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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: oiboyz on March 29, 2023, 04:01:43 AM
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The husband and I have gone crazy this year adding plants to our yard. Among the new trees and vines are nectarine, Beaumont guava, tangerine, tangelo, Fuji apple, honeycrisp apple, Frederick passion fruit, boysenberry, and acerola. All of these will theoretically bear fruit that ripens in the summer, fall, or winter.
That got me thinking: do any of you know of fruits that ripen in the springtime? It seems unlikely that there would be a plant that grows its fruit just when the light is lowest and the weather coldest.
We're in zone 10A. As a new fruit grower I'd welcome input. :)
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Mulberry, Loquat, Strawberries, and Blueberry.
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Mysore raspberry
Mulberries
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Cherimoya (early spring late winter), many citrus, low chill apricot.
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one of my surinam cherries has a crop of fruit ripening now
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Welcome to the Forum
Allot of my Eugenia sp. are flowering and fruiting now
Also my jaboticabas are flowering and fruiting.
I've got low chill peaches with almost ripe fruit.
Most of mulberries and loquats are fruiting
I am in Florida though and we had a very warm Winter
and Spring
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Florida (and greenhouses) are different; things ripen much later in California. My mulberries are just now beginning to form flowers so I should get fruit in a month or so, but loquats are already beginning to ripen. No flowers on any eugenias yet; it's too early. But my cape gooseberry has some fruit and I have a young pepino melon plant with a nearly-ripe fruit on it.
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Thanks so much for the answers, everybody! I didn't expect to get that many suggestions and several of them look delicious. One day perhaps we'll have fruit year round. :D
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My wild dewberry. During more mild winters the are some citrus
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Don't forget avocados! There are many avocado varieties that ripen in spring.
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Lots of late citrus (Shasta Gold, Gold nugget, Pixie) but I wouldn't plant them in your area at the moment due to HLB and the length of time it takes to establish tangerines. I have a vigorous navel that's edible in Nov, but is best in May.
The outlook is not good for citrus.
Loquats are an excellent fruit, Spring Fredricks are the best ones, the true black mulberries (M.nigra) are something I consider essential for a dooryard fruit grower in your clime, but there are other good ones as well.
Don't overlook good Apricots, but do overlook commonly planted ones like Cot-n-candy. I multigraft all the prunus to extend the seasons.
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Mysore raspberry
Mulberries
Are they nice and sour? I want to try them in my yard
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Sapodilla (silas woods) tomatoes, bananas, Muntingia Calabura
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Dwarf Thai and Dwarf Everbearing Mulberries are ripening here. Not to hijack the thread, but how far do you cut your Mulberries back after fruiting? A third?
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Mysore raspberry
Mulberries
Are they nice and sour? I want to try them in my yard
Persian mulberry is sour but it's much later than Pak or Himalayan or Tice, the latter are all sweet. Golden berries by the bushel are ripe as well even throughout winter.
Ultimate in sour is Pitangatuba, also a really consistent long season but not so much spring at least for me here in 9b.
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Dwarf Thai and Dwarf Everbearing Mulberries are ripening here. Not to hijack the thread, but how far do you cut your Mulberries back after fruiting? A third?
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I cut them back about a foot most of the time on a mature tree. Depends on how thick the branches are, how vigorous the roots are, etc. I let them grow back and fruit, then cut back again. Sometimes can get 3 crops in a year if good conditions and tree is happy. Once the branch is about 1/2" I stop cutting it there and let the tree get bigger.
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Mysore raspberry
Mulberries
Are they nice and sour? I want to try them in my yard
Persian mulberry is sour but it's much later than Pak or Himalayan or Tice, the latter are all sweet. Golden berries by the bushel are ripe as well even throughout winter.
Ultimate in sour is Pitangatuba, also a really consistent long season but not so much spring at least for me here in 9b.
Thanks for the info. I had no idea any mulberry was sour. Ask the ones I eat are sweet and if they are unripe they taste long of green.
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I had no idea any mulberry was sour.
Persian is like fake sour blue raspberry flavor, love it.
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I had no idea any mulberry was sour.
Persian is like fake sour blue raspberry flavor, love it.
I suspect my husband and daughter world too. I don't get any blackberries yet because they eat them all while they are still red
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The husband and I have gone crazy this year adding plants to our yard. Among the new trees and vines are nectarine, Beaumont guava, tangerine, tangelo, Fuji apple, honeycrisp apple, Frederick passion fruit, boysenberry, and acerola. All of these will theoretically bear fruit that ripens in the summer, fall, or winter.
