS hasn't been a problem.
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The rainy season kicked in a couple of months early this year. Some of the mangoes have been slightly lower in brix. Fortunately MBBS hasn't been a problem.
Does that mean that MBBS is less virulent in rainy weather? Or do you attribute it to something else?
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Not sure, but think MBBS is fueled by high humidity, and Cookie was remarking upon it being remarkable that there was no bad issue with MBBS, with all the rain we've had.
Update. In another thread I reported on a Bolt vs LZ battle, in which Bolt won.
Latest battle was Bolt vs. Ceci Love...
CL took Bolt to the mat. Brighter and more flavorful mango. Of course, many would say more samplings and battles must be fought. But from past years, CL has been the standout as well.
Need to have a Sugar Loaf, Ceci Love, Sweet Tart Battle Royale.
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Not sure, but think MBBS is fueled by high humidity, and Cookie was remarking upon it being remarkable that there was no bad issue with MBBS, with all the rain we've had.
Update. In another thread I reported on a Bolt vs LZ battle, in which Bolt won.
Latest battle was Bolt vs. Ceci Love...
CL took Bolt to the mat. Brighter and more flavorful mango. Of course, many would say more samplings and battles must be fought. But from past years, CL has been the standout as well.
Need to have a Sugar Loaf, Ceci Love, Sweet Tart Battle Royale.
Rob are you experiencing MBBS on your property? As far as I know my trees don't have MBBS, how prevalent is this in the Miami area?
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No MBBS on any of my trees/fruits, but my neighbor's TA appears to get it or something similar, pretty bad.
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Correct. MBBS should be decimating the harvest right now, but only a half a dozen or so affected fruits despite the insane rain and humidity. And I haven't even sprayed since bloom.
Not sure, but think MBBS is fueled by high humidity, and Cookie was remarking upon it being remarkable that there was no bad issue with MBBS, with all the rain we've had.
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Glad to see Cookie Monster posting again! I've learned a lot from your posts. Hope all's well!
Dang it, Honest Abe, per what you wrote about when to pick the Sugarloafs, I left mine on the tree too long. When I picked them, the yellow spot on a bunch was sizeable, and all the stems were dry. After only a couple days, the yellow spots are starting to feel mushy, while the rest of the fruits are still hard ☹️
Here's to hoping for no hurricanes and freezes, and for better luck picking Sugarloaf next year!
P.s. the recent NDM #4 blooms amounted to nothing.
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No Glenn’s in Kona this year :( anyone in FL growing golden glow?
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...and welcome back Cookie! The site certainly can use your experience, wisdom and reason =)
Sux about ndm blooms burning out Flip; a few of our winter blooms did the same (maha, coco cream). Have had only 1 ndm so far this year, and it was surprisingly exceptional.
Just picked 1st 2 Sweet Tarts. They are hard and mostly green, but popped off pretty easily and had drying stems.
Few Sugar Loafs and Ceci Loves have come in, and picked an OS the other day as well. Glenns are almost gone.
So far, has been our best mango season here at the house, and as well with the mangoes from other growers. 2023 is the Summer of Mango Love!
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I picked some sugarloafs when stems were brown and hollow and fruit had sap drips and seemed full sized…let ripen in garage for 7 days or so. OUTSTANDING even ripening and full flavor bomb potential was unleashed. I think is best for me when I see first one get yellow and soft on tree to pick all others from that crop and leave 7-10 days in garage.
My baileys marvels are excellent this year as well. Very short shelf life on those. Pick em when they turn yellow (seems to happen overnight with BM) and then eat within 2-3 days MAX.
As far as my neighborhood here:
DOT is second best so far behind my sugarloaf.
Duncan’s have been really sweet.
edwards have been awesome.
Carrie crop is slim on my dads tree lot of drops from summer storms but the few left on tree are great.
Happy hunting y’all.
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Oh boy, I finally got my hands on some PPK/LM today. Mango candy! ;D
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I recently had my first PPK, the flavor and texture were very good in my opinion.
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This is the first year my PPK is fruiting. Some fell off early and took a long time to soften and the flavor was decent but not great. I still have 3 hanging on the tree but they’re still hard and not yellow so I’m still waiting.
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I recently had my first PPK, the flavor and texture were very good in my opinion.
Occasionally they'll be bitter at or near the skin, which is the only thing that can be bad about this variety.
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My 1st time fruiting & eating M4, Cogshall & Pickering.
Next yr if peach cobbler, phoenix, maha & raw honey fruit, i'll be certified mango nut now too lol.
Mangos are good.
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One nice thing about PPK is that it hangs on the tree past maturity. So if you don't get out there regularly to pick mangoes, it won't send them to the ground before you get a chance to pick.
Oh boy, I finally got my hands on some PPK/LM today. Mango candy! ;D
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Left to right, Okrung, Carrie and Baileys Marvel.
The baileys from my yard.
All three are excellent this year.
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I realize this is a naive question, but is mango flavor affected by the care the tree has received?
My trees, which include some very well regarded varieties, received no fertilizer or other care for the last 2.5 years (I was away).
So far this year not a single tree has given me really good, full-flavored fruit.
I'm guessing that getting lots of rain has not helped, but I haven't heard anyone complain that 2023 crop is a washout.
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You can apply potassium and calcium to help sweeten up and get nice thick fleshed fruit for future crops.
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Can’t say for sure but Yea In my limited experience I second that about calcium for sure. I sprinkled oak wood ash a couple times last year and my mangoes tasted way better and seemed like thicker fleshed fruits. We had a heck of a drought prior to June too and that helps flavor A lot for sure/
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Wood ash is a great source of both calcium and potassium, and given the frequent rains in FL it also has the benefit of raising pH.
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Healthy plants have more chlorophyll to harvest more sunlight to make more sugar.
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Our pickering has been in the ground for just a year, and we got a legit little crop this year- maybe a dozen normal sized, great tasting fruit. There are still a couple left to harvest.
It is debatable whether I should have let it set fruit this year given the small size of the tree, but I'm hopeful that I get several nice growth flushes now that fruiting is complete.
Compared to the carrie we had at our old house, I'm a bigger fan of pickering so far- hopefully it doesn't let me down.
- I do really like Carrie's taste, but at times in the harvest season the flavor profile could get complex with some less desirable elements mixed in. Pickering is more straightfoward, solid mango + coconut
- Pickering is firmer and can be served sliced, diced, etc. Carrie can be extremely soft, great for making a puree, jam, etc. but not always so great for serving fresh.
- Pickering seems much more eager to set fruit compared to carrie
- Time will tell but I get the feeling pickering will be a smaller, easier to manage tree. My carrie was a large tree, tall and wide canopy.
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- Pickering seems much more eager to set fruit compared to carrie
I have 10 Carrie trees and 10 for 10 all set not just fruit, but a good quantity of fruit this year.
Pickering (only 1 fruited) has been much less likely at my location to set fruit but also was much more prone to various spots on the fruit and tree than my Carrie that bear fruit if even all the stems looking black and total leaf preventing sun from hitting where the fruit is located.
For me, Carrie trees are excellant bearing trees and Pickering (only 1 bearing, 2 other recently grafted) much worse odds of getting fruit at harvest time.
Here's a Super Julie that tastes similar to Carrie but a little sweeter with sometimes like a apricot hint.
Turns ripe fast also, like a Carrie from 1 day to the next except more obvious with the purple to red change of color.
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Sweet Tart picked a little early was still hugely satisfying.
Recent Orange Sherbet was even better than LZ. Got to get more LZs this year, I know they are better.