That got me thinking: do any of you know of fruits that ripen in the springtime? It seems unlikely that there would be a plant that grows its fruit just when the light is lowest and the weather coldest.
We're in zone 10A. As a new fruit grower I'd welcome input. :)
Some avocado varieties. Also, if you find citrus like navel oranges and tangelos that were left on the tree, they're much sweeter than those picked in the winter.
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I had no idea any mulberry was sour.
Persian is like fake sour blue raspberry flavor, love it.
I suspect my husband and daughter world too. I don't get any blackberries yet because they eat them all while they are still red
They will love M.nigra but the tree really despises the humidity.
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I had no idea any mulberry was sour.
Persian is like fake sour blue raspberry flavor, love it.
I suspect my husband and daughter world too. I don't get any blackberries yet because they eat them all while they are still red
They will love M.nigra but the tree really despises the humidity.
Well there is no helping humidity in Houston. Darn
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They will love M.nigra but the tree really despises the humidity.
Interesting. It charges super hard here in California. Sad to hear it's not for FL, it really is excellent.
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Thanks for the pruning recommendation, K-Rimes!
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They will love M.nigra but the tree really despises the humidity.
Interesting. It charges super hard here in California. Sad to hear it's not for FL, it really is excellent.
In the coastal parts it may succeed, but the margins are slim. Houston is a no-go, way too wet. In a greenhouse in Hill Country, it might be great.
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They will love M.nigra but the tree really despises the humidity.
Interesting. It charges super hard here in California. Sad to hear it's not for FL, it really is excellent.
In the coastal parts it may succeed, but the margins are slim. Houston is a no-go, way too wet. In a greenhouse in Hill Country, it might be great.
Oh good point. I'll ask my sister if she'll plant one on a property she has up there
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This is an interesting discussion about mulberries in Florida. I bought one many years ago at Home Depot labeled as M. nigra and it is almost bulletproof. I had always thought that one of the defining features of M. nigra was that it didn't have seeds. I have never seen seeds in mine (although I have noticed tiny seeds in the Pakistani mulberry that I obtained from Pine Island Nursery many years later). I believe that Pakistani is a M. alba cultivar (which to my understanding does have seeds). I wonder if nematodes are the issue instead of humidity?
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This is an interesting discussion about mulberries in Florida. I bought one many years ago at Home Depot labeled as M. nigra and it is almost bulletproof. I had always thought that one of the defining features of M. nigra was that it didn't have seeds. I have never seen seeds in mine (although I have noticed tiny seeds in the Pakistani mulberry that I obtained from Pine Island Nursery many years later). I believe that Pakistani is a M. alba cultivar (which to my understanding does have seeds). I wonder if nematodes are the issue instead of humidity?
I understand Florida has a different type of RKN than we have in San Diego. My mulberry tree is planted in an RKN infested area, but shows no issues above ground.
The defining phenotypes of M.nigra are black buds when dormant, very juicy berries with high acid, poor performance outside of dry climates.
If pollinated with a male M.nigra they produce fertile seed, mine have a crunch to them, but never produce viable seed.
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This is an interesting discussion about mulberries in Florida. I bought one many years ago at Home Depot labeled as M. nigra and it is almost bulletproof. I had always thought that one of the defining features of M. nigra was that it didn't have seeds. I have never seen seeds in mine (although I have noticed tiny seeds in the Pakistani mulberry that I obtained from Pine Island Nursery many years later). I believe that Pakistani is a M. alba cultivar (which to my understanding does have seeds). I wonder if nematodes are the issue instead of humidity?
I understand Florida has a different type of RKN than we have in San Diego. My mulberry tree is planted in an RKN infested area, but shows no issues above ground.
The defining phenotypes of M.nigra are black buds when dormant, very juicy berries with high acid, poor performance outside of dry climates.
If pollinated with a male M.nigra they produce fertile seed, mine have a crunch to them, but never produce viable seed.
After researching your comments, I have discovered that my supposed nigra is probably an alba or a hybrid. And that the Pakistani mulberry is not an alba either but is a 4th species that I had never heard of --Morus macroura.
https://cultivar.guide/mulberry
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Its good to get things straightened out even if it took 25 years.