Some Sugar Loafs looking almost ready.
...and Squam just sent me a box, LOL
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I know LZ and OS have different textures, but do you notice a big difference in taste? I’ve had PPK and LZ, but not an OS yet.
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In south florida -- we had a lot of rain early, which washed out the flavor. That said, gypsum and potassium helps, just be sure not to overdo the potassium as it competes with calcium.
I realize this is a naive question, but is mango flavor affected by the care the tree has received?
My trees, which include some very well regarded varieties, received no fertilizer or other care for the last 2.5 years (I was away).
So far this year not a single tree has given me really good, full-flavored fruit.
I'm guessing that getting lots of rain has not helped, but I haven't heard anyone complain that 2023 crop is a washout.
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In south florida -- we had a lot of rain early, which washed out the flavor. That said, gypsum and potassium helps, just be sure not to overdo the potassium as it competes with calcium.
I realize this is a naive question, but is mango flavor affected by the care the tree has received?
My trees, which include some very well regarded varieties, received no fertilizer or other care for the last 2.5 years (I was away).
So far this year not a single tree has given me really good, full-flavored fruit.
I'm guessing that getting lots of rain has not helped, but I haven't heard anyone complain that 2023 crop is a washout.
And wood ash has a pretty good ratio usually much higher in calcium.
https://vric.ucdavis.edu/pdf/fertilization_Woodashes.pdf
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Maha from my tree. It has a hint of acidity and lovely spice scent; so good.
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I know LZ and OS have different textures, but do you notice a big difference in taste? I’ve had PPK and LZ, but not an OS yet.
LZ has been more complex than OS in the past, with a bit more acid as well. Both quite good, but usually LZ is preferred by those who like more complexity. OS is more simple mango and orange flavor, with less acidity. Juicy.
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Next in line
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Sooo many great mangoes, it has been a wonderful season.
Finally had a good Cac; in fact it was great. Guess the previous ones were picked too early, or eaten underripe, which usually works for me. Seems Cac needs to ripen all the way, Rich and sweet. Never got it till now.
Only a couple of Sugar Loafs, Ceci Loves, Sweet Tarts, Kesars, and a lone m4 left hanging.
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I know LZ and OS have different textures, but do you notice a big difference in taste? I’ve had PPK and LZ, but not an OS yet.
LZ has been more complex than OS in the past, with a bit more acid as well. Both quite good, but usually LZ is preferred by those who like more complexity. OS is more simple mango and orange flavor, with less acidity. Juicy.
PPK, as great as the flavor is, has a sort of sliminess to the pulp. I don't recall this with LZ, but I've only eaten a few. Is OS similar to PPK in this regard?
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Current Totals for 2023:
Glenn: 120 - 140 mangoes. 200 fruits produced 3 years ago, but the last 2 years were not good. Very tasty fruits, as good as they have ever been. Most mature of our mango trees, in ground since 2015. Has been trimmed a bit, relative productivity this year was comparable to the year it produced 200 fruit.
Ceci Love: 12+ fruit from 2 grafts on Glenn tree. Some still ripening. Excellent quality. 1st fruits from 2 year old grafts.
Sugar Loaf: 12+ fruit. Excellent quality. Small tree, just started producing.
Sweet Tart: 12+ fruit. Excellent quality. Smalll tree, just started producing.
Kesar: 16+ fruit. Very good+ quality. Only lower parts of tree fruited, which is weird because top part gets better sun; tree is shaded a bit. Has been producing 3 years, not much fruit yet. Think it needs more light.
Orange Sherbet: 1 fruit, from grafts on NDM4, medium sized tree fruited, but dropped all. Very good+ quality.
m4: Small tree holding 1 fruit.
Guava aka Sein Ta Lone: 2 fruit, good quality. Medium tree, just started producing.
Edward (new tree) held 1 fruit. Probably 1.5 lbs.
Coco Cream dropped all fruit.
NDM4 flowered a little, but did not hold fruit.
Maha graft flowered but did not hold.
With Dr. Campbell, Squam, and neighbors slinging mangoes around to add to our haul, feel like a kid in a candy shop everyday for the last 2 months.
Also, tried Creme Brűlée finally; very good. More ripe than I usually like, but was quite enjoyable at this stage. Juicy and complex, very sweet. Worth growing.
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I know LZ and OS have different textures, but do you notice a big difference in taste? I’ve had PPK and LZ, but not an OS yet.
LZ has been more complex than OS in the past, with a bit more acid as well. Both quite good, but usually LZ is preferred by those who like more complexity. OS is more simple mango and orange flavor, with less acidity. Juicy.
PPK, as great as the flavor is, has a sort of sliminess to the pulp. I don't recall this with LZ, but I've only eaten a few. Is OS similar to PPK in this regard?
Re OS:
OS beats PPK in my experiences, and LZ usually beats OS.
OS can get kind of jelly-ish when overripe, perhaps some slime. At proper ripeness, texture of OS is medium firm with a bit of juice. A joy to eat, never noticed a slime problem, but will look for slime next time =)
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Can anyone help with this? My orange sherbet mangoes are not ripening properly. No matter what they have a huge jelly seed. I've tried picking them earlier and not leaving them on the tree to ripen, and opening them earlier, and still the jelly seed. This is the first year the tree produced a lot of fruit. Last year I got a few fruit and I don't remember them having this problem.
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For me:
75+ mangoes on each tree for pickering, OS, and sweet tart trees. Pickerings started at beginning of May, completely done now. Sweet Tart started ripening in beginning of June, still some left now. OS started ripening now, but having a lot of problems with jelly seed, not sure what to do. About 15 mangoes on Glenn due to powdery mildew which ripened in May.
I'm freezing mangoes daily using pint and a half ball mason jars. Bought a chest freezer from Costco specifically for this purpose (it's great except it does make some noise but it was very cheap - around $250 total). The mason jar method is the easiest and most eco friendly way to store produce in my opinion.
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Can anyone help with this? My orange sherbet mangoes are not ripening properly. No matter what they have a huge jelly seed. I've tried picking them earlier and not leaving them on the tree to ripen, and opening them earlier, and still the jelly seed. This is the first year the tree produced a lot of fruit. Last year I got a few fruit and I don't remember them having this problem.
Increasing available Calcium and potentially including boron in a feeding regimen is likely to help.
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Yes, OS has the same "slimy" texture. It's prone to softnose and jelly seed in my experience. PPK can develop jelly seed as well but seems less prone than OS. LZ normally ripens very evenly.
I know LZ and OS have different textures, but do you notice a big difference in taste? I’ve had PPK and LZ, but not an OS yet.
LZ has been more complex than OS in the past, with a bit more acid as well. Both quite good, but usually LZ is preferred by those who like more complexity. OS is more simple mango and orange flavor, with less acidity. Juicy.
PPK, as great as the flavor is, has a sort of sliminess to the pulp. I don't recall this with LZ, but I've only eaten a few. Is OS similar to PPK in this regard?
Re OS:
OS beats PPK in my experiences, and LZ usually beats OS.
OS can get kind of jelly-ish when overripe, perhaps some slime. At proper ripeness, texture of OS is medium firm with a bit of juice. A joy to eat, never noticed a slime problem, but will look for slime next time =)
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haha welcome to the club. Despite growing on calcareous soil, I still have a major problem with uneven ripening of OS. Though when picked early, they should ripen normally.
I'm sure there is a way to mitigate the soft nose / jelly seed issue, but I haven't quite found it yet.
Soil water retention might be a factor (ie, high rain plus poorly draining soil might exacerbate the condition).
Can anyone help with this? My orange sherbet mangoes are not ripening properly. No matter what they have a huge jelly seed. I've tried picking them earlier and not leaving them on the tree to ripen, and opening them earlier, and still the jelly seed. This is the first year the tree produced a lot of fruit. Last year I got a few fruit and I don't remember them having this problem.
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Acids make Calcium available, except rain's acid (Carbonic acid), which makes Calcium unavailable.
Some additional pH buffering is required.
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Ok so pick them early while green. I'm going to try that.
Miami-Dade County has a huge limestone bedrock so I'm not sure if my soil needs more Calcium?
My OS taste nowhere near as good as the ones from Mango Men Homestead I purchased around 4-5 years ago. Theirs were amazing which prompted me to buy the tree. If it didn't have the huge jelly seed I wouldn't complain.
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haha welcome to the club. Despite growing on calcareous soil, I still have a major problem with uneven ripening of OS. Though when picked early, they should ripen normally.
I'm sure there is a way to mitigate the soft nose / jelly seed issue, but I haven't quite found it yet.
Soil water retention might be a factor (ie, high rain plus poorly draining soil might exacerbate the condition).
Can anyone help with this? My orange sherbet mangoes are not ripening properly. No matter what they have a huge jelly seed. I've tried picking them earlier and not leaving them on the tree to ripen, and opening them earlier, and still the jelly seed. This is the first year the tree produced a lot of fruit. Last year I got a few fruit and I don't remember them having this problem.
Yeah, This was a major issue for me the last time this tree fruited 2 years ago. The few early ones I had this year did not have this problem and will see how badly the main crop is affected now.
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Fertilized my neighbors OS with wood ash when blooming…picking them bow and so far no jelly seed but I pick when still rock-solid but hollow brown stems and then let sit for 7 days or so in garage. Nice even ripe yummy Ones. Also very sandy soul with just enough organic matter here it seems.
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Mangos from ZHPP. K is for Karla. I had planted a tree for someone looking for a Kent-type. I'll let you know. PC is Pina Colada.
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John let us know how those peach cobblers were please. The ones I’ve had this year are mediocre last year we’re amazing…
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John let us know how those peach cobblers were please. The ones I’ve had this year are mediocre last year we’re amazing…
I tasted Peach Cobbler last year, and it was amazing. The PC's are Pina Colada. I ran out of cash! $30 doesn't buy a lot of mangos. But in all fairness, ZHPP charges $4 a lb. The last time I was there 8 years ago, I think it was $3 a lb. (unless it was $2) so not bad. Nobody's getting rich selling mangos! I feel the Zill family has done the world a great service.
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Absolutely. I’m paying 5.50 a lb most places man. That’s just the price of top tier mangos nowadays.
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Still got some Kesar, Ceci Love, Sugar Loaf, and a lone m4 hanging. Critters already attacked the m4, so it's a goner. Going to graft more CL on Glenn, lots of new growth popping.
Trying to extend our season. April thru September would be great; currently have homegrown mangoes late April thru mid July.
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Have you considered a Beverly for one of your later varieties?
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Actually Had 2 amazing peach cobblers today. Had a Fruit punch today also, was good but really always seems like an over-rated mango to me. Had a decent sweet tart too. Just planted an m-4 tree . hope all is well,
-Abe
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About 7/10 of my peach cobbler have come off the tree and the other day I finally had one that was not just peachy but a strong peach flavor and it was better than the beginning of that variety fruits ripening. Also I would call it overripe to get that strong peach flavor.
Same thing of Phoenix, as I only had 5 fruit (first year fruiting) and first 4 were just average mangos. Last fruit I left on tree till it was ready to drop when I touched it and it was all red & orange. We took it inside and it was actually very good at what I would call and overripe condition. Phoenix also has the flowery taste similar to IMan Pasand and if you don't taste it when eating a ripe phoenix, eat the peelings and make sure it was ripe and you should get the flowery taste... Iman Pasand is always cracked at my location and to me not worth growing but I've changed my mind on Phoenix as it is that very different taste that no other mango gives but Iman Pasand and Phoenix as far as I'm aware.
This year, I consider a few mangos so dominate/strong/flavors that cover your taste buds for some time to be: DOT and Super Julie. Eat these mangos last during any mango tasting. If eaten earlier and followed by a mango like orange essence, the orange essence will not taste sweet at least to me. I then must wait till the next morning to eat the orange essence by itself and then I see it was actually sweet.
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Actually Had 2 amazing peach cobblers today. Had a Fruit punch today also, was good but really always seems like an over-rated mango to me. Had a decent sweet tart too. Just planted an m-4 tree . hope all is well,
-Abe
The one Peach Cobbler that I brought from Zill's was OK. It was still pretty firm but getting black spots. Flavor was tangerine (especially at the skin) and maybe baked peaches. I'd give it an 8. The one Coconut Cream was not so great. It didn't have a coconut flavor but some flavor other than straight-up mango. Only a 6 or 7 for that one.
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Peach cobblers have been raining down on me.
It's been pretty hard to keep up with.
Half my trees are done fruiting for the year.
This is the first year where I'll be a little happy when the season is over lol
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Lemon Zest's popularity is well deserved.
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Peach cobblers have been raining down on me.
It's been pretty hard to keep up with.
Half my trees are done fruiting for the year.
This is the first year where I'll be a little happy when the season is over lol
We are a little behind you up here. I tried my first fully ripened Peach Cobbler today. I had been eating them at the first signs of give and got mainly tangerine taste. Now that they are fully ripe and I get some peach type flavor. Very nice!
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Glad to read good things about Peach Cobbler. Mine should flower next yr. Phoenix too.
Would've this yr but i pruned them hard last yr when storm was possibly coming.
Played it safe.
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It's an amazing mango. Even with the washed out mango flavor year we've had so far, I had an LZ mango last night that measured 29 degree of brix.
Lemon Zest's popularity is well deserved.
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I haven't seen many LZ this year; maybe they were too good to let go?
My favs this year have been, in order:
1) Ceci Love
2) Sweet Tart
3) Sugar Loaf
4) LZ
...and a bunch of stuff tied for 5th
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I haven't seen many LZ this year; maybe they were too good to let go?
My favs this year have been, in order:
1) Ceci Love
2) Sweet Tart
3) Sugar Loaf
4) LZ
...and a bunch of stuff tied for 5th
I'm quoting you from June 26: LZ is not the GOAT, there is no such thing, but LZ is not even top 5 to me anymore; and that is just looking at flavor.
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I haven't seen many LZ this year; maybe they were too good to let go?
My favs this year have been, in order:
1) Ceci Love
2) Sweet Tart
3) Sugar Loaf
4) LZ
...and a bunch of stuff tied for 5th
I'm quoting you from June 26: LZ is not the GOAT, there is no such thing, but LZ is not even top 5 to me anymore; and that is just looking at flavor.
Sounds like it totally redeemed itself this year.
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Yes, some LZ redemption. Think my taste buds have just changed, and I appreciate other flavors more now.
Had a really good OS today as well.
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I tasted Orange Sherbet for the first time today (from ZHPP). It was picked green and took six days to ripen. I don't know if that's optimal for this variety. The flavor was very reminiscent of oranges. I find PPK to be more richly flavored and sweeter, but this is based on only one OS fruit. The seed was large as well. Is this normal? I'll comment on Pińa Colada after I eat the second one.