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This is an interesting discussion about mulberries in Florida. I bought one many years ago at Home Depot labeled as M. nigra and it is almost bulletproof. I had always thought that one of the defining features of M. nigra was that it didn't have seeds. I have never seen seeds in mine (although I have noticed tiny seeds in the Pakistani mulberry that I obtained from Pine Island Nursery many years later). I believe that Pakistani is a M. alba cultivar (which to my understanding does have seeds). I wonder if nematodes are the issue instead of humidity?
I understand Florida has a different type of RKN than we have in San Diego. My mulberry tree is planted in an RKN infested area, but shows no issues above ground.
The defining phenotypes of M.nigra are black buds when dormant, very juicy berries with high acid, poor performance outside of dry climates.
If pollinated with a male M.nigra they produce fertile seed, mine have a crunch to them, but never produce viable seed.
After researching your comments, I have discovered that my supposed nigra is probably an alba or a hybrid. And that the Pakistani mulberry is not an alba either but is a 4th species that I had never heard of --Morus macroura.
https://cultivar.guide/mulberry
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Its good to get things straightened out even if it took 25 years.
You're welcome. This kind of mislabeling is rampant in the nursery industry. I recommend you try the real nigra, they're really impressive.
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This is an interesting discussion about mulberries in Florida. I bought one many years ago at Home Depot labeled as M. nigra and it is almost bulletproof. I had always thought that one of the defining features of M. nigra was that it didn't have seeds. I have never seen seeds in mine (although I have noticed tiny seeds in the Pakistani mulberry that I obtained from Pine Island Nursery many years later). I believe that Pakistani is a M. alba cultivar (which to my understanding does have seeds). I wonder if nematodes are the issue instead of humidity?
I understand Florida has a different type of RKN than we have in San Diego. My mulberry tree is planted in an RKN infested area, but shows no issues above ground.
The defining phenotypes of M.nigra are black buds when dormant, very juicy berries with high acid, poor performance outside of dry climates.
If pollinated with a male M.nigra they produce fertile seed, mine have a crunch to them, but never produce viable seed.
After researching your comments, I have discovered that my supposed nigra is probably an alba or a hybrid. And that the Pakistani mulberry is not an alba either but is a 4th species that I had never heard of --Morus macroura.
https://cultivar.guide/mulberry
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Its good to get things straightened out even if it took 25 years.
You're welcome. This kind of mislabeling is rampant in the nursery industry. I recommend you try the real nigra, they're really impressive.
If you have one to sell my sister has offered a Hill Country spot for it 😁
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This is an interesting discussion about mulberries in Florida. I bought one many years ago at Home Depot labeled as M. nigra and it is almost bulletproof. I had always thought that one of the defining features of M. nigra was that it didn't have seeds. I have never seen seeds in mine (although I have noticed tiny seeds in the Pakistani mulberry that I obtained from Pine Island Nursery many years later). I believe that Pakistani is a M. alba cultivar (which to my understanding does have seeds). I wonder if nematodes are the issue instead of humidity?
I understand Florida has a different type of RKN than we have in San Diego. My mulberry tree is planted in an RKN infested area, but shows no issues above ground.
The defining phenotypes of M.nigra are black buds when dormant, very juicy berries with high acid, poor performance outside of dry climates.
If pollinated with a male M.nigra they produce fertile seed, mine have a crunch to them, but never produce viable seed.
After researching your comments, I have discovered that my supposed nigra is probably an alba or a hybrid. And that the Pakistani mulberry is not an alba either but is a 4th species that I had never heard of --Morus macroura.
https://cultivar.guide/mulberry
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Its good to get things straightened out even if it took 25 years.
You're welcome. This kind of mislabeling is rampant in the nursery industry. I recommend you try the real nigra, they're really impressive.
If you have one to sell my sister has offered a Hill Country spot for it 😁
I have tried on numerous occasions to root Persian cuttings without success. That said I know it grafts well to white mulberry as that's what mine is grafted to, and I have had success grafting it to alba.
If she starts now with some rootstock, I may be able to ship cuttings when the dormant season arrives.
Also Harvey Correia has many cultivars of nigra and does sell them if you let him know sometime in December.
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I've got some really tasty seedling white mulberry that I am growing that I could probably graft it on to. A neighbor literally had the tree grow up against her house and had no idea what it was. I wonder if that would work.
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but do overlook commonly planted ones like Cot-n-candy.
What's wrong please?