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Does anyone have an opinion about this? If a mango is picked green and after one week it's still hard and green (well starting to show a little yellow), was it probably picked too green? The mango in question is Karla, which is supposed to be a mid to late mango. I'm thinking that Zill may still be picking their mangos too early, which has been a problem in the past with them. You see 95% of the mangos in their office/shop being sold green with no color. Also, I overheard another customer asking about a particular variety, and the lady in the office (who seemed uncomfortable talking to customers) said it wasn't grown by them. Does anyone know who else they might get mangos from?
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I usually prefer mangoes picked green, but cant be too early or they don't ripen well/right. Some varieties are more forgiving than others.
Have to imagine that sellers of large volumes of fruit would have a tough time getting this right all the time, unless an objective and accurate early ripening detection system was developed and utilized.
Squirrels and other animals seem to know when green mangoes are about to ripen. What are they picking up on, and can we find a way to do the same?
...to answer the original question, while I don't know about that particular mango specifically, I've waited nearly 2 weeks for a green mango to ripen, and have then enjoyed an excellent mango. Sweet Tart is one that comes to mind.
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I admit I don't have any experience picking mangos green. Pickering, Angie, Mahachanok, and Honey Kiss are all color-changing mangos (or self-picking as Pickering and Angie will drop on their own). PPK starts to change color as well and will go full yellow.
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To me, a tree ripened mango should be eaten immediately, or very soon thereafter. There is no window for shipping or sitting around all week.
Some mangoes are partial exemptions and can last a few days on the counter after being picked tree-ripened. But they all degrade in quality with time. Green gives you time to play with and ship or wait, if picked right.
When I buy mangoes (which is usually weekly), always want at least 1/2 to 3/4+ of them to be green. Yellow hard ones are cool too. This way, I can have good and different mangoes all week.
But, if you have a bunch of trees and lotsa fruit thru the season, tree ripened is the way to go. Pick and eat =)
Mangoes that change color allow for easier early detection. Squirrels are teaching me when to pick the ones that stay green.
If you receive green mangoes, focus on softness when squeezed.
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I am giving a shout-out to member Florida Boy who righteously came and got some of my mangoes. Mostly ST and PC....Then we drove to Cookie Monster's house, where Florida Boy was amazed by the extensive fruit trees. And had a long talk with Elsy- Jeff's Wife....... So long that I drove back home. To leave FB there to drive back to Miami in his own car.
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I got a box recently that had 3 sweet tarts. The first two were perfect but the last, even a week and a half later, was still green hard and chalky. At that point I assume it was picked too soon and just wasn't ever gonna ripen up nicely.
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Here is the second of the Pińa Colada mangos that I purchased from ZHPP on 7/7. They both were chalky so I believe they were picked too green. PC is an example of a mango with lots of fiber that is totally redeemed by the flavor of the mango. This is a "knock-your-socks" fruit with high brix and high acidity at the same time. The name approximates the flavor, and there's some spiciness as well.
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First of all, OS is certainly a dulled -down citrus mango compared to PPK and LZ but still an elite mango IMO. I even Would go as far as saying PPK Can hold it’s own in comparison to LZ, IF LZ isn’t at its best. They are all different flavor profiles but in a battle of citrus mangos, I take PPK, LZ, OS, Okrung, in that order based on consistent eating quality alone. I know peeps might hate on me for calling okrung in the citrus category but I think it to be true I’d call it “key lime pie” or “honey-lime” if I could. I might even throw “Philippine” in the citrus category and probably Mallika too with its tangerine/orange flavors.
Secondly, ZHHP definitely picks too early, year after year. Usually Everything is chalky but still get an idea of what flavors the mangos are capable of, However IN MY OPINION mangos like Sugarloaf actually benefit from being picked early and ripening more evenly.
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OS had a different flavor than LZ and PPK, LZ and PPK were pretty close, both great, OS has a similar flavor, but I found more depth to it, like LZ meet coconut classic type flavor maybe closer to VP. All great fruit, I'd pick the one with the best season or shelf life.
Taralay is interesting, mild resin on the inside with parsnip towards the peel.
Zinc is very similar to P-22, I think Zinc may be the best of the Parsnip mangoes, but with a prime example of Coc/Cac ripening, I will withhold the title.
O-2 is Everything you would hope for in a mango however. Thick skin, Strong acidity, Nice Navel orange type citrus flavor. I am still on the fence if the mystery mango my friend is giving me are OE or O-2. The bright acidity is a dynamic contrast in O-2, makes it worth the wait.
Kent. It's a great standby, the best ones are rare, but if you can find them close to ripe, it's still a really great fruit, amazing how much fiber newer selections have compared to this common commercial entity.
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I tasted one M4, I picked early so skin were wrinkly. Its taste similar to coconut cream.
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I tasted one M4, I picked early so skin were wrinkly. Its taste similar to coconut cream.
After last season I couldn't agree more and I think taking them straight out of the refrigerator in hances that coconut flavor even more.
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Secondly, ZHHP definitely picks too early, year after year. Usually Everything is chalky but still get an idea of what flavors the mangos are capable of, However IN MY OPINION mangos like Sugarloaf actually benefit from being picked early and ripening more evenly.
Yes, you get an idea about the flavors. I got my little Sugarloaf tree and look forward to fruit in a few years and learning when to pick them!
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Does anyone have an opinion about this? If a mango is picked green and after one week it's still hard and green (well starting to show a little yellow), was it probably picked too green? The mango in question is Karla, which is supposed to be a mid to late mango. I'm thinking that Zill may still be picking their mangos too early, which has been a problem in the past with them. You see 95% of the mangos in their office/shop being sold green with no color. Also, I overheard another customer asking about a particular variety, and the lady in the office (who seemed uncomfortable talking to customers) said it wasn't grown by them. Does anyone know who else they might get mangos from?
First year picking Karla from my tree and this appears to be another mango that needs to be picked green to avoid uneven ripening. All the ones picked when showing signs of tree-ripening all had the same issue. Once cut open, the bottom 1/3 of the mango was just mush. Curious to know if anyone else is experiencing this or not. I've been picking its "sibling" Fruit Punch, when the nose turns yellow and it has no ripening issues at all.
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We got a set of those Corelle Butterfly Gold dishes as a wedding gift in 1975. Still have most of them!
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We got a set of those Corelle Butterfly Gold dishes as a wedding gift in 1975. Still have most of them!
How about these? Even older!
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A forum friend--one of the original members from 2012 like me (we're getting old!)--gave me a bag of SweetTarts today. I'll be reporting on those next.
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Had some great sweet tarts today, but honey kiss blew my mind. I had no idea honey kiss was capable of such greatness and complexity.
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Secondly, ZHHP definitely picks too early, year after year. Usually Everything is chalky but still get an idea of what flavors the mangos are capable of, However IN MY OPINION mangos like Sugarloaf actually benefit from being picked early and ripening more evenly.
Yes, you get an idea about the flavors. I got my little Sugarloaf tree and look forward to fruit in a few years and learning when to pick them!
Unfortunately this is a major problem with all mango retailers here. Also, you are paying $$$$ now, so you feel sad for wasting your money on something that doesn't taste great. This is why growing your own mangoes is a necessity!
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The difference between a good mango and an amazing mango! Karla was picked 11 days ago and was still hard. I would guess the variety has more flavor potential. As it is, it's medium sweet and in the classic flavor category of Kent/Keitt/Edward with a little more fiber than Kent or Keitt. It would probably be a good commercial variety for picking/shipping/sitting-in-the-store with decent flavor remaining.
Now SweetTart is in a different league. I picked this mango yesterday. It's juicy with deep color (and boy would it stain your clothes). The flavor is SE Asian (sorry, don't like the word "Indochinese" for something that's neither Indian nor Chinese) with floral and cola (parsnip) notes but with a lot of sugar and a lot of acidity. It's obvious why Alex says it's his favorite.
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The difference between a good mango and an amazing mango! Karla was picked 11 days ago and was still hard. I would guess the variety has more flavor potential. As it is, it's medium sweet and in the classic flavor category of Kent/Keitt/Edward with a little more fiber than Kent or Keitt. It would probably be a good commercial variety for picking/shipping/sitting-in-the-store with decent flavor remaining.
Now SweetTart is in a different league. I picked this mango yesterday. It's juicy with deep color (and boy would it stain your clothes). The flavor is SE Asian (sorry, don't like the word "Indochinese" for something that's neither Indian nor Chinese) with floral and cola (parsnip) notes but with a lot of sugar and a lot of acidity. It's obvious why Alex says it's his favorite.
I prefer sweet tart when it turns yellow and so do the birds
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Be careful not to pick them too early
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As OS ripens further I find myself favoring it more than LZ.
Where LZ is a more monotoned candy OS has more complexity, it has excellent orangey flavor similar to navel oranges.
I'm happy to find poly seeds rooting in the shells.
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Have seen nearly the opposite with OS and LZ; OS being sweet but 1 or 2-dimensional in flavor (orange and mango), and LZ being bright, sweet, and more complex. Even had an LZ with coconut flavor at the seed.
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Have seen nearly the opposite with OS and LZ; OS being sweet but 1 or 2-dimensional in flavor (orange and mango), and LZ being bright, sweet, and more complex. Even had an LZ with coconut flavor at the seed.
I'm all the more excited for when mine start fruiting.
Goes to show that some years one will dominate, in other years the opposite may be true.
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Go CeciLove! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuqQhgzmsIY
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Had some great sweet tarts today, but honey kiss blew my mind. I had no idea honey kiss was capable of such greatness and complexity.
That's great to hear. My little tree is developing nicely.
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Had my first Pickering off my little tree. This tiny Pickering was everything a Pickering should be. Truly delicious.
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Have seen nearly the opposite with OS and LZ; OS being sweet but 1 or 2-dimensional in flavor (orange and mango), and LZ being bright, sweet, and more complex. Even had an LZ with coconut flavor at the seed.
I'm all the more excited for when mine start fruiting.
Goes to show that some years one will dominate, in other years the opposite may be true.
Oolie take the pledge the lemon zest pledge don't be perplexed about the complexity of LZ
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I'm not ready for the Lemon Zest pledge, the Zinc pledge maybe, as it has the most favorable texture, and a shelf life beyond what anyone should expect for a mango. It's an excellent mix of flavors. Too bad for SoCal growers it's mono so growing it is only possible the hard way.
The O2 on the other hand is known to do well in SoCal, with the strong flavor of citrus when firmer, fading to peach when soft ripe. It's poly and has a flavor which should sway those who are not fond of mangoes. It's almost like an entirely different fruit, strong acidity in the tangelo range, but excellent sweetness and flavor towards the skin. It's the Mango that identifies as a citrus.
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I'm not ready for the Lemon Zest pledge, the Zinc pledge maybe, as it has the most favorable texture, and a shelf life beyond what anyone should expect for a mango. It's an excellent mix of flavors. Too bad for SoCal growers it's mono so growing it is only possible the hard way.
The O2 on the other hand is known to do well in SoCal, with the strong flavor of citrus when firmer, fading to peach when soft ripe. It's poly and has a flavor which should sway those who are not fond of mangoes. It's almost like an entirely different fruit, strong acidity in the tangelo range, but excellent sweetness and flavor towards the skin. It's the Mango that identifies as a citrus.
What is O2?
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I believe O-2 is Peach Cobbler
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Peach Cobbler is certainly a wonderful mango, and have realized I would like to become much more familiar with it.
Adding Carioca to my #5 spot. Different flavor of mango, refreshing, very nice.
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What is O2?
I believe O-2 is Peach Cobbler
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Ah yes, thanks. :)
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Adding Carioca to my #5 spot. Different flavor of mango, refreshing, very nice.
Any more details on this one?
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My Peach Cobbler mango graft from 2020 is holding fruit this year. Hopefully, they will mature in September. Flowering is no problem with this variety at my location.
As seen in the attached photo, the Peach Cobbler mango graft is on the Right side of the tree, has grown aggressively, and now makes up for 50% of the tree on Kent rootstock.
Johnny
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Peach Cobbler graft with developing Fruit (7-15-2023)
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Adding Carioca to my #5 spot. Different flavor of mango, refreshing, very nice.
Any more details on this one?
Ate quite a few of these this season, never tried before. Medium sized mango with no fiber and firm flesh. The flavor is sweet and floral, with light acidity. Refreshing to eat, seemed lighter than most mangoes, if that makes sense. Different class of flavors to me. Not like classic mango. Beggin' for budwood.
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My not so beautiful M4's.
They looked perfectly green 3 weeks ago and seem to hate excess rain when they start reaching maturity. My tree is in a very shady spot however it still produces well. Last year they looked better than this (I don't think we had as much rain) but two years ago they were full of skin cracks, splitting and scabbing as well. I've been picking 1 or 2 mangos a week for 3 weeks trying to see if they ripen properly before they start rotting on the tree.
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My not so beautiful M4's.
They looked perfectly green 3 weeks ago and seem to hate excess rain when they start reaching maturity. My tree is in a very shady spot however it still produces well. Last year they looked better than this (I don't think we had as much rain) but two years ago they were full of skin cracks, splitting and scabbing as well. I've been picking 1 or 2 mangos a week for 3 weeks trying to see if they ripen properly before they start rotting on the tree.
"They looked perfectly green 3 weeks ago"
Those 3 mangos in the pictures are 21 days old since being Picked??? If so, I would definitely put in refrigerator & cool down & try one as soon as cooled & go from there.
Have your tasted any and if so after how many days after being picked green & how were they?
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M4 are mature and ready to be picked in Martin County.
One weights 1.6lb and other 1.66lb
One on left was picked Tues. and 3 days later has softened and I'm guessing will taste primarily sweet pineapple. I will put it in refrigerator for tomorrow and hope to also get a little coconut taste but expect it to take about 5 days in refrigerator (just a guess from prior years).
One on right was picked Wednesday and is a little firmer but showing very slight softness so about a day behind other.
These mangos can often hang on the tree for quite some time so no hurry to harvest the crop as they (as do most varieties) get sweeter and sweeter as the days go by...
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I tasted Gold Nugget for the first time. Not at all impressed.
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My not so beautiful M4's.
They looked perfectly green 3 weeks ago and seem to hate excess rain when they start reaching maturity. My tree is in a very shady spot however it still produces well. Last year they looked better than this (I don't think we had as much rain) but two years ago they were full of skin cracks, splitting and scabbing as well. I've been picking 1 or 2 mangos a week for 3 weeks trying to see if they ripen properly before they start rotting on the tree.
"They looked perfectly green 3 weeks ago"
Those 3 mangos in the pictures are 21 days old since being Picked??? If so, I would definitely put in refrigerator & cool down & try one as soon as cooled & go from there.
Have your tasted any and if so after how many days after being picked green & how were they?
No, the 3 pictured are not 21 days old. I have been picking 1 or 2 mangos per week to see if they ripen properly. All the ones I cut open are more of a pale yellow color, not fully sweet and missing the coconut flavor.
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CAC/COC has the same parsnip flavor as ZINC with a similar texture, but it has a Hadenesque resin component near the skin that displeases me. ZINC also has superior acidity.
It's really too bad that ZINC is mono while CAC/COC is poly, at least SoCal growers have Sweet Tart for that group.
I'm on the lookout for Keitts now, I love the pinesol lemonyness with the funky background, haven't had a good one in a couple years and now I'm missing them.
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OK, I'm always impressed by Kent. Its different flavors at different stages of ripeness are always deserving of remarks. Tonight's was on the overripe side, but still with a good subacid, only the sweetness had begun to fade and the texture just slightly too soft.
The remarkable part was the flavor. It had a synthetic cherry flavor like candy. Think like Cherry flavored Jolly Ranchers. It wasn't one note, but that was by far the dominant characteristic.
Never experienced it before in Kent, and it made me realize the reason why people would name a mango something as silly as 'Fruit Cocktail'. At least that's one that hasn't been renamed yet.
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Had a tasting over in Area 51 with Ham Brown Palm City and myself. Area 51 refers to the 51st tree by the barn next to the beehive. That tree is one of my favorites it is fondly referred to as Little Keitt. We sampled mini top tier varieties and took some home with us but the one I found most enjoyable was buttercream for the second time in two different tasting. That's confirmation in my grafting book. Palm City did you get one of those parsnip mangoes? I think I may have ended up taking the oregano variety home with me. lol🤣
Wonderful time on National mango day with fellow Martin County Osceola County Co-op members. Goldenhillsfarms don't be bashful young fellow we're still holding a bag of mangoes for you🙂
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Palm City I followed the rainbow back to Osceola and found this pot of Mark Anthony gold]
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Had a very creamy orange sherbet today. Quite pleased with the creamsicle flavor.
As for the sweet tart discussion, I think it’s elite when it’s super ripe and gets that dark orange-flesh instead of the earlier yellow-flesh and tartness. ST is an extremely consistent mango too as far as elite flavor, I think one of the most consistent performers.
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Has Pineapple Pleasure fallen out of favor? I haven't seen it mentioned at all this year.
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Has Pineapple Pleasure fallen out of favor? I haven't seen it mentioned at all this year.
I wasn't able to find any for shipping and didn't see much on it being available at the few stands I follow on Instagram. I was really hoping to try it this year after last year's rave reviews
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I made a trip to Truly Tropical, Delray Beach, today to see what was still available. Chris had just picked a box of assorted mangos and was selling them for $8 a lb. God bless her that she has customers at that price point, but when you're on social security like me, no can do. She still must have a passion for what she's doing because she could easily sell that property in one of the most desirable neighborhoods in South Florida and retire a wealthy woman. Walter had a sign "Closed on Saturdays." ??? Then I remembered that the Zill family are Seventh-Day Adventists.
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Has Pineapple Pleasure fallen out of favor? I haven't seen it mentioned at all this year.
I had a Pineapple Pleasure this year that was one of the best fruits I've ever had. Previously I think the ones I had from other places were picked too early. I believe the Fairchild Mango Festival winner was a Pineapple Pleasure from Tropical Acres Farm.
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Has Pineapple Pleasure fallen out of favor? I haven't seen it mentioned at all this year.
I had a Pineapple Pleasure this year that was one of the best fruits I've ever had. Previously I think the ones I had from other places were picked too early. I believe the Fairchild Mango Festival winner was a Pineapple Pleasure from Tropical Acres Farm.
What I've gathered is that Pineapple Pleasure is even better flavored than Sugarloaf, just harder to grow. Does that sound about right? I'm curious as to how they might differ in flavor.
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Well holy smokes, $8 / pound. That's nuts. It wasn't that long ago that she sold for $2 / pound. Inflation has hit the trop fruit industry pretty hard. I remember when you could get fruiting jaboticaba trees for around $30 at zills and when a quarter acre of land was $25k. So much has changed.
I made a trip to Truly Tropical, Delray Beach, today to see what was still available. Chris had just picked a box of assorted mangos and was selling them for $8 a lb. God bless her that she has customers at that price point, but when you're on social security like me, no can do. She still must have a passion for what she's doing because she could easily sell that property in one of the most desirable neighborhoods in South Florida and retire a wealthy woman. Walter had a sign "Closed on Saturdays." ??? Then I remembered that the Zill family are Seventh-Day Adventists.
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I wanted to add to the thread that the Zinc i got from skhan were incredible; sweet, firm, and fiberless. I was unfamiliar with it until this season and was really surprised how much I enjoyed it.
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Well holy smokes, $8 / pound. That's nuts. It wasn't that long ago that she sold for $2 / pound. Inflation has hit the trop fruit industry pretty hard. I remember when you could get fruiting jaboticaba trees for around $30 at zills and when a quarter acre of land was $25k. So much has changed.
I made a trip to Truly Tropical, Delray Beach, today to see what was still available. Chris had just picked a box of assorted mangos and was selling them for $8 a lb. God bless her that she has customers at that price point, but when you're on social security like me, no can do. She still must have a passion for what she's doing because she could easily sell that property in one of the most desirable neighborhoods in South Florida and retire a wealthy woman. Walter had a sign "Closed on Saturdays." ??? Then I remembered that the Zill family are Seventh-Day Adventists.
I'm glad I have my own yard planted out and had an abundant mango harvest this year. Buying local fruit is really not affordable, and it's also really disappointing to pay tons of $ and have the fruit not ripen properly either or be over-ripe. For these reasons (cost & quality) it's so important to plant out your own yard with trees.
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Or work on farms / orchards where you get the best picks without having the attachment of it being “mine”
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Peach Cobbler? I finally got to eat one from member Khan. I had refrigerated this PC for the seed, which I was sending to California. That got delayed. So this PC fruit sat in my refrigerator 10 days. When I took it out of fridge to remove the seed, it was super mushy. I almost tossed it. But then I am trying some, and I wolfed it all down. Lots of nieuw Zill type of orange flavors. On the elite tier.
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I wanted to add to the thread that the Zinc i got from skhan were incredible; sweet, firm, and fiberless. I was unfamiliar with it until this season and was really surprised how much I enjoyed it.
Glad you enjoyed it, the last few from the tree started getting some carbonations going but without any extra funky flavors,
It was pretty interesting but the batch you got some fruit from was the prime flavor IMO
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Peach Cobbler? I finally got to eat one from member Khan. I had refrigerated this PC for the seed, which I was sending to California. That got delayed. So this PC fruit sat in my refrigerator 10 days. When I took it out of fridge to remove the seed, it was super mushy. I almost tossed it. But then I am trying some, and I wolfed it all down. Lots of nieuw Zill type of orange flavors. On the elite tier.
Glad you enjoyed it.
I'm torn between this mango.
The flavor has always been outstanding but it is hard to pick ripe and it's even harder to peel.
One redeeming quality I'm finding after a few years of fruiting is that the fruit seems to be pretty forgiving when picked on the earlier side.
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Texture is a possible downside of O2, it's a bit soft, and pectiny.
The flesh has a beautiful orange glow to it, I bet the juice is remarkable.
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I would agree with a lot of the comments on O-2/Peach Cobbler for all sellers I purchased from this season. The texture was a bit uneven throughout the fruits, one day too late and you'll have tons of soft spots. However, the flavor makes up for any inconsistencies in quality, sooooo good. I had one PC from Bill in Davie that sat on my counter for 8 days and was still fairly firm when eaten, I suppose picking time plays a big factor into that.
Although khan, I would personally disagree with the fruit being hard to peel, unless you meant right when picked off the tree. I found that after a few days, the skin was one of the easiest to peel right off and barely took any flesh with it. From peeling to cutting, tons of juice poured out as well @oolie and it was an absolutely remarkable taste.
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I would agree with a lot of the comments on O-2/Peach Cobbler for all sellers I purchased from this season. The texture was a bit uneven throughout the fruits, one day too late and you'll have tons of soft spots. However, the flavor makes up for any inconsistencies in quality, sooooo good. I had one PC from Bill in Davie that sat on my counter for 8 days and was still fairly firm when eaten, I suppose picking time plays a big factor into that.
Although khan, I would personally disagree with the fruit being hard to peel, unless you meant right when picked off the tree. I found that after a few days, the skin was one of the easiest to peel right off and barely took any flesh with it. From peeling to cutting, tons of juice poured out as well @oolie and it was an absolutely remarkable taste.
Yeh the act of peeling itself is not bad, just the amount of mess it makes with all the juice.
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I got a bumper crop of mangoes this year even though I lost about half the crop to the extreme drought we were having. The other side effect of the intense heat and lack of rain, all earlier mangoes were sugar bombs. The Pickering and Coconut Cream, in particular, were almost unbearably sweet. I let them all tree ripen because even with eating 4-5 mangoes a day, freezing mangoes and giving them away to friends, family and neighbors, I could not keep up.
Last year, I got only one Carrie and a squirrel beat me to it. This year I got about 60 and they were excellent.
I got some freakishly large Edward and Mallika mangoes. A few of the Edwards were close to 2 lbs each. I had no idea they could get that large!
Now that we have had some rain for the past three weeks the intense sweetness in the Coconut cream mangoes has eased up and I can taste coconut and a bit of pineapple flavor and not just sugar. Have 3 of them left and I am savoring them!
The first Orange Sherbet to ripen had jelly seed but the rest have been fine. I know a lot of people think LZ is superior but my first experince with LZ was so horrible, even when I eat a good one now, I have that unpleasant memory that keeps me from truly appreciating it.
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Was a fantastic mango season 🙏
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Was a fantastic mango season 🙏
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What are they??
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Looks like a bunch of Sweet Tarts =)
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On reflection, I believe OS had some of the orange character that O2 had, must have Gary in the parentage.
I really enjoyed it this year.
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Zill (ZHPP) is done picking for the season. No fruit for sale. I'm not sure about Walter. Does anyone know if Alex (TAF) sells any of his mangoes for less than $6 a lb?
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Zill (ZHPP) is done picking for the season. No fruit for sale. I'm not sure about Walter. Does anyone know if Alex (TAF) sells any of his mangoes for less than $6 a lb?
John I'm going to send you a PM
I don't want to discuss South Florida inflation on the Forum
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Well holy smokes, $8 / pound. That's nuts. It wasn't that long ago that she sold for $2 / pound. Inflation has hit the trop fruit industry pretty hard. I remember when you could get fruiting jaboticaba trees for around $30 at zills and when a quarter acre of land was $25k. So much has changed.
My average price for mangoes this season is $7 except for few Cat Hoa Loc that ran me $12/lb.
I was paying between $6 and $8 a pound this year. Last year average was $4; bought a few Orange Sherbet that was $8/lb.
I am ok paying $8/lb but some of the fancy/popular mangoes like Sweet Tart, Fairchild, etc that I bought turned out to be pretty disappointing like eating unevenly ripen lemon; probably picked too early. This led my wife to ask me to cut short on my mango escapades. lol.
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Well holy smokes, $8 / pound. That's nuts. It wasn't that long ago that she sold for $2 / pound. Inflation has hit the trop fruit industry pretty hard. I remember when you could get fruiting jaboticaba trees for around $30 at zills and when a quarter acre of land was $25k. So much has changed.
My average price for mangoes this season is $7 except for few Cat Hoa Loc that ran me $12/lb.
I was paying between $6 and $8 a pound this year. Last year average was $4; bought a few Orange Sherbet that was $8/lb.
I am ok paying $8/lb but some of the fancy/popular mangoes like Sweet Tart, Fairchild, etc that I bought turned out to be pretty disappointing like eating unevenly ripen lemon; probably picked too early. This led my wife to ask me to cut short on my mango escapades. lol.
I deleted my comment. It was probably too judgemental.
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2nd/3rd/ etc. mangos this year still eating::: Carrie is typical for me in Aug. but this is the first year to get Glen on a few trees. I just finished a delicious Glen Just like in the spring. But I only have a few maybe 6 more after picking 4 on the trees (on more than 1 tree this partial bloom harvest late).
Trickling out slowly in Aug: Maalika, Orange essence, LZ, Sweet Tart. Valencia Pride, Cac, Super Julie, Tebow aka Young, Edgar, M4,Cotton Candy, Nam Doc Mai just saw 1 more on the tree.
Not yet half harvested: Kent, Venus, Rapoza.
Waiting their Day to Arrive: Various Keitt (They get sweeter and sweeter as the Day goes by) Awaiting sweetness to increase to top expected levels before selling. Only sold a few large Keitt after sampling a sweet tree's harvest but will not sell Little Keitt yet as IMO too soon at this location.
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Palmcity - Do you sell any of your mangoes? I am interested in the Orange essence, Sweet tart, LZ and Cac. I have these varieties planted but they are young and not fruiting yet.
Fruitnoob - $8/Lb for Orange Sherbet!!! I just sold a box of 10 for $55 and that included priority shipping. You are in FL, I would have just given you a few to try if you were anywhere near my location. I've lost about 30 OS to squirrels. 5 of my largest ones just yesterday. They aren't even ripe. They take a bite or two and then leave them there to taunt me, drives me nuts!
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Yes, I had the same problem. Golden Queen is another that they seem to enjoy, as well as Florida Hass avocado. They can end up destroying most of the crop. And they cause damage to the house (they were chewing through the foam and furring strips under my tile roof). Air rifles are the best defense. A shot to the head or upper chest will instantly take them out.
I've lost about 30 OS to squirrels. 5 of my largest ones just yesterday. They aren't even ripe. They take a bite or two and then leave them there to taunt me, drives me nuts!
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Palmcity - Do you sell any of your mangoes? I am interested in the Orange essence, Sweet tart, LZ and Cac. I have these varieties planted but they are young and not fruiting yet.
Fruitnoob - $8/Lb for Orange Sherbet!!! I just sold a box of 10 for $55 and that included priority shipping. You are in FL, I would have just given you a few to try if you were anywhere near my location. I've lost about 30 OS to squirrels. 5 of my largest ones just yesterday. They aren't even ripe. They take a bite or two and then leave them there to taunt me, drives me nuts!
@Jackson, thanks for the generous offer. $8/lb for the OS was last year's price.
If I lost any OS to the squirrels, the squirrels would be on my grill ASAP! lol I still have a couple of years before my 3gal OS tree could fruit, hopefully.
I bought some Venus mangoes from the local Detwiler's market, and they were pretty good! Creamy, sweet with some faint acidity.
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Yes, I had the same problem. Golden Queen is another that they seem to enjoy, as well as Florida Hass avocado. They can end up destroying most of the crop. And they cause damage to the house (they were chewing through the foam and furring strips under my tile roof). Air rifles are the best defense. A shot to the head or upper chest will instantly take them out.
I've lost about 30 OS to squirrels. 5 of my largest ones just yesterday. They aren't even ripe. They take a bite or two and then leave them there to taunt me, drives me nuts!
I had a question about air rifles, but Google answered it for me.
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Think I've been paying $4 - $5 per lb this year.
Gotta wonder, what are homegrown mangoes costing me? Trees + supplies = ??? ...and then time, at hourly rate = expensive mangoes. Damage/cost will come down with time, as more trees become more productive, but don't think there is such thing as a free mango much these days.
What a great season this year has been though, WOW! Almost mangoed out, but not quite. Gonna pick some up this weekend. The best thing has been the wide variety and taste testing new ones, along with plenty of my favorites.
Time to prune, graft, and prepare for next season.
What are people planning on adding/grafting, based upon performance and quality this season?
Adding more Ceci Love and Carioca here.
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It's legal in Tamarac, but I know Fort Lauderdale has a prohibition on firing air rifles within the city. Obviously one must use due caution.
Yes, I had the same problem. Golden Queen is another that they seem to enjoy, as well as Florida Hass avocado. They can end up destroying most of the crop. And they cause damage to the house (they were chewing through the foam and furring strips under my tile roof). Air rifles are the best defense. A shot to the head or upper chest will instantly take them out.
I've lost about 30 OS to squirrels. 5 of my largest ones just yesterday. They aren't even ripe. They take a bite or two and then leave them there to taunt me, drives me nuts!
I had a question about air rifles, but Google answered it for me.
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There's certainly a lot of labor involved in harvesting, pruning, weed control, etc. But even at $4 / pound, you're looking at like 80k+ gross revenue per acre.
Think I've been paying $4 - $5 per lb this year.
Gotta wonder, what are homegrown mangoes costing me? Trees + supplies = ??? ...and then time, at hourly rate = expensive mangoes. Damage/cost will come down with time, as more trees become more productive, but don't think there is such thing as a free mango much these days.
What a great season this year has been though, WOW! Almost mangoed out, but not quite. Gonna pick some up this weekend. The best thing has been the wide variety and taste testing new ones, along with plenty of my favorites.
Time to prune, graft, and prepare for next season.
What are people planning on adding/grafting, based upon performance and quality this season?
Adding more Ceci Love and Carioca here.
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The end of the 2023 season in South FL. They're Keitt, of course. They could have stayed on the tree longer, but the squirrels would have gotten them.
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The end of the 2023 season in South FL. They're Keitt, of course. They could have stayed on the tree longer, but the squirrels would have gotten them.
The thought of not eating local mangoes for many months had us in the Redlands this past weekend on the hunt for some Keitts. Happy to have them! Can't wait until next season.
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Enjoyed some Beverlys today and over the past week. Very good. Better than the Neelams that are/were around.
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I have THE BEST lawn guy around. We trade mangoes during the season, but he always overloads me and keeps me covered in avocadoes, too. He just dropped some big Kents on me, says many trees are still holding fruit.
And he gave me $20 bucks!! :D
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I have THE BEST lawn guy around. We trade mangoes during the season, but he always overloads me and keeps me covered in avocadoes, too. He just dropped some big Kents on me, says many trees are still holding fruit.
And he gave me $20 bucks!! :D
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Two of them look absolutely gigantic.
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I have THE BEST lawn guy around. We trade mangoes during the season, but he always overloads me and keeps me covered in avocadoes, too. He just dropped some big Kents on me, says many trees are still holding fruit.
And he gave me $20 bucks!! :D
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Can I get your "lawn guy's" contact info? =)
Was pretty happy with my guys, till I saw your post.
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Last venus from Florida.
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It's late August, anything other than Keitt left on the trees in Florida?
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Venus and orange essence
It's late August, anything other than Keitt left on the trees in Florida?
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It's late August, anything other than Keitt left on the trees in Florida?
Just found a M-4 hanging nice on one of the trees still.
Keitt large, keitt smaller size seedling, Venus, Kent, Sweet Tart (1 or 2 hidden from birds), Mallika, Carrie. ***last Nam Doc Mai is still on counter from 3 days ago***
LOL... At least 4 big green Valencia Pride hanging on the tree, just walked out & checked... lol...
Ok, since a lot of people do not understand that most mango trees can flower multiple times, I will include a Carrie threesome hanging, and a ripe Valencia Pride with two green hanging from a prolific tree that has had low anthracnose this year and is obvious still bearing fruit.... Big Keitt and little keitt seedlings bear through anthracnose no problem at my location also.
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The end of the 2023 season in South FL. They're Keitt, of course. They could have stayed on the tree longer, but the squirrels would have gotten them.
I just started eating them today, eight days later. They're pretty sweet, considering how green they were when picked. Not seeing MBBS.
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2023 Mango Season is truly winding down as only 2 months left in 2023...
Here's some live Keitt just hanging out today Nov. 1st 2023....
How do I get them to survive this long??? I pick trees far from the house first and wait till the end of the season to pick fruit on trees next to the house/patio. The squirrels/birds/rats/ & rabbits try to stay away from Elmer Fudd's back door...
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Wow! You have some amazing self control.
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Impressed to see mangoes still holding; nice!
Hope to soon see signs of the next crop to come.
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2023 Mango Season is truly winding down as only 2 months left in 2023...
Here's some live Keitt just hanging out today Nov. 1st 2023....
Mango in November! I'd nominate you to be the winner of the 2023 mango season. My mangoes come from Costco these days. lol
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Inflorescence spotted on Sugar Loaf. And so it begins again...
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My small choc annon has 3 on there still starting to turn yellow. Seems they might be ready for Thanksgiving. The first one we ate last week and were really surprised how sweet-good it was compared to the reports I've read about it. Absolutely no musk! Im super stoked for it to get bigger so there's more around next off season, or I hope at least.
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Inflorescence spotted on Sugar Loaf. And so it begins again...
We'll have to start new topic, "Mango Season 2024."
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We'll have to start new topic, "Mango Season 2024."
Per Lee Corso "Not So Fast"
If your able to keep the birds, squirrels, rats, etc. etc. etc. off Keitt Mango... In South Florida, Keitt mango are possible to hang on the tree Late into November as seen today...
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Update 12.4.2023..... Yes... Keitt Mango hanging on tree in December in South Florida
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We'll have to start new topic, "Mango Season 2024."
Per Lee Corso "Not So Fast"
If your able to keep the birds, squirrels, rats, etc. etc. etc. off Keitt Mango... In South Florida, Keitt mango are possible to hang on the tree Late into November as seen today...
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That one is literally bursting open
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That's it for my mango season. Just picked the last 3 before the rodents got to em. Then picked all the dragonfruit that were ripe. I'll be sure to find a spot for Keit as well after seeing how late of a season they are. My neighbor gave me one about 2 months ago and it was a top tier fruit as far as flavor/texture. Like candy. There's just so many great ones I'm up over 30 varieties now.
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I had a keitt yesterday that was very sweet. In Kona now I’m seeing keitts,r2e2, rapoza, brooks and zillate
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Those fruit from the choc anon were like a mix between a lemon meringue/ coconut cream. Really caught me off guard how great they were. Easily better than coconut cream. They had some ataulfo mangos at Sam's last week that were actually palatable and ripened up correctly so I went back and got another box which is almost gone now 😆
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Those fruit from the choc anon were like a mix between a lemon meringue/ coconut cream. Really caught me off guard how great they were. Easily better than coconut cream. They had some ataulfo mangos at Sam's last week that were actually palatable and ripened up correctly so I went back and got another box which is almost gone now 😆
You are making me crave mangoes bad, even with all the Thanksgiving delights on the way. Mix bw LM and CC!?!? So jealous!
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